Was The Kentucky Election Stolen?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: underwerks

Not only the YouTube personality ... in this case.

We all have different opinions about things. I’m just continually amazed that these dipstick assertions get made when it’s sooo easy to discover the actual facts.

Nobody ever let a pesky thing like “facts” get in the way of accusing Democrats of something.

a reply to: Anathros

What’s your basis for believing that Trump hasn’t lost any voters in the last 3 years or so?

There are statistically more Democrats and Democrat-leaning Independents than ever.

Is it just a feeling?

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Anathros

I think the only people Donald Trump has are the people who would have voted for him anyway. In an age where his divisional politics have forced people who wouldn’t normally care about politics to become engaged, it isn’t enough to not lose any voters.

If you aren’t gaining voters to match the ones you’re creating on the other side, you’re losing.

It's all about the heartland and the electoral college. I'm confident Trump will carry the same states if not add to them in 2020. Keep in mind, it was the Democratic party that wanta to get rid of the EC and lower voting ages. That's desperation at it's finest.

a reply to: Anathros

The EC is based on population. The problem with it is that in all but three states, everyone’s votes in the “losing party” don’t count.

The EC is fine, more States just need to stop disenfranchising half their voters.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
You really can’t make this stuff up. Every damn time.

The reality of the situation is, of course, almost exactly opposite to how it was portrayed by the OP.

WYMT - CBS

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) - A Kentucky judge has ordered the State Board of Elections to return the names of about 175,000 voters to the regular voter rolls. Franklin County Circuit Judge Thomas Wingate issued the ruling Monday in a lawsuit filed last week by the Kentucky Democratic Party. The lawsuit contends placing those voters' names on an "inactive list" could infringe on their right to vote. News outlets report Wingate ordered the board to return the names of all Kentucky voters to one master list and place an asterisk by the names of voters whose addresses need confirmation.

So no, voters were not added to the voting rolls they were restored to the voting rolls because they had been removed unfairly.

There is zero evidence of any voter fraud or election fraud in the KY elections.

You’d never know that from the OP’s presentation, though.

And only one that wasn't even allowed to vote? Only one? I seriously doubt that.

originally posted by: Anathros

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Anathros

I think the only people Donald Trump has are the people who would have voted for him anyway. In an age where his divisional politics have forced people who wouldn’t normally care about politics to become engaged, it isn’t enough to not lose any voters.

If you aren’t gaining voters to match the ones you’re creating on the other side, you’re losing.

It's all about the heartland and the electoral college. I'm confident Trump will carry the same states if not add to them in 2020. Keep in mind, it was the Democratic party that wanta to get rid of the EC and lower voting ages. That's desperation at it's finest.

That doesn’t show desperation, it just shows they want to win more easily. America is majorly left leaning. And in a nation where everyones vote was equal they wouldn’t have to really try. A Republican President hasn’t won the popular vote in what, 30 years?

I don’t see Trump gaining anything really. I don’t expect anyone who has personally invested themselves into him as President to see things the way I do though.

a reply to: JHumm

Huh?

Why wouldn’t registered voters be allowed to vote?

originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: Gryphon66

Because, as has been shown time and time again in the last couple of years, you don't actually need evidence all you need is an allegation. An allegation has been made, they need to get on it.

Allegations eh? How about if I email the state voting commission, the attorney general and media and tell them I strongly suspect the GOP has hacked the ballot boxes. It's happened before...

nymag.com...

a reply to: olaru12

Virtually every instance of actual election fraud (voter fraud is so rare in the US as to be non-existent) happens with Republicans.

a reply to: olaru12

As long as your allegation can stand the test of scrutiny knock yourself out, as I said, I don't give a crap which party it is or how many. If it's any type of voter fraud it needs to be investigated and tried if found to have occurred. The minute stuff like this pops up, the less faith the people have in the voting process. Which says something in of itself, since a good portion of people who are capable of voting, do not in fact vote. I would imagine at least in some instances it's the belief that the system is rigged, not investigating allegations of voter fraud helps to reinforce that stigma.

a reply to: Anathros

Just as a hypothetical:

Hillary got 232 electoral votes in 2016.
Trump got 306.

IF hillary had won virginia and kentucky the count would be hillary 253 trump 285.
She still losses but she would have only needed say florida were trump only won by 1% and she would have won.
None of that happened but it shows that the dems really don't need much to swing the 2020 win.

Do you think trump has flipped any blue states to red?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Most people don't do research. Their just here looking for an argument.

a reply to: underwerks

So far this year I've convinced two none voters to vote in 2020.

I don't know how they will be voting but at least their getting involved.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Can you back that up?

I'm sure both sides play dirty.

and in this day and age an allegation is all that is needed to begin an investigation.

a reply to: Hypntick

I thought ats members were against this? I know I am.

But if you can't beat them join them, right?

originally posted by: andy06shake
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As to believe, well if everyone were to believe that the election process was corrupt, i don't imagine anyone would have voted in the first place.

So to hell with the evidence posted in the op...again you just want to "belief" in your "believe",, but sorry to say left-wingers have been caught using fraud time and again, and this seems to be the latest.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Just a dry run before 2020.

The left needs to figure out how to steal a national election now.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: olaru12

Virtually every instance of actual election fraud (voter fraud is so rare in the US as to be non-existent) happens with Republicans.

ROFLMAO...yeah,, and you actually thing the impeachment hoax is completely legit and fair... Your word doesn't mean crap in ATS,, unless to your other socialist/democrat friends whom don't care that your side has to resort to voter fraud to win.

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Anathros

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Anathros

I think the only people Donald Trump has are the people who would have voted for him anyway. In an age where his divisional politics have forced people who wouldn’t normally care about politics to become engaged, it isn’t enough to not lose any voters.

If you aren’t gaining voters to match the ones you’re creating on the other side, you’re losing.

It's all about the heartland and the electoral college. I'm confident Trump will carry the same states if not add to them in 2020. Keep in mind, it was the Democratic party that wanta to get rid of the EC and lower voting ages. That's desperation at it's finest.

That doesn’t show desperation, it just shows they want to win more easily. America is majorly left leaning. And in a nation where everyones vote was equal they wouldn’t have to really try. A Republican President hasn’t won the popular vote in what, 30 years?

I don’t see Trump gaining anything really. I don’t expect anyone who has personally invested themselves into him as President to see things the way I do though.

America is 30% Democrat, 29% Republican and the rest Independent, according to the 2018 elections.

America has never been majority left leaning.

Ever.

The only reason you would think that is the sky-screamers make more noise than normal folk do.

However.

With the way the Democrats have been acting since 2016 they have lost a ton of independents and scores of actual Democratic voters who are currently ashamed of their party.

Trump will win in 2020 with a bigger lead in both the electoral and popular votes than last time unless some economic disaster happens.

Take that to the bank.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Hey if it's good enough for one side, it's good enough for all sides. It's not going anywhere so may as well embrace it.