Kurds agree to pull back . Hopefully peace will break out .

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Fallingdown

Pelosi going there might jack the whole arrangement up.

She doesn't want peace there! She'd love nothing more than to have the Turks slaughter the Kurds, the Kurds she professes to love so much. Why? Because it looks worse for Trump. ....snipped.....

Didn't know Pelosi was going there FCD. Is that fair dinkum?

Is there a write up or link I can look for? If so, I ask, 'what the hell could she do over there?'

Kind regards,

bally

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Fallingdown

Pelosi going there might jack the whole arrangement up.

She doesn't want peace there! She'd love nothing more than to have the Turks slaughter the Kurds, the Kurds she professes to love so much. Why? Because it looks worse for Trump. ....snipped....

That's probably why she wanted to go in the first place.

Let's just hope that they see through her Bullsh!t and kick her out.

a reply to: bally001

"Dinkum"??

Not familiar with that term, but it doesn't sound good.

As for the link, here you go...

Link

Dammit!

**pointing in the mirror**

You better straighten up and fly right, Boy, or else you're gonna' get yourself a great big fat ban-hammer upside the head!

No more smart-ass remarks from you, you hear me?????

Now go to your room!!!!

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

They removed your post.

But I’d like to give you an answer.

Try it again a little nicer I guess ? 😁

a reply to: Fallingdown

My smart-alec remark was removed, but the rest of my post remains in other people's quotes, albeit **snipped**. The snipped part wasn't part of a material element of the post. It was just a poor attempt at satire and humor.

a reply to: dlbott

First, I appreciate your service.

However, we should not be in the business of taking sides in these matters. It is not our war to fight. Should we keep HUMINT alive and well in the Middle East, yes, because that is where we f'd up in 01. Many have a short memory but we fought the Soviets in Afghanistan by helping the Taliban which funded offshoots that became Al Qeada and others. Same thing here. Kurds, PKK, Shia,Sunni, terrorist and national. The US created this mess before Trump came into office. To me he called the bluff of the bully and the MSM went nuts with it. Even that tool Romney is talking about how it is a dark stain for Americans. The DARK STAIN is not taking care of the men and women who have come back from there hellholes.

If they want Special Forces on the ground in advisory roles fine but there is no reason we should have US Infantry on the ground in Syria.

As far as Pelosi...I am TIRED of these elected #heads going overseas to what...make things better? For some reason they can, even old officials and POTUS and go over seas and talk # but our current POTUS has a phone call and they want to impeach him....

a reply to: matafuchs

If they want Special Forces on the ground in advisory roles fine but there is no reason we should have US Infantry on the ground in Syria.

Yes, better to send them to Iraq and Saudi Arabia

a reply to: matafuchs


The true story of Charlie Wilson's War. Tanx for Al Quaeda, Charlie!

If you substitute playgirl male bunnies for playboy female bunnies and the coke for opioids, I'm betting Lindsey Graham's War would be much the same. Has anyone else noticed Lindsey's very glassy eyes?

This will also explain how regime-change warmongers influence some of it and stars "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb-Iran McCain":

Another Runaway General: Army Deploys Psy-Ops on U.S. Senators



Seriously important article and also demonstrates how real whistleblowers are treated.

a reply to: bally001

Apparently Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff took a wrong turn, and ended up in....JORDAN. NOT TURKEY.

In a statement, Pelosi said it is a "critical time for the security and stability of the region," and said the delegation specifically discussed "regional stability, counterterrorism, security cooperation, Middle East peace" and "economic development."

The issues of an increased flow of refugees and the "dangerous opening that has been provided to ISIS, Iran, and Russia" were also touched on as nine US officials joined with Jordan's top leaders.

The Jordanians in attendance besides King Abdullah II were his son, Crown Prince Al Hussein bin Abdullah II, Prince Feisal bin Al Hussein, Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi, and other top Jordan officials.

The members of the US House delegation were Representatives Adam Schiff, Eliot Engel (Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee), Mac Thornberry, Bennie Thompson, Ron Kind, Susan Davis, Stephen Lynch, and Elaine Luria. The meeting took place in Amman, Jordan's capital, and the delegation also met with US Marines there.

Source: www.businessinsider.com...

Any time you have Pelosi and Schiff working on project, rest assured IT IS NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk



☹️ I like smart Alec remarks !

I’ve been too busy researching today I haven’t watch the news.

Has Pelosi spoke up at all ?

originally posted by: Finspiracy
a reply to: Fallingdown

Good. Maybe this move will save the Kurds from genocide, after USA shamelessly turned their backs on them because they could not use them anymore.

USA shouldn't have been there first place and started bombing the Syrian army. Let the ME deal with the ISIS terrorists.

a reply to: vonclod

Oh I knew that one was coming but that is a different conversation. Personally I don't think we should be there either. We are not the world police however just like Afghanistan those who will be the next generation of Western hate are created in these wars. Let them hate each other again like they have for over 1000 years.

There is no need for the US to be globalists. At all. After 9/11 we should have turned the Middle East to Glass for what they did and stopped dealing with SA like we were. That is another discussion in another thread.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: bally001

"Dinkum"??

Not familiar with that term, but it doesn't sound good.

As for the link, here you go...

Link

In this context 'Dinkum' is an aussie vernacular meaning "really, didn't know that." Kinda like "Crikey" surprise. Because your comment really surprised me as I didn't know that fact and it changed the complexion of the whole situ for me.

Meant to be nice towards you.

Kind regards,

Bally

We have a regrettable history of NOT preventing genocide. Even in WWII, our government was well aware of the genocide taking place in camps way before we got involved. As for Isis, we created them, in large part, as its perfectly okay in this capitalistic economy to sell weapons to just about anyone with the money to buy them.

Syria will likely be annexed by Turkey and Russia, and nothing will change there, except perhaps, get worse. The simple fact that Erdrogan called Trump and requested the withdrawal of Special Forces consultants to the Kurds necessarily means he wasn't willing to invade as long as there was American protection present. Deserting the Kurds, and abandoning Syrian democracy forces will most likely harm our international interests, and be seen as a country that makes promises and doesn't keep them. As for being a global police force, it's a global world. Countries depend on us for food and other commodities, and we depend on other countries, similarly. It's a global stage, and the isolationist ideal of Americans who don't want to be involved world wide should stop buying Samsung products, or Nissans or Toyotas. I am no fan of the covert starting of coos and wars by this country, but it Is a truth that promises abandoned are one of the main reasons radicalization happens and hatred for this country abounds.

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: Finspiracy

I’m curious.

Did you ever at any time complain about America starting wars all over the world ?

I give you a reply because i dislike if i am being left curious.

All the time! All the time i am telling you! Most likely there is some evidence in my posting history. America seems to bring "freedom" and "Democracy" to places where there are natural resources to exploit, like oil. But now where there is an actual humanitarian crisis, and USA as a true power has the means to stop that, they don't give a flying F.

This is not an offence towards an everyday American Joe or American Jane. I don't like war, my fantasy is a world which is totally free of wars. But that is an impossibility, due to basic human nature and human behavior, Then i wish the powerful ones, like America, would do their best to reduce the damage to a minimum.

a reply to: Finspiracy

There’s oil in Syria.

Why are you upset about America withdrawing from there ?

The Taliban was executing people in the streets yet .

I’m pretty sure you were offended when we went in there .

I understand your dislike for military actions I share some of the same .

But hypocritical positions show a inner dislike for America .

Rarely if ever is the UK mention although they are almost if not always by our side .

When the UK is mentioned most Europeans dismiss it because of the lower troop numbers.

Despite the fact that they still kill people.

I find it telling of their true emotions that people put a number on their outrage .

By the way did you know that the UK and France sent additional troops to Syria in July. Because they knew the US withdraw was coming ?

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: Finspiracy

By the way did you know that the UK and France sent additional troops to Syria in July. Because they knew the US withdraw was coming ?

No sir, i was unaware of that.

I am not an expert of global geopolitical things. Or any things. I ask you to not call me a hypocrite. "uninformed" that i can live with and i try to learn. It was just my own interpretation of things, that the Kurds have been kicked in the head for decades, i think they deserve they should have their own independent country and peace and freedom. And USA could have helped, but now that ISIS is almost smashed into dust (thankfully) the USA abandoned them (the Kurds)

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: vonclod

Oh I knew that one was coming but that is a different conversation. Personally I don't think we should be there either. We are not the world police however just like Afghanistan those who will be the next generation of Western hate are created in these wars. Let them hate each other again like they have for over 1000 years.

There is no need for the US to be globalists. At all. After 9/11 we should have turned the Middle East to Glass for what they did and stopped dealing with SA like we were. That is another discussion in another thread.

Of course it was coming..I disagree that is a different conversation though. The supposed reason was to get out of endless middle east wars, sending the forces from Syria to Iraq and others to SA seems to not fall in line with getting them out.

Otherwise I agree for the most part.