Have You Visited The 9/11 Memorial Site ?

originally posted by: JPtruther
Please educate an ignorant Brit here... Why do some call it the ‘surrender tower’ ??

If a bunch of jackwads flew a plane into Big Ben and knocked it down would you rebuild it or put something else there?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JPtruther
Please educate an ignorant Brit here... Why do some call it the ‘surrender tower’ ??

If a bunch of jackwads flew a plane into Big Ben and knocked it down would you rebuild it or put something else there?

Why not put something bigger and better as a giant "FU"?

If I were a Brit, and big ben got destroyed... id build a bigger bad ass version of big ben that displayed not only the time in lasers over saudi, but a giant middle finger too.

Yes it is a sad place, but also inspiring for the individual acts of heroism shown that day.

The Murrah Building Memorial IN OKC is also sobering.

However, we as humans I think need constant reminders of what can happen and strive to avoid the mistakes of the past

originally posted by: EternalSolace
Why not put something bigger and better as a giant "FU"?

Well, they didn't do that either, there are residential buildings in Manhattan with higher occupied floors than that stupid Surrender Tower.

a reply to: JPtruther

Also known as the vertical bunker.

First 10 stories have no windows stairways are lined with 2 1/2 ft high strength concrete to prevent anything from
blocking the stairs in case of emergency WTC had only 5/8 inch sheet rock which was dislodged and blocked stairways

Stairways are much wider than WTC = nothing is going to penetrate that building

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: EternalSolace
Why not put something bigger and better as a giant "FU"?

Well, they didn't do that either, there are residential buildings in Manhattan with higher occupied floors than that stupid Surrender Tower.

True, the current tower really isn't remarkable. But I digress... I wasn't in charge of what to put there. Liberal New York was...

a reply to: EternalSolace

The Mayor(s) at that time were both Republicans, it had nothing to do with party politics and more about what was done with 'sacred ground'.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: EternalSolace

The Mayor(s) at that time were both Republicans, it had nothing to do with party politics and more about what was done with 'sacred ground'.

Pretty sure the current mayers when 9/11 happened weren't focused on rebuilding as much as they were with victim recovery and identification. Let alone first response identification, response, and recognition.

a reply to: EternalSolace

Yeah, they were, there was a contest held in 2002 to come up with a design. The LMDC was talking about rebuilding almost immediately and so were Mayors Giuliani and Bloomberg.

Is Solomon Brothers brokerage still there?
Was spelt Solamon ? last I checked which was so weird in itself
Definitely not going there, the monuments remind of bsphomet sculptures in pix

a reply to: Abadon

There hasn't been a Salomon Brothers since the 1980's. It was Salomon Inc and then eventually acquired by Citigroup in the 2000's and the name dropped in 2003 or so.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: EternalSolace

Yeah, they were, there was a contest held in 2002 to come up with a design. The LMDC was talking about rebuilding almost immediately and so were Mayors Giuliani and Bloomberg.

Funny how an instant call to rebuild is subsequently viewed as weakness.

a reply to: EternalSolace

When you don't replace what was there then to me it is weakness.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: EternalSolace

When you don't replace what was there then to me it is weakness.

I guess by inference taking the time to decide is just as weak.

a reply to: EternalSolace

In this it would be, there's shouldn't have been any thought of what went there; the exact same thing. Maybe one story taller as an FU.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

If a bunch of jackwads flew a plane into Big Ben and knocked it down would you rebuild it or put something else there?

Game set match...

Yes and it was a very moving experience.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

yes

Never have, but sure hope to some day.
First trees surrounding the pool is the actual perimeter for the buildings? Is this correct?

Just something i always post when appropriate.

Children Of Tomorrow

Children of tomorrow
I apologize to you
On behalf of those in my time
For the things we didn't do
We didn't stop the tyrants
So your fate could be prevented
We watched them steal our freedom
By our silence we consented
We didn't choose to circumvent
The doom you've not escaped
While the Bill of Rights was murdered
And the Constitution raped
Some of us were lazy
Others too afraid
To think about our children
The ones we have betrayed
I guess we were too busy
To be concerned or care
To try to ease the burden
Of the chains we made you wear
We could have been good shepherds
When the wolf got in the fold
But we watched the flame of freedom die instead
And left you cold

I'm sorry we were timid
My selfish generation
We left you but a remnant
Of a free and prosperous nation
I'm sorry for our actions
Like cowards we behaved
We could have left you freedom
Instead you are enslaved
Children of tomorrow
Descendants of our land
I'm sorry we allowed this
The fate you now with stand

- Anonymous