Its Looking Like Schiff - Vindman - Ciaramella Conspired to Impeach President Trump.

a reply to: angus1745

It is utterly mindbending that so many people think it's completely ok to stab our allies and NATO in the back so a foreign power can over run them and annex areas left completely undefended by this idiots blatant abuse of foreign policy.

As for Ukraine the Russians in Moscow knew about the regime change and coup in Kiev. There is nothing much that you or anyone of you beloved libealrs that could much expect maybe what? threaten, start a war with Russia over Eastern Ukraine and on Crimea.

Crimea is 99% Eastern Slaivc/Russian population. If they wanted independence from Ukraine on a referendum which you Americans got so scared because lets be honest you guys lost an easier access to Russia.

I am pretty sure however though if Crimea voted no on the referendum the Mainstream News Media would had mocked Russia either way.

Its not a surprise why you are still crying over Hillary Clinton so badly.
I am quite sure she would had saved the Jihadist Rebels no doubt about it.

My doctor says the popcorn is becoming serieus health risk...

This #show sure is entertaining.

Peace

Really, going after Vindman?

It could happen, but you better have some damn solid evidence to back it up.

Jumping to the conclusion solely based on an objection to him naming those he spoke to about the possible extortion is not solid evidence. And, lets not play games because anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that question was made only so they could find the whistleblower.

Smearing a soldier based on that is simply shameful to the highest degree.

a reply to: angus1745

Putin can get a foothold in the area, just like in Syria.

So you liberal would had preferred to fall like Libya did after Assad is taken out? Russia got the hold of Syria thanks to the Obama admin polices, not Trump.

What the Russians are doing in Syria they are basically there preventing Syria from falling like Libya. Libya is quite a hellhole now thanks to the Obama admin and interventionists on the left as well.

There were no moderate rebels. The Kurds in Syria would have being better if they gone with the Russian/Syrian agreement.

a reply to: angus1745

Source

I am sure a Hillary Clinton admin would had loved to repeat another Libya in Syria. While lying about bringing Democracy and Freedom.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Now you just you give a tug on 'em reins there now Gryph.
You're get'n yourself all worked up I mean look atcha?

How are you going to take this country back from Americans? You don’t agree with their politics so they’re your enemy?

How in the hell did you put all those words in my mouth
when all I said was this?

Seems more like we already lost this nation a long time ago.
Because what's happening now looks more like a move to take it
back. That's why these democrats are being so bold. They have the
power to do what they want. And the republicans have to tip toe
around Washington so some accident doesn't befall them.

IDK speculating!

If you can't see your mistake why should I be more specific and explain
it for you?

Ju take your meds?

a reply to: carsforkids

In rough order of your presentation:

Rooster Cogburn did it better, pilgrim. Or was that Foghorn Leghorn? Anyway.

Did I say I was quoting you? Nope. Did I cut the crap and deal with your actual claims? Yep.

... and the last is nonsense and ad hom, off-topic and baiting. So no.

ETA: What I can say is even if you disagree with the Democrats, they are still Americans, and further that even though I agree that the Ukrainian call was probably the weakest possible hook for impeachment, there is absolutely ZERO unconstitutional or illegal about the way the House is handling the process, and what I can say is that the endless claims that one side or the other is unAmerican or traitors or racists or socialists or whatever ... does nothing to help against our real enemies.

So, make jokes friend. Yuk yuk.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
The whistleblower’s information was reviewed by the IC independent counsel found to have merit and was passed on to the Intelligence Committee.

More than a dozen individuals have corroborated that testimony.

Only a zealot can continue to deny the mounting evidence against Trump and his Administration.

yes, and the phone call has also been released. Which took the wind out of the sail of the whistleblower. We know what was said, we don't need your cousin's brother's girlfriend's account.

a reply to: network dude

Nope, nothing has been taken out of the sails of the whistleblower, the impeachment procedings continue.

I really don’t understand the penchant to speak as if you are somehow representing some large group of people. Can’t you own an opinion without imagining that everyone is on your side? LOL.

The “no direct knowledge” defense died weeks ago, but ardent Trump supporters continue to whistle past that graveyard.

Trump admitted publicly he tried to get the Ukraine to help against Biden. Not unlike he asked for Russian help against Clinton openly in 2016.

Mr. Trump only plays 4D chess if the D stands for dumb. He’s his own worst enemy.

Seen this on Twitter earlier. Accurate?

So let's get this straight.

Republicans are arguing that all people willing to testify under oath are lying, and all people unwilling to testify under oath are telling the truth.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how FCUKING STUPID Republicans are.

Tweet

a reply to: RexKramerPRT

Don’t believe everything you read on Twitter.

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Especially from POTUS.

a reply to: Gryphon66

What's wrong with keep'n light? I meant no offense and apologize
if you were offended.

How's that?

Now can you lighten up a little and take notice of the last entry?

IDK as in I DON"T KNOW

Speculating

I didn't say anything about involving myself taking our
country back.

However I do see socialism as an enemy and would fight to the death
against socialism in this country. That's not what soldiers of the past
fought and died for! And I would not allow socialism to dishonor
their memory in anyway.

If socialism gains power we might as well fight to death! YEP!

You gotta problem with that fella? ( That was John Wayne )

a reply to: carsforkids

I did keep it light.

Were you offended? Sorry.

Then you lost your battle 70 years or so ago ... maybe more than a hundred. “Socialism” is a concept, an idea, an idealism even. You can’t fight it.

We’ve always had government control in the economy, and in the US, we’ve always had a decent balance between government intervention and market forces. It’s called a mixed economy. I’m afraid you’ve allowed someone to stuff your head with vague generalities and phantom menaces.

Soldiers of the past? They died for our Constitution and our way of life. Both of which are still intact.

This thread is about claiming that Americans called Democrats believe that the President of the United States may have committed acts which are worthy of impeachment. The Democrats control the House, and the House has the power of impeachment. There are MULTIPLE witnesses who have attested to Trump’s pressuring Uktraine so that piece of it is not even in question. I personally don’t think that’s impeachable, but there is plenty to impeach the man on, so ... does it matter?

Does it matter that the Senate is controlled by the other head of the two-headed snake and has already abrogated their Constitutional duty on more than one occasion?

Please, all due respect, save the overblown fake patriotism.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Smearing a soldier based on that is simply shameful to the highest degree.

But it's OK to smear the President?

We have evidence that the Democrats and Liberal lapdog CNN, had an agenda right from the start, and that was to smear Trump and start an "impeachment effort" against him.

Heck, even the whistleblower's attorney stated that a “Coup has started," only 10 days after Trump took office. He also stated that CNN would play a huge role in this. Yet, Liberals like you ignore this "damn solid evidence," which indicates that this push for impeachment was an orchestrated effort by both the Dems and MSM right from the start!

And you wonder why folks on the Right are highly skeptical on this impeachment effort by the Dems, when it's clearly evident, that the whistleblower is biased against Trump and worked with DNC operatives.

Depending on where you sit, there’s new evidence in what some see as an orchestrated campaign against President Trump. It is found in a social media tweet from 2017. In that January 2017 tweet, Mark Zaid, an attorney now representing an alleged “whistleblower” in the Trump impeachment effort, wrote a “coup has started” and “impeachment will follow ultimately.”

A few months later, still in 2017, Zaid tweeted more. “I predict @CNN will play a key role in @realDonaldTrump not finishing out his full term as president” and “We will get rid of him, and this country is strong enough to survive even him and his supporters.”

LINK

Zucker to Staffers: “Impeachment is the Story,” Ignore Other Stories

Nick Neville, CNN Media Coordinator: “Jeff Zucker…has a Personal Vendetta Against Trump,”

CNN Media Coordinator, Christian Sierra, Confesses CNN Prepares ‘Softball Interviews’ for Democrats Compared to Republicans, and Suggests “Anti-Trump Crusade” After 2016 Election

LINK

Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government.

www.realclearinvestigations.com...

a reply to: angus1745

I believe you are confused about which President steamrolled over the Ukraine ally and assisted Russia. Matter of fact, Trump even apologizes to President Zelensky on that July 25th phone call transcript regarding the fiasco of losing the Crimean Peninsula.

The Crimean Peninsula was annexed by the Russian Federation between February and March 2014, and since then has been administered as two Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the federal city of Sevastopol.

Hmm...2014? Why does that time period keeping popping up again and again. How did the previous admin assist their ally there?

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Your sources are even more questionable than CNN.

No one is “smearing” President Trump. He has made the bed with the dirty sheets himself. His time to lie in it.

There is no “coup” against Trump. The Whistleblowers complaint went through the legal process and was evaluated by the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community. What difference does it make what their attorney has said in the past. Is that to be the standard? Should we review all Rudy’s past comments? No, I think not.

The idea that Democratic Americans or Republican Americans are automatically untrustworthy is pure BS. It’s a part of the plan and there are so many like you who clearly have bought into the program hook, line, sinker, pole and reel.

If Ciaramella is the Whistleblower (the first one, rather, there have been several now along with a parade of witnesses with direct knowledge of events) bully for you guys. You’ve thwarted the intent of American law to protect Whistleblowers. His politics don’t keep him from telling the truth as has been coroborated by MULTIPLE WITNESSES and piles of evidence.

Real evidence, not opinion pieces and Veritas chop-job videos.

a reply to: CynConcepts

They used to call the content of your post “smoke and mirrors” ... now it’s just SSDD.

The West literally BEGGED Ukraine to clear up their messes so that we could help them against Russia. The West being the EU and the US if that’s not clear.

You wanted to go to war with Russia over the Crimea? What would your solution have been? I thought you guys were all about Trump placating Russia ... but you’re “agin” it when you claim Obama did it?

You guys like to have that ice cream cake and eat it too, doncha.

I’ll be glad to admit that Obama bent over for the Russians, I’ll leave it to you if that’s better or worse than Trump’s boot-licking.

a reply to: Oraculi

You forgot to add nunes to your list. A member of the house intelligence committee.

a reply to: Gryphon66

coroborated by MULTIPLE WITNESSES and piles of evidence.

Yeah, multiple BIASED witnesses with QUESTIONABLE evidence...one who has already been caught in a lie (Yovanovitch) and one who admitted his main "source" was the NY Times (Taylor).

Hey, believe whatever you want. The truth of the matter is, one of us will be eating crow down the road and I doubt it will be me.