A New-To-Me Theory on 9/11

a reply to: Salander

Kwahakev tried this game and posted this picture.

originally posted by: kwakakev

So far, you haven’t even provide any evidence concerning cut steel columns.

If you are not going to be serious about this i am not going to help you with your silly games.

One. If explosives hurled this massive piece of building, the explosion wound have been massive. The resultant pressure wave would have been obvious, and ruptured eardrums throughout manhattan. There is still intact windows in the building part of the WTC fell into. The pressure waves from explosions hurling ton pieces of building would have completely knocked out windows.

Two. The piece contains broken welds, with no indication of being worked by cutting charges.

Three, why would cutting charges hurl large pieces of building?

Four, the pieces are explained by the tumbling action of the structural steel.

a reply to: neutronflux

If explosives did not hurl those pieces NF, then what did?

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux

If explosives did not hurl those pieces NF, then what did?

What proof do you have that explosives hurled pieces vs being pushed out by collapsing floors? And the toppling of large vertical columns?

This is what happens when there is actual shrapnel from actual explosives with no care in properly trapping demolitions shrapnel.

Katie Bender's family commemorate 20 years since Royal Canberra Hospital implosion

www.canberratimes.com.au...

Seconds after the explosion on that Sunday afternoon, Katie was was killed instantly by a steel fragment sent flying from 430 metres across the lake. It was thought to be travelling at 140km/h.

Canberra Hospital Implosion 1997
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The sound of explosions is clearly heard above the collapse of the building and echos about.

The steel fragment that instantly killed Katie was ejected 430 meters from what looks like an eight story building. How many meters was the steel fragment ejected out vs how tall the building was?

a reply to: neutronflux

Oh My Goodness! Out of all the silly posts you have offered here, this one takes the cake.

Those pieces were pushed out by collapsing floors? ROFLMAO

Desperate is as desperate does.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux

Oh My Goodness! Out of all the silly posts you have offered here, this one takes the cake.

Those pieces were pushed out by collapsing floors? ROFLMAO

Desperate is as desperate does.

You going to talk about actual Evidence? Or just have a conniption fit?

Again... the actual whole argument.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Salander

Kwahakev tried this game and posted this picture.

originally posted by: kwakakev

So far, you haven’t even provide any evidence concerning cut steel columns.

If you are not going to be serious about this i am not going to help you with your silly games.

One. If explosives hurled this massive piece of building, the explosion wound have been massive. The resultant pressure wave would have been obvious, and ruptured eardrums throughout manhattan. There is still intact windows in the building part of the WTC fell into. The pressure waves from explosions hurling ton pieces of building would have completely knocked out windows.

Two. The piece contains broken welds, with no indication of being worked by cutting charges.

Three, why would cutting charges hurl large pieces of building?

Four, the pieces are explained by the tumbling action of the structural steel.


originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux

If explosives did not hurl those pieces NF, then what did?

What proof do you have that explosives hurled pieces vs being pushed out by collapsing floors? And the toppling of large vertical columns?

This is what happens when there is actual shrapnel from actual explosives with no care in properly trapping demolitions shrapnel.

Katie Bender's family commemorate 20 years since Royal Canberra Hospital implosion

www.canberratimes.com.au...

Seconds after the explosion on that Sunday afternoon, Katie was was killed instantly by a steel fragment sent flying from 430 metres across the lake. It was thought to be travelling at 140km/h.

Canberra Hospital Implosion 1997
m.youtube.com...

The sound of explosions is clearly heard above the collapse of the building and echos about.

The steel fragment that instantly killed Katie was ejected 430 meters from what looks like an eight story building. How many meters was the steel fragment ejected out vs how tall the building was?

Whoever posted the pictures, those pictures show the official story to be pure bovine excrement, and your claim that those massive pieces were "pushed out" by collapsing floors is absurd to the point of being comical.

originally posted by: Salander
Whoever posted the pictures, those pictures show the official story to be pure bovine excrement, and your claim that those massive pieces were "pushed out" by collapsing floors is absurd to the point of being comical.

And yet, there is no indication those pieces were worked on by explosives.

There is no evidence in the audio/video evidence of explosions period.

But pieces of vertical columns tumbling outward is right there in the video evidence.

a reply to: neutronflux

You trust the government sheesh lol. You’re their greatest propagandist.

originally posted by: Thenail
a reply to: neutronflux

You trust the government sheesh lol. You’re their greatest propagandist.

Quote where I ever said trust the government. I don’t trust a bunch of truth movement charlatans too.

Example. I came to believe thermal stress caused structural failures resulting in the collapse initiation for the WTC 1 and 2.

Which should I find more credible:

Fizzle no flash bombs as pushed by Richard Gauge?

Thermite paint and ceiling tiles as pushed by Dr. Jones?

Jet holograms with missiles and lasers?

WTC nukes?

WTC fire extinguisher bombs?

Dr Wood’s dustification?

Plasma attack?


Which one are you going to champion and argue?

a reply to: Lazarus Short

Funny the slide of the presentation you linked to didn’t list potential energy?

Potential energy

en.m.wikipedia.org...

In physics, potential energy is the energy held by an object because of its position relative to other objects, stresses within itself, its electric charge, or other factors.[1][2]

Strange theory!

I read this plus i watched a video the man did. he is the most accurate to date of the event that fell the towers.
a reply to: Lazarus Short

in fact it is comprehensive and sound. nuclear third generation a reply to: ontogeny55

a reply to: CharlesT

all of the steel was coated with sprayed on asbestos as fire protection.

Awesome, that worked really well, huh!

it lists the ammount of energy needed to pulverize and sublimate steel and the energy needed to liquefy granite and compares that to the energy in the destructive devices,a reply to: neutronflux

originally posted by: new_here
a reply to: CharlesT

all of the steel was coated with sprayed on asbestos as fire protection.

Awesome, that worked really well, huh!

Not a true statement for the twin towers. Only one of the two towers had asbestos. And that one tower only had a third of it covered by asbestos. The insulation was changed to none-asbestos during construction.

I'll bite on this one just for fun.

So, assuming it is a nuclear blast.


1. What was the builder/deployer/mastermind of this weapons plan if it say, partially worked and only killed a bunch of people and left the buildings partially standing?

2. Where would u find an expert to build a system that would cause MULTIPLE out of control nuclear attacks so close to one another and expect both of them to work? Especially with EMPs which travel through ground.

3. So a mastermind/businessman owns the buildings...has access to nuclear weaponry...and decides the most fiscally rewarding path is to commit insurance fraud?

So yeah, the paper basically lays out the case that the towers were nuked for insurance...

Seriously, a businessman who has nukes figures the best course of action is to use them for insurance fraud. If your willing to break the law to make money, nuking property is a seriously bad cost/benefit analysis. Especially when u have capital of the value as the towers.

originally posted by: ontogeny55
I read this plus i watched a video the man did. he is the most accurate to date of the event that fell the towers.
a reply to: Lazarus Short

Really? That the core stood for a few seconds after the complete downward collapse and failure of the floor system. The long lengths of still not pulverized steel columns fell outed from loss of lateral support?

a reply to: Lazarus Short
Watch this:
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
Why do you keep posting the same image......the one with the columns that look like they are still standing......but then they blow away in the wind?

Obviously those columns did not get crushed by the building that supposedly fell on them......they simply evaporated and blew across NY.

Where did the towers go?

Fake. Another truth movement lie.



If the steel didn’t drop to the ground as broken columns, what destroyed the other buildings at the WTC.?

Many of the surrounding buildings were also either damaged or destroyed as the towers fell. 5 WTC endured a large fire and a partial collapse of its steel structure and was torn down. Other buildings destroyed include St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, Marriott World Trade Center (Marriott Hotel 3 WTC), South Plaza (4 WTC), and U.S. Customs (6 WTC). The World Financial Center buildings, 90 West Street, and 130 Cedar Street suffered fires. The Deutsche Bank Building, the Verizon Building, and World Financial Center 3 had impact damage from the towers' collapse,[55] as did 90 West Street.[56] One Liberty Plaza survived structurally intact but sustained surface damage including shattered windows. 30 West Broadway was damaged by the collapse of 7 WTC. The Deutsche Bank Building, which was covered in a large black "shroud" after September 11 to cover the building's damage, was deconstructed because of water, mold, and other severe damage caused by the neighboring towers' collapse.[57][58] Many works of art were destroyed in the collapse.

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Each tower was about 500,000 tons in weight. WTC 7 I think wasn’t even 200,000 tons?

About 1.6 million tons of material obtained from Ground Zero was taken to the landfill for sorting.[18]

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According to an Associated Press report by Joann Loviglio, more than two dozen flatbed trucks loaded with 500 tons of WTC structural steel has arrived in Coatesville, Pa., where the massive supports called "steel trees" were made more than four decades ago, forged by Lukens Steel Co. in 1969. The steel framed the perimeter of the 110-story twin towers' first nine floors and lobbies before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks destroyed the skyscrapers. Now two mammoth waterfalls that are part of the 9/11 Memorial are being built within the original footprints of the towers. The eight-acre memorial opens next year.

www.911memorial.org...

A mile-long procession of 28 flatbed trucks is expected to arrive in Coatesville on Wednesday afternoon carrying 500 tons of structural supports, referred to as "steel trees'' because of their upward branching shape.
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