NASA Footage, Seems Inteligent Activity On Space

originally posted by: flamengo
I went to the Scinews page, to check a supposed UFO, secureteam10 fans were talking of a possible UFO, the owner of the page then posted this as an answer, I didn't take it seriously at the beginning, but once I examined properly wow, this seems gold to me, what do you think?
Pay attention on the beginning of the video, the computer screen there.

www.youtube.com...

The moment you mentioned secureteam10 I ignored the rest of your post, Sorry. Anyone a fan of that channel needs to really take a step back ask them self, are they watching this as entertainment or watching it as if it's facts? Channel is a bunch of nonsense.

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: flamengo
I went to the Scinews page, to check a supposed UFO, secureteam10 fans were talking of a possible UFO, the owner of the page then posted this as an answer, I didn't take it seriously at the beginning, but once I examined properly wow, this seems gold to me, what do you think?
Pay attention on the beginning of the video, the computer screen there.

www.youtube.com...

The moment you mentioned secureteam10 I ignored the rest of your post, Sorry. Anyone a fan of that channel needs to really take a step back ask them self, are they watching this as entertainment or watching it as if it's facts? Channel is a bunch of nonsense.

Sorry sir, but that is just plain balls, that is just silly elitism, he got a lot of fresh material there, if you are just looking at big names for information that does not really qualify you as a great researcher, I don't care if I cringe with him once in a while, that is a great source for videos and news, not for analyses, I am happy with my own analyses, but thank you for your thoughts all the same.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: flamengo
So there like UFOs and stuff.

LOL, that is the silly BS from the 60's, let's go.

They came all the way here from planet whatchumacallit. All those hundreads to thousands of years of travel time, if they were going light speed. If not then they traveled millions of years. To what!

How do you bloody know how they travel? Or do they travel that far? I don't think so, by their constant presence here, they may be very present, and here may be a very easy place of access to them.

To what! Buzz around and fly in random around a NASA space satellite or whatever it was they were using to film that other satelite, and there crappy space camera?

I can think of tons of reasons, but your point does not bear a lot of nuance or intelligence, I don't care about you hypotheses, I care what I can see on the camera, and if you think on assumptions instead of data you are unfit for purpose, unfit for a proper debate.

You do realize that if that camera is filming it all, and yes that is a crappy video. But you know what else it is? Its not an infrared camera. Which means there is light or reflection of light coming from somewhere or else you would see nothing as cameras dont work in pitch darkness or low light.
Which also means that there not self illuminated as the thing there filming is lighted up as well from something as well, its why its so bright and shiny in the vid.

What is your point here? We could discuss that, but that is not even necessary, as this a ultimately retarded point, the camera was good enough to film the patterns of the objects, get a proper point instead of straw man. FFS.

But anyways, you did not answer my question. Which ones are the aliens or UFOs, the squiggly lines? Or the donuts? Or you saying there both UFOs, who just like to zig zag around at random so that the oh so advanced people of earth can marvel at it all for how ever long it lasts.

Hold your horses there, I didn't say they came from Antares or Zeta Reticulae, I just said they are anomalous, seems to be an intelligence at play here, and not part of our civilization. I also claim that they have the same pattern as a lot of the Martyn Stubbs captured footage. In some of these footage there are 3 types of apparitions interacting at the same time. This fits precisely the pattern.

All half a minute of it, it seems at the beginning of that vid you linked. Such a long way to go for there half a minute of fame.

Or what you saying its all just ice particles and space junk lighted up for that half a minute? What the funk exactly you trying to say? What you expect people to read your mind. Out with it. Is it UFOs or space junk or what? Or is that to hard for you to do?

These is not ice particles brah, unless you have a cognitive issue, these things are manouvering, and fly in a pattern, check the footage that Jim showed on the debris, flying random, if you cannot differentiate, then you do have problems in recognizing patterns. That is not my issue.

Do you need help with it.

My theory is that its just another crappy video, one on a long list of crappy videos that are out there. And you apparently think crappy videos constitute proof of UFOs and aliens.

Is that about right?

You have all the right to have your theories, I don't care, does not make a difference to me you want to spin it right or left, to me it is quite clear, but thanks for your thoughts, it is the old adaggio of skeptics, who cannot see stuff in front of them, your thoughts cannot convince me or anyone who can actually judge for themselves, what a pattern of flight actually is.

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: flamengo
He recanted, I wonder why...

'Recanted' means he once claimed it was a real UFO. Please show me where, or we all can just assume that, like in other cases on this thread, you just made stuff up out of your imagination.

Here are McDivitt's views, how have they changed?

www.jamesoberg.com...

Sorry Jim I didn't get back to you, but the MIB was chasing me around London I had to hide myself.
Whatever you say sir, whatever yoy say.

I was hoping with your passionate energy you would spot something in my reports requiring modification or replacement. I can be patient. Watch the skies!

originally posted by: flamengo

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: flamengo
He recanted, I wonder why...

'Recanted' means he once claimed it was a real UFO. Please show me where, or we all can just assume that, like in other cases on this thread, you just made stuff up out of your imagination.

Here are McDivitt's views, how have they changed?

www.jamesoberg.com...

Sorry Jim I didn't get back to you, but the MIB was chasing me around London I had to hide myself.
Whatever you say sir, whatever yoy say.

I really hope that you are joking about that........please say you are?

originally posted by: oldcarpy

originally posted by: flamengo

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: flamengo
He recanted, I wonder why...

'Recanted' means he once claimed it was a real UFO. Please show me where, or we all can just assume that, like in other cases on this thread, you just made stuff up out of your imagination.

Here are McDivitt's views, how have they changed?

www.jamesoberg.com...

Sorry Jim I didn't get back to you, but the MIB was chasing me around London I had to hide myself.
Whatever you say sir, whatever yoy say.

I really hope that you are joking about that........please say you are?

I forgot to say that the Pleiadians made a contact, Samjaze, that beautiful blonde has appeared, she was delightful.

a reply to: flamengo

Yeah, right.
Of course she did.
Good grief.
Dream on.

Re Meier, Semjase, and astronaut UFO videos...

Gordon Cooper didn't hide any NASA space secrets, and on this Russian interview about 60 min in, he describes how he looked over every inch of the Apollo film and saw no sign of any alien activity. But he ALSO insisted he thought Billy Meier's photos and reports were 100% authentic [also on this video].

www.youtube.com...
or
youtu.be...

originally posted by: JimOberg

Gordon Cooper... ALSO insisted he thought Billy Meier's photos and reports were 100% authentic.

I assume even Gordy drew a line in the sand when it came to...

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

No, there was nothing from Meier that he objected to. And he also was convinced Dan Fry had really ridden into space and back inside a UFO in the 1950s. Fry told Cooper that he had arranged for his UFO buddies to take him up too and maybe fly around the moon and back. Cooper packed a travel bag and his cameras and sat by the phone waiting for a call about where to drive for the pickup, but then Fry told him there was a political dispute on the home planet and they were ordered NOT to give him the ride. Cooper described this matter-of-fact in his autobiography.

Sad.

a reply to: flamengo

I would say that its inconclusive at best on all parts.

But they if you choose and want to see things in a vid that really show not that much at all. You are free to do so.

originally posted by: flamengo

originally posted by: oldcarpy

originally posted by: flamengo

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: flamengo
He recanted, I wonder why...

'Recanted' means he once claimed it was a real UFO. Please show me where, or we all can just assume that, like in other cases on this thread, you just made stuff up out of your imagination.

Here are McDivitt's views, how have they changed?

www.jamesoberg.com...

Sorry Jim I didn't get back to you, but the MIB was chasing me around London I had to hide myself.
Whatever you say sir, whatever yoy say.

I really hope that you are joking about that........please say you are?

I forgot to say that the Pleiadians made a contact, Samjaze, that beautiful blonde has appeared, she was delightful.

So, please do tell.
Are you really being serious or not?

a reply to: oldcarpy

Carpy, he is VERY serious about dodging and evading questions. He self-identifies as a 'spaceflight expert' but won't give an inch when challenged for factual proof of claims he typed only a few hours before....

To the degree that this subject, which we all take delight in, has a down side, it seems to me to encourage true-believers to use their beliefs as proof they are smarter and more courageous than ordinary people. They must get laughed at a lot by family, friends, co-workers, whatever, but that seems to only encourage them in their smugness, and stiffen their resistance to any contrary evidence.

originally posted by: JimOberg
... but then Fry told him there was a political dispute on the home planet and they were ordered NOT to give him the ride. Cooper described this matter-of-fact in his autobiography.

Sad.

Ironically, such bizarre beliefs could easily lead some folks to declare that Cooper's inspection of the entire Apollo film was therefore unreliable and he may have missed signs of any alien activity after all!


By the way, Flamengo, the "beautiful blonde Samjaze" is actually a brunette if Meier's photo is somehow to be believed by anybody.

On the other hand, CIA scientist Ron Pandolfi claims he's married to an alien wife, so perhaps he's in agreement with you...

Pandolfi, through his closest operative, also wanted Kiviat to tell the incredibly bizarre story of how his Pakistani wife allegedly from Kashmir, purportedly arrived on Earth via a “inter-dimensional portal,” and other tall tales which would be hard for even Hollywood to make up.

a reply to: flamengo

My point is clear, the objects are self propulsed, they are not carried out or reacting to external forces. Also they are self illuminated, if you don't see that, then too bad, life carries on.

Wow some wild claims there yet your logic shows you having the level intelligence which you admit is no where near to make such claims.

They may seem like they are self propelled to you and they may seem that they are not reacting to outside forces and may seem that they are self illuminated.

Questions have been posed to make you think and your replies or ignoring the questions speaks volumes.


Wow, just read the rest if the thread and its absolutely amazing watching you dodge the simplest of questions over and over and reply like a child when asked to show what you claim wrong.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: JimOberg
... but then Fry told him there was a political dispute on the home planet and they were ordered NOT to give him the ride. Cooper described this matter-of-fact in his autobiography.

Sad.

By the way, Flamengo, the "beautiful blonde Samjaze" is actually a brunette if Meier's photo is somehow to be believed by anybody.

My bad...

originally posted by: JimOberg
Re Meier, Semjase, and astronaut UFO videos...

Gordon Cooper didn't hide any NASA space secrets, and on this Russian interview about 60 min in, he describes how he looked over every inch of the Apollo film and saw no sign of any alien activity. But he ALSO insisted he thought Billy Meier's photos and reports were 100% authentic [also on this video].

www.youtube.com...
or
youtu.be...

He did on his early mission if I am not wrong, but you know this details way better than me, as you lived this stuff, still what he reported on our skies is incredibly interesting.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: flamengo

My point is clear, the objects are self propulsed, they are not carried out or reacting to external forces. Also they are self illuminated, if you don't see that, then too bad, life carries on.

Wow some wild claims there yet your logic shows you having the level intelligence which you admit is no where near to make such claims.

They may seem like they are self propelled to you and they may seem that they are not reacting to outside forces and may seem that they are self illuminated.

Questions have been posed to make you think and your replies or ignoring the questions speaks volumes.


Wow, just read the rest if the thread and its absolutely amazing watching you dodge the simplest of questions over and over and reply like a child when asked to show what you claim wrong.

There is no dodging questions, it is self evident, if you don't judge yourself capable of analysing flight patterns you done. About your opinion on the thread, that is your opinion.
Skeptics have this single line that they repeat over and over again, the camera is not perfect, you are not able to judge what is in front of you, the lack of arguments, and the repetition of failed ones, and the intention to intimidate anyone who would resist this BS, is the only thing who speaks volumes over here. I didn't ask for the validation of anyone in regarding to this video, you offer it if you want to, it wasn't requested. To me is quite clear what it is depicting. IF you do have an issue, then that is yoru issue, deal with it, I don't care for your mourning. Regarding to intellectual capadcity, you first have to show any, for me to start in thinking in respecting you, for now you are not even worth of a reply.

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: flamengo

I would say that its inconclusive at best on all parts.

But they if you choose and want to see things in a vid that really show not that much at all. You are free to do so.

That is fair enough.