What the Liberals believe about impeachment.

Liberals on what they believe about Trump Proves they blindly follow and believe whatever the MSM outlets tell them. This quote is a quote by a liberal and a response to a comment i made on YT.

So according to the Liberals they still believe Trump commuted obstruction of justice by coercing a foreign government into investigating a political rival in this case Joe Biden.

But when you ask the liberals if Trump committed a crime? they have no say in that question. They still believe that Trump threaten a whistle blower.

violation of Emoluments clause, coercing a foreign government into investigating a political rival in exchange for military aid, obstruction of justice, using a personal lawyer for interfering in foreign affairs, threatening a whistle blower.....and so on so forth

I have to say if anything American liberals are insane if they believe that is enough evidence for an actual impeachment. I am surprised they are running away from the Russian collision nonsense.

But But But ..... 😎


Document reveals Ukraine had already reopened probe of Hunter Biden-linked firm months before Trump phone call

A newly unearthed document shows that Ukrainian officials had opened a new probe into the firm linked to Hunter Biden months before President Trump's phone call with that country's leader, Fox News contributor John Solomon reported late Tuesday.

Solomon said Tuesday on "Hannity" that the U.S. government knew Ukraine was planning to look again into activities at Burisma Holdings, an energy company that employed then-Vice President Joe Biden's son as a member of its board of directors, early this year. The report is noteworthy because President Trump has been accused by Democrats of threatening in July to withhold foreign aid to Ukraine unless its new president pursued an investigation into the company and the younger Biden's role there.


"The U.S. government had open-source intelligence and was aware as early as February of 2019 that the Ukrainian government was planning to reopen the Burisma investigation," he claimed. "This is long before the president ever imagined having a call with President Zelensky," he added, noting Petro Poroshenko was still Ukraine's president at that time.

a reply to: ChefFox

Sad thing is, when their next guy(gal) is in office, they'll complain about each and every one of the precedents they've been setting these last three years when they are deployed against them.

One can really start to understand how warring factions can hold grudges for generations.

They wanted someone who was impeached back in the WH. Think about that one for a minute.

a reply to: ChefFox

Based on my understanding, it doesn't matter to the Dems if he committed a crime or not. Now they've switched the narrative to "abuse of power", leaving the door wide open for what constitutes as abuse. What's Schiff going to do when IG reports are released showing that Obama and his entire senior administration abused their power?

Its all so flimsy, if this is the new precedent every time a President picks up the phone they are at the risk of setting off impeachment proceedings. LOL if this is the gold standard wonder how many times it's been crossed throughout our history. LOl Id bet LBJ crossed it every month during his administration any wartime President likely did.

a reply to: ChefFox

But what a fool believes he sees
No wise man has the power To reason away
What seems to be Is always better than nothing
And nothing at all Keeps sending him
the Doobie Brothers

It’s all a bunch of BullSchiff !

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
They wanted someone who was impeached back in the WH. Think about that one for a minute.

Who was that?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
They wanted someone who was impeached back in the WH. Think about that one for a minute.

Who was that?

Bill. He would have been the First Man and in charge of some Government functions. Michelle had the school lunch program. Go look at the fraud associated with that gem. Nobody did anything about it but I do believe one of her head chefs did go to jail for embezeling money for the program.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
He would have been the First Man and in charge of some Government functions.

Doubtful.

originally posted by: Fallingdown
It’s all a bunch of BullSchiff !

Just like the Russian Collision nonsense yup.

a reply to: ChefFox

I am a liberal Democrat and socialist. I get your point the media is full of spin-meisters. However, sometimes you have documentary evidence coming directly from witnesses:

The evidence:

Sullivan: "Soliciting investigations into a domestic political opponent, I don't think that would be in accord with our values"

A week later, Taylor was even more concerned, texting Sondland: "As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

Vindman: "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine"

Vindman: "I am a patriot, and it is my sacred duty and honor to advance and defend OUR country, irrespective of party or politics"

I don't think you can claim these quotes are being spun by a so called "liberal" media. These are witness statements of what actually happened from their perspective. These quotes seem to me to carry a little more weight than some talking head's spin analysis.

I have been saying for years that every single elected government official should be limited to one term and that's it. They're done. No more elections for them. Would stop so much of this BS. Oh the world would still suck and they'd still own us and elections would still be fake bread and circuses shenanigans but at least they'd have to change the script a bit.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: ChefFox

I am a liberal Democrat and socialist. I get your point the media is full of spin-meisters. However, sometimes you have documentary evidence coming directly from witnesses:

The evidence:

Sullivan: "Soliciting investigations into a domestic political opponent, I don't think that would be in accord with our values"

A week later, Taylor was even more concerned, texting Sondland: "As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

Vindman: "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine"

Vindman: "I am a patriot, and it is my sacred duty and honor to advance and defend OUR country, irrespective of party or politics"

I don't think you can claim these quotes are being spun by a so called "liberal" media. These are witness statements of what actually happened from their perspective. These quotes seem to me to carry a little more weight than some talking head's spin analysis.

Is this the fat Soldier popping out of his uniform. If he was in my unit the CO would have given him 3 months to get in shape. He a terd head. He should be ashamed wearing that uniform being that obese.

His highest award is a Purple Heart. I have one of those. Not my highest award though. This guy has been in the military forever and his highest award is a Purple Heart, the one award no Soldier wants. He should have awards higher than that being a COL and working on all these high profile jobs. That right there says a lot about him.

a reply to: dfnj2015

apparently they were fired for leaking and are just getting revenge.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: ChefFox

I am a liberal Democrat and socialist. I get your point the media is full of spin-meisters. However, sometimes you have documentary evidence coming directly from witnesses:

The evidence:

Sullivan: "Soliciting investigations into a domestic political opponent, I don't think that would be in accord with our values"

A week later, Taylor was even more concerned, texting Sondland: "As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

Vindman: "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine"

Vindman: "I am a patriot, and it is my sacred duty and honor to advance and defend OUR country, irrespective of party or politics"

I don't think you can claim these quotes are being spun by a so called "liberal" media. These are witness statements of what actually happened from their perspective. These quotes seem to me to carry a little more weight than some talking head's spin analysis.

Is this the fat Soldier popping out of his uniform. If he was in my unit the CO would have given him 3 months to get in shape. He a terd head. He should be ashamed wearing that uniform being that obese.

His highest award is a Purple Heart. I have one of those. Not my highest award though. This guy has been in the military forever and his highest award is a Purple Heart, the one award no Soldier wants. He should have awards higher than that being a COL and working on all these high profile jobs. That right there says a lot about him.

I dunno man, this whole diatribe really sounds like you're bending over backwards projecting.......

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: ChefFox

I am a liberal Democrat and socialist. I get your point the media is full of spin-meisters. However, sometimes you have documentary evidence coming directly from witnesses:

The evidence:

Sullivan: "Soliciting investigations into a domestic political opponent, I don't think that would be in accord with our values"

A week later, Taylor was even more concerned, texting Sondland: "As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

Vindman: "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine"

Vindman: "I am a patriot, and it is my sacred duty and honor to advance and defend OUR country, irrespective of party or politics"

I don't think you can claim these quotes are being spun by a so called "liberal" media. These are witness statements of what actually happened from their perspective. These quotes seem to me to carry a little more weight than some talking head's spin analysis.

Lot's of "thinking" going on in this post and from the Democrats. But not alot of legitimate evidence of anything other than the same old manufactured outrage we have been dealing with for 4 years now...

I do give Democrats credit though for sticking to their original story no matter how many times it's discredited.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: ChefFox

I am a liberal Democrat and socialist. I get your point the media is full of spin-meisters. However, sometimes you have documentary evidence coming directly from witnesses:

The evidence:

Sullivan: "Soliciting investigations into a domestic political opponent, I don't think that would be in accord with our values"

A week later, Taylor was even more concerned, texting Sondland: "As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."

Vindman: "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine"

Vindman: "I am a patriot, and it is my sacred duty and honor to advance and defend OUR country, irrespective of party or politics"

I don't think you can claim these quotes are being spun by a so called "liberal" media. These are witness statements of what actually happened from their perspective. These quotes seem to me to carry a little more weight than some talking head's spin analysis.

Is this the fat Soldier popping out of his uniform. If he was in my unit the CO would have given him 3 months to get in shape. He a terd head. He should be ashamed wearing that uniform being that obese.

His highest award is a Purple Heart. I have one of those. Not my highest award though. This guy has been in the military forever and his highest award is a Purple Heart, the one award no Soldier wants. He should have awards higher than that being a COL and working on all these high profile jobs. That right there says a lot about him.

Character assassination of a witness is a sure sign of weakness by the Republicans. Somebody's physical weight has no bearing on the weight of someone's testimony.

To me it seems like they are trying to get Trump out before they themselves get investigated. Looks like most politicians are crooked (gasp i know) and are really afraid of Trump exposing them.
Both sides.
Trump is not one of "them" so they were using him but now that he's run afoul of all of them, dissing the military industrial complex, the UN, NATO et al and attempting to pull us out of the middle east he's pissed off everybody.