US Troops trapped in Syria along with 50 Nukes

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Gorgonite
Following Trumps decision to move our troops aside to allow for Turkeys planned invasion of Syria several things have gone wrong. Hundreds of civilians have been gunned down, Turkey has attacked our troops and ISIS fighters have escaped prison.

Today it is being reported that the troops Trump ordered to relocate are being ordered to retreat. However, Turkey has effectively cut off any means of retreat available to our soldiers. In addition to the 1000 troops trapped in Syria there are also 50 tactical nukes.

The drama is nowhere near over. Out of necessity, the Kurds switched sides on Sunday, turning their backs on Washington and signing up with President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, a man the United States has called a war criminal for gassing his own people. At the Pentagon, officials struggled with the right response if Turkish forces — NATO allies — again opened fire on any of the 1,000 or so Americans now preparing to retreat from their positions inside Syria. Those troops are trapped for now, since Turkey has cut off the roads; removing them may require an airlift.

And over the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, about 250 miles from the Syrian border, according to two American officials.

Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan’s hostages. To fly them out of Incirlik would be to mark the de facto end of the Turkish-American alliance. To keep them there, though, is to perpetuate a nuclear vulnerability that should have been eliminated years ago.

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I think it’s safe to say at this point that Trump is in over his head and incapable of playing 4D chess.

Trump in over his head ?

That avatar picture of yours of Hillary is really starting to affect you.

Hillary and Barry O are the ones that supported ISIS in Syria and sent them weapons - they CAUSED the refugee crisis affecting Europe and the World

Nah he's not in over his head!
He first pulled our the troops and now he's redeploying them again. We'll, I guess he kept his promise to pull them out. He never said for how long.
4d chess? Hell, this is quantom computing force right there.
So much winning...

/sarc

More winning than when DNC assholes supply ISIS terrorists with weapons

Quantom computing strategy .
No one knows ISIS and war better than Donny. He even knows better than the generals.

a reply to: Gorgonite

This is one of the most dangerous turn of event's since the invention of the atomic bomb, the idea that 50 tactical nuclear devices are in a location were they may well end up falling into the wrong hand's, even if they were not able to use the devices they would certainly attempt to obtain the material within then and blowing them up is not an option either as being effectively behind enemy lines they could still sift and centrifuge the material to obtain as much of the Plutonian as they could to make there own bomb.

The world Utter Idiot come's to mind but I shall not say whom I am currently thinking about, let's just say I don't put my nose into other people's politics but a situation like this is a liability for the world not just the US.

This is actual full justification or a full on security mission to secure those nukes and those troop's lives.

The Russian's are NOT the danger they too would be unlikely to wish that material to fall into the wrong hand's and would perhaps also be open to a behind the scenes deal with the US military to get that stuff out of there, what idiot put's that type of ordnance in that type of location to begin with the cold war is over it should have been retired back to it's nation of origin and NEVER been sent to such a location, I mean what clown thought it would be a good idea to store Nukes in potentially hostile territory (if these are cold war ordnance) or what clown - even worse - though it was a good idea to locate some there AFTER the cold war, tactical nukes while being small are not the type of weapon's you deploy to country's that are unstable and all such cold war ordnance should have been repatriated following the end of the cold war and the heating up of the Middle east as it became unstable.

Honestly it boggles the mind it really is like the Idiots are in charge.

It's a safe bet the US has no troops or nukes trapped anywhere. It just doesn't happen.



Anyway

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on FoxNews yesterday set the timeline straight:

Pompeo said that Turkey told him they were going to invade Syria with 15,000 troops within 48 hours.

Pompeo told President Trump

An angry Trump called Turkey's Edrogan

Edrogan said we're invading Syria with 15,000 troops, planes, tanks, etc.. in 48 hours. PERIOD.

Trump "went off script" with Edrogan, hung up, and ordered the Pentagon to get our 1,100 men/women out of the immediate area ASAP.

US Troops trapped in Syria along with 50 Nukes

Trapped ?
May require an airlift ?
There is a large airfield within Incirlik Air Base
After all it is an AIRBASE .
Get it ?
Nothing and no one is "trapped"
The ICBMS that were once a NATO operation were pulled long ago.
The nukes are B61s which are low yield tactical battlefield that are fit to certain aircraft such as F-15s.
Small and easily transportable.

The problem lies in the fact this was a joint US , British , French , and Turkish operation.
They were basically "shared" with Turkey from the Cold War years as Turkey is also a NATO country.

This same bulls__ raised its head during the coup attempt in Turkey years ago .
So , dont worry yourself one little bit over this.
It will only make your hair gray for no reason whatsoever.

a reply to: Gorgonite
pretty sure when you start a thread you need to use the articles exact title "Trump Followed His Gut on Syria. Calamity Came Fast." not us troops and nukes trapped in syria
by what measure are us troops on a us base in turky trapped? they are in a nato ally country (even if turky is shady) and its not like the turks are just gonana get to take these nukes and lol if they tried they would be kicked out of nato and you dont think the us military would use literally any method of stopping them from getting into Turkish hands?

your article is about the weapons possibly being removed not that they are "trapped" or that the truks are at risk of taking them but that if we take them back its this sign we are finally telling the turks to screw off and getting ready to kick them out of nato .

www.businessinsider.com... e=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-insider-main&fbclid=IwAR0_4V5WY8Rwx87T3XNDLnm8vcaIOj91-PEZFDwuO9BcTVYDxppmOd8r2es well lets see how the turks like sanctions

"Turkey's military offensive is endangering civilians, and threatening peace, security, and stability in the region. I have been perfectly clear with President Erdogan: Turkey's action is precipitating a humanitarian crisis and setting conditions for possible war crimes," Trump added. "The US will aggressively use economic sanctions to target those who enable, facilitate, and finance these heinous acts in Syria," Trump said, going on to say he's prepared to "swiftly destroy Turkey's economy if Turkish leaders continue down this dangerous and destructive path." Trump said the US will also stop negotiations with Turkey on a $100 billion trade deal, while increasing tariffs on steel back up to 50% after reducing them to 25% in May.

so sanctions and tarrifs back on the menu

www.thedrive.com...

It's important to note that there are a number of security measures in place that mitigates the most immediate risks to the B61s, such as someone attempting to steal one and set it off. Each bomb has a coded lock mechanism known as a Permissive Action Link (PAL) that requires a unique 12-digit code in order to arm it. Handlers can also render them inert using a different command disable code. That's not to say that there aren't risks, including that someone could fashion the weapons into some form of a dirty bomb, as well as the general security nightmare that would result from any loose nuclear weapons, not to mention the national embarrassment.

and

"Still, it is unlikely that the 700-pound B61 nuclear bombs would be stolen from the facility. The storage area is made up of underground vaults, and its perimeter is ringed with two security fences and loads of surveillance, not to mention the compliment of soldiers there to protect the weapons. The facility has also received recent upgrades to make it more hardened against intrusion. However, if Turkey’s increasingly totalitarian political leadership were to take a vehemently anti-American stance, the security that protects the nukes would amount to a speed-bump for Turkey's armed forces. Even a very well-orchestrated and large-scale terrorist attack on the compound could lead to a disastrous situation, even if only geopolitically. On the other hand, you can't simply steal a B61 nuclear bomb and use it as you wish. The fusing system is protected by a code mechanism called a Permissive Action Link (PAL). The codes needed to authorize their activation have to be provided by the National Command Authority. The weapons also must be continuously maintained to be combat effective.

and if the turks try to seize them well turky would have a pretty bad day if it attacked the us and british forces on the base


www.mcchord.af.mil... for those that watch plane deployments these would be the guys removing the bombs

In continued readiness for the Prime Nuclear Airlift Force mission, 62nd Airlift Wing Airmen secure a nuclear cargo training aid inside a C-17 aircraft during a recent nuclear airlift mission training exercise. McChord’s 62nd Airlift Wing is the only organization in the U.S. Air Force tasked with the Prime Nuclear Airlift Force mission. Following a week-long inspection of the PNAF mission at McChord AFB, concluding Jan 12, inspectors rated the wing’s ability to complete the mission, “Satisfactory”, the highest possible rating. (U.S. Air Force photo/Capt. Casey Collier)

and as the drive article goes on to say leveling the base is an option in case of threat to the nuclear weapons w bunker busters

a reply to: Gorgonite

Your title makes it sound like the US had 50 nukes inside SYRIA.
Yet the article clearly states the nukes are inside a US air base in Incirlik, Turkey.

Misleading...don't you think?

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Gorgonite

Your title makes it sound like the US had 50 nukes inside SYRIA.
Yet the article clearly states the nukes are inside a US air base in Incirlik, Turkey.

Misleading...don't you think?

The truth is now optional...Keep up

a reply to: RalagaNarHallas

But arn't these nukes supposed to be there to keep an eye on Russia. So if Trump falls out with Turkey they will be a problem.

a reply to: Gorgonite

[QUOTE]
And over the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, about 250 miles from the Syrian border, according to two American officials.
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But you said the nukes were on Syria, that's very misleading, to say the least

Why didn't you bold that other statement instead of the one you selected, or all of it in context? It's clearly misleading, and you want to be taken seriously somehow after that?

originally posted by: Gorgonite

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Gorgonite

Remove them, end the farce.

# Turkey.

They are trapped...... they can’t leave now.

nah, there's updates from syria of helicopters picking up soldiers.. they arent trapped

plus turkey isnt shooting at US troops, vehicles or aircraft.. so evacuating them shouldnt be difficult.

a reply to: Gorgonite

Negative...its a very misleading headline and story. We do not have troops in Syria with Nuclear weapons. The story is speculating about an airbase in Turkey called Incirlik which allegedly has a nuclear arsenal. Never confirmed nor denied, I spent 3 years there myself. The story attempts to portray Erdogan as holding our nuclear weapons at Incirlik hostage. The base is 250 miles from the Syrian border and Erdogan has not made any statements nor taken any action to suggest that is in his plans.

We have about 1000 troops in Syria. They are not armed nor prepared to take on the Turkish army performing this current offensive. Most of those troops are there as advisers only. There are Special OP troops but they are designated mostly as target identifiers trainers.

This is NOT TRUE...reading comprehension is not part of your skill set. Dont use a totally fake headline and story to make a point. It's just wrong and this thread belongs in the HOAX forum. An absolute fraud of a title and a complete misrepresentation of the article. Certainly one for the hall of fame and based on a couple of replies, Emmy's should be awarded. SHAME !!!!

a reply to: Gothmog

Trapped ?
May require an airlift ?
There is a large airfield within Incirlik Air Base
After all it is an AIRBASE .
Get it ?
Nothing and no one is "trapped"
The ICBMS that were once a NATO operation were pulled long ago.
The nukes are B61s which are low yield tactical battlefield that are fit to certain aircraft such as F-15s.
Small and easily transportable.

How dare you bring facts into this discussion?!