'Yankee Go Home' Sentiment Grows as 1K+ Bases Strong US Empire Strikes Back

Trump loves to denounce NATO, but the alliance is expanding, even to the point US attempts coups on other members.

Warm with Putin yet Cold War still is on.

Withdrawing troops from Syria and Afghanistan, but standby for Iran and Venezuela.

And play ball and pen pals with Kim Jong Un, yet forever denounce his supposed nukes and looming nuclear 'threat'?!


theweek.com...

America's global game of brinksmanship with the Soviet Union during the Cold War led to us to adopt contradictory positions. Then 9/11 happened and public opinion and the outlook of America's foreign policy establishment grew darker. We had to fight back. If nations used their freedom to back the United States and its aims, then we would cheerfully quote Jefferson. But if they dissented, or resisted, or if people living within their borders plotted against us, then all bets were off. Then American troops or special forces or CIA operatives or armed drones would swoop in to make sure they were stopped in their tracks, self-determination be damned. U.S. has spent the past 18 years swatting at insects capable of inflicting pain but falling far short of the capacity to pose an existential threat.Which means, in effect, that the nations of the world must be divided into two camps: those that are with us and those that are against us. Precisely how long this arrangement can go on is anyone's guess — but we know it can't last forever, or anything close to it. The U.S. is indisputably in relative decline.
We can't control the peoples of the world; we can only protect ourselves. The sooner we learn to accept that accomplishing the latter doesn't require trying (and failing) to achieve the former, the better.

www.ft.com...

The rise of a new generation of anti-Americans. Condemnations of the US are becoming routine — and may not end when Trump departs

The world will keep on turning. But younger generations will grow up with a very different picture of America than their parents. China’s Belt and Road Initiative now extends to almost every continent. Even in Germany, which is culturally among the most pro-American of allies, Xi Jinping’s approval rating is far higher than Mr Trump’s.
The share of global elites educated in America has long since overtaken those who study in places such as Cambridge. US is likely to retain the lion’s share of international students. But if it makes a habit of denying them work visas — and scorning the “huddled masses” — peacetime anti-Americanism will long outlast Mr Trump.

a reply to: letni

Lamest thread yet

No opine and 2 boring videos.

ETA-

S&F for adding your thoughts. Even though not sure I agree.

Those weren’t NATO troops that Trump withdrew. He got us out of the ongoing ME quagmire we have been stuck in since Bush. This is a border issue between Turkey and Syria. There is ZERO reason we should be fighting this dispute for these guys.

a reply to: letni

'Kay.

Bai.

*waves bai*

The US are the policeman to the world. People do not like the police. Until they need them.

Im good with that, lets close down on all but the most necessary bases around the globe bring all the troops home, and let Europe carry the load... wouldn't bother me at all.

There are certain topics about which I should keep my opinions to myself.

Respect.

Man, I think I am going to have to start copying every post I make in this place. Not that it matters, but so I can see how I can stop political trolling and baiting.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
Im good with that, lets close down on all but the most necessary bases around the globe bring all the troops home, and let Europe carry the load... wouldn't bother me at all.

Why Europe? It ain't the ME for instance, funnily enough!
What assessment makes, " all but the most necessary bases"..it surely can't be a malt whisky distillery can it/they?

The Trump/Erdogan deal was done last year, December 2018, the Kurds were to be thrown under the bus.
Why does anyone think Erdogan threw Trump's 9th October 2019 letter into the bin? Yes, the contents were Trump's disclaimer of the affair they already agreed on...Trump just wanted good press for the coming election in bringing the troops home, so he actually..also threw Erdogan with that letter under the bus, after he agreed previously with what Erdogan wanted to do....that's evil personified, why does anyone think Mattis resigned at that time...Mattis saw the evil, that's why.



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a reply to: letni

If Hillary were President it would be twice as bad!

a reply to: letni

From one of your quotes:

The U.S. is indisputably in relative decline.

I think this writer is indisputably in relative decline.

What an asshat!

what do they call correct the record these days, just a new name on the old deep state disinfo campaign

Luke, I am your father?
the bombs and soldiers both have expiration date,
so pull out after attempts then move onto next targets down list.
United States of Earth!

a reply to: smurfy

The Trump/Erdogan deal was done last year, December 2018, the Kurds were to be thrown under the bus. Why does anyone think Erdogan threw Trump's 9th October 2019 letter into the bin? Yes, the contents were Trump's disclaimer of the affair they already agreed on...Trump just wanted good press for the coming election in bringing the troops home, so he actually..also threw Erdogan with that letter under the bus, after he agreed previously with what Erdogan wanted to do....that's evil personified, why does anyone think Mattis resigned at that time...Mattis saw the evil, that's why.

Erdogan is a hard core Islamist and if he is following the advice of Mohammad as written in the Quran, then it's OK to lie to the infidels and make deals he never intends to keep as long as it supports and protects Islam's interests. He isn't obligated to make a legitimate contract with an unbeliever and can't be trusted to keep his word in a deal.

Trump just beat him to it if what you stated is true about this December 2018 deal. The president knows that Erdogan wants to establish a revised Ottoman empire and that Erdogan will say anything or make any deal toward that end.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

So you agree trump is also a two faced lying twat just like Erdogan.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Yea, that is what I'm saying. But Trump seems to know when he should be a 2-faced lying twat and with whom.

a reply to: smurfy

Why europe... cause they like to scream america needs to do something with precious little assistance from them... now the men and women they have sent forward are fine troops and do a good job.

But, time to put your money (europe not you in particular) where you mouth is, we have constantly been called in to fix europes colonial screw ups, and then roundly criticized by europe no matter what we do.

So screw it lets pull back work on our infrastructure and see if europe can manage without trying to genocide each other for a generation.

a reply to: letni

" Trump loves to denounce NATO "


No , he wants them to Pay their Bills AS Agreed . Whats he gotta do , Break their Legs ?