Epstein's Island filmed by We Are Change

originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: DrumsRfun

Good video.. Of course, we always want more, but those two guys really risked quite a bit with what they did (considering the circumstances, people in involved)... I do find one comment made in the clip quite interesting, which was when he mentioned of another possible "sex island" where questionable things are happening, similar to Little St. James... One has to wonder if its similar people involved, or just a whole other group of sick individuals who prey on children.... Either way, we are never going to learn the truth of this horrible story. Its being buried as we discuss this.. Too many high level people involved..

Think about that for a second... Everyone involved is either a (billion)millionaire or a politician we elected. There HAS to be something we can do.

a reply to: jhn7537

Its being buried as we discuss this.

I have to agree.
At first, I read minimal news and stayed away from ats...I would just skim to see what the rest of the world was seeing and losing their minds about that day.

This is the only thread that I have commented on the Epstein thing and I have noticed that while I do skim news sites, there is less and less mention of all of this and it seems to be quietly going away.

Maybe Prince Andrew got his wish?

a reply to: DrumsRfun



While I don't subscribe to the suggestion everything is manufactured to bury the case... It sure does help that there are stories people are eager to consume above the Epstein one.

Sometimes they don't always pick the cards they get, but they can certainly play them to their advantage.

a reply to: DrumsRfun

there have been several previous threads // posts that made various assanine claims about what could be " seen " an the island - all based on poor quality long range shots .

these claims include - but not limited to :

underground dungeons // entrances // graves // secret underwater " stuff " etc etc etc

does this tresspass footage validate any of the prior claimis made ?

a reply to: CriticalStinker

eager to consume

Those 3 words hold more power than we realize sometimes.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: Lagomorphe
One day that bastard WILL suffer...

I hope my hands are involved.

If any Mod deletes my above post then ATS is over for me.

I have screen shot this thread and posts.

Lags

Unless Epstein is a member of ATS, I think you're in the clear.

I don't think it's his cup of tea though (pun intended from my earlier meme)... He strikes me more of an imageboard kinda guy.

Just wait, one day all the imageboard porno pedos will change their ways forever...
when some smart guy invents scratch-n-sniff (like perfume ads in fashionista mags) virtual reality web pages!

Great memes BTW

ganjoa

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
a reply to: CriticalStinker

eager to consume

Those 3 words hold more power than we realize sometimes.

I'm a firm believer in you can't fix problems without addressing the roots.

It's easy to blame government and the entertainment reality media... But when half the people don't vote, and the one's that do take the entertainment at face value, than we need to admit we have a problem and vote with our ballots, dollars, and participation to change the environment that shapes our society. We've become addicted to shallow drama and the dopamine it slams our receptors with while ignoring cancers of our institutions. We've become so entitled, we'd rather find anyone to blame but ourselves.

While I haven't lost hope, I do unfortunately think we'll have to fall further before we get back on our feet.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

does this tresspass footage validate any of the prior claimis made ?

Not a clue...I haven't read a single Epstein thread on ats throughout the whole ordeal so after viewing the videos, you (or someone else) might be able to tell me?

a reply to: DrumsRfun

i learned that the whole huge door of the temple is fake and totally painted on

i also learned about the ATC whistleblower who saw numerous young girls (10-12 yr old) going from pedosteins plane to his chopper then to the island?
question is how many came back?

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
a reply to: ignorant_ape

does this tresspass footage validate any of the prior claimis made ?

Not a clue...I haven't read a single Epstein thread on ats throughout the whole ordeal so after viewing the videos, you (or someone else) might be able to tell me?

I kind of saved a list of interesting info I found on the subject.... it's a good few hours of reading, but most of it is not mainstream.

I originally only put this in messages directly to people who wanted to talk about it as the landscape was pretty polarized when this issue was talked about. Things have calmed down so I'll post what I found. I included caveat from each link I found.

Here's some of what I stumbled on to... I don't subscribe to all or even most of it... But I found it all interesting. I don't have an angle other than trying to find the truth, I don't "wish" it turns out one way or the other besides anyone guilty must answer.

Connections between Robert Maxwell (Epsteins right hand girl's dad) and intelligence agencies. Deseret

Robert Maxwell was also connected with Khashoggi (has flirted with being the richest man in the world, also uncle to Jamal Khshoggi) Israel gave software to Saudi Arabia to help them spy on Jamal before his murder. Wiki

NYT: Isreal helped Saudi Arabia with spyware to get Khashoggi

If you look, Adnan helped with Iran Contra and himself has been speculated by good sources to be working for intelligence services.

Now for the "take with a deer block of salt" This one clearly tries to implicate Trump, and a lot of people on reddit always start research with the optics of trying to do just that. If you can realize that's their angle, there still seems to be a good amount of research starting points her Reddit

The next one is from 4chan, which should go without saying, you have to weed through a lot of hay to find a needle... That said, understand their optics are trying to connect everything to Mossad, so that's their angle. While I certainly see that as a possibitly, it shouldn't be an objective to try and make that case. https:///KAu4rFfa

If the last link at the very bottom doesn't work, just put in pastbin dot com before the /KAu4rFfa

The bottom link probably has the most to dig through, I'm working on verifying a lot of it... it's going to take forever. But as you'll see, there is so much that it really reaches into far expanses, even decades past.

Keep in mind, I never really came to a final conclusion. I found a lot of interesting dots I never could connect. Nothing on it's own should be the end all be all, and all appear to have an objective/agenda. It's just a compiled list of information I stumbled across that dug deeper than the standard narrative.... A lot of it is a lot of reading and wading through fat.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Right, B&E. But what I meant was, sneak in at night, get in and get out with footage they wanted with IR lighted video, Maybe hide out during the day, then do it again.

To me it seemed too much of “look at us” with no real content of where the supposed tunnels and secret entrances are.

a reply to: DrumsRfun

the answer is - no not even close - did not even attempt any sort of actuall investigation - just praced about - like a pack of you-tube goons

the only revalation i got - was the utter lack of any security - not because " there is something to hide " , but the epstien estate owns the island - freehold - thus a valuable real estate asset . give the ease with which it can be trespassed

i would espect security to prevent .....................

a reply to: DrumsRfun
Super weird.

Those gargoyles are a bit disturbing, given the context of the conspiracy.

And the temple... how strange the way it is constructed. I would have liked to have seen inside it.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

I will defend ‘We Are Change” presenter Luke Rudkowski. He’s a genuine investigative journalist and generally remains pretty factual.

Not a typical Tuber.

The

originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: DrumsRfun

Good video.. Of course, we always want more, but those two guys really risked quite a bit with what they did (considering the circumstances, people in involved)... I do find one comment made in the clip quite interesting, which was when he mentioned of another possible "sex island" where questionable things are happening, similar to Little St. James... One has to wonder if its similar people involved, or just a whole other group of sick individuals who prey on children.... Either way, we are never going to learn the truth of this horrible story. Its being buried as we discuss this.. Too many high level people involved..

Nothing to see here.....

a reply to: and14263

i has only watched the 2 vids relevant to this thread - one isnt even his - but " we are change " feature in the 2nd

and all i see is goons prancing around - with zero actual purpose .

but hey - i is open minded - so please cite the best [ in your opinion ] that will convince me to recant my opinion on these idiots

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Just generally anything on the We Are Change YouTube channel. Normally presented as a news report on current events.

a reply to: DrumsRfun

no, they made a video of themselves talking about what they think with a couple snips of footage cut in between.

typical from we are change... nobody gives a # what you have to say luke just put the damn footage up. Alex Jones learned you those tricks well: gotta keep the audience hooked waiting for ACTUAL content while he flaps his jaw until its too late and the video is over.

that drone dude was good stuff. no b/s banter, just raw footage. We are change is too busy promoting themselves. the vid is like 80% his face 10% island features...