New study shows e-cig smoke causes cancer and DNA damage in mice

9 of 40 mice (22.5%) exposed to e-cig smoke with nicotine for 54 weeks developed lung adenocarcinomas

23 of 40 mice (57.5%) exposed to e-cig smoke developed bladder hyperplasia, genetic changes that make cells more likely to multiply, and a step toward abnormal tissue growth

Researchers told CNBC that the e-cig vapor caused DNA damage in the mice’s lungs and bladder and “inhibits DNA repair in lung tissues.”
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Two things should be pointed out here. First, this particular study was rather limited in that only a small number of mice were used for the tests. Second, this study wasn't meant to directly correlate to human consumption. The intent of the study was rather to show that e-cigarette vapor can have negative consequences that we don't yet understand. The fact that a significant portion of the mice developed cancer and DNA damage from exposure to the e-cigarette vapor is alarming.
Yes, I know, vaping is probably better for you than smoking cigarettes... A lot of people, myself included, have gotten off cigarettes by vaping. But the fact remains, we don't yet know what vaping is doing to the human body, and we should acknowledge that instead of just assuming it's harmless.

While I do agree with you that based on the report the scope is limited, however, research with mice is well understood and there is a huge body of data so I would take the claim seriously.

The issue with the vaping is not the nicotine (which in and of itself well understood) per say but with whatever lies in the vape juice that is perhaps the culprit.

I just heard that peanut butter causes cancer so I guess everything causes cancer .

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a reply to: FredT

Not to say that nicotine isnt damaging since it causes stiffening of the arteries which will lead to cardio vascular issues down the road.

But man... that vape juice sounds worse than plain cigs.

originally posted by: flice
a reply to: FredT

Not to say that nicotine isnt damaging since it causes stiffening of the arteries which will lead to cardio vascular issues down the road.

But man... that vape juice sounds worse than plain cigs.

Oh for sure, but Vaping seems to have sparked an increase in respiratory issues and the like.....

Its either the shoddy material of the vape itself out gassing whatever it is made out of or the juice.

And lets be honest they look ridiculous sucking on that vape.

a reply to: FredT

That's what the media wants you to believe it's not regular vape that has been causing problems It's black market THC pens . Totally different animal I've been vaping for over 10 years since before it was cool no problems . I've cost big tobacco $36,500 since I quit smoking cigs.

a reply to: trollz

Testing/reports on bad effects from nicotine have since the beginning of the tests been controlled by big tobacco. I'm not saying this study is lieing, I wasnt part of it. But i can tell you it ain't much different then big government bs.

originally posted by: Gargoyle91
I just heard that peanut butter causes cancer so I guess everything causes cancer .

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' Watchdogs are demanding tighter checks on imports to stop tainted nuts getting through.'

a reply to: Gargoyle91

Everything if you live in California, I got a stack of empty boxes from there once with the cancer warning. For some damn cardboard.

GMO.

Cellphones.

Wifi.

The Clintons.

At least with the Clinton's, no study is needed. Death is a certainty.

a reply to: trollz

And in other news, apparently Fluoride is highly toxic, but it's OK in small doses... FFS .... There is absolutely NOTHING to be gained from this experiment whatsoever, seriously.

Just have a look ta the PROPAGANDA language.

"Tobacco smoke is among the most dangerous environmental agents to which humans are routinely exposed, but the potential of e-cig smoke as a threat to human health is not yet fully understood," said Tang, a professor in the Departments of Environmental Medicine, Medicine, and Pathology. "Our study results in mice were not meant to be compared to human disease, but instead argue that e-cig smoke must be more thoroughly studied before it is deemed safe or marketed that way."

Tobacco Smoke......most dangerous.....routinely exposed.....e-cig smoke......not yet fully understood......e-cig smoke.

What's e-cig smoke precious.

a reply to: trollz

This should be a surprise to no one. While SOME use vaping to get off smoking, research shows that vaping leads to lower success rates in quitting altogether.

So while vaping is 'safer' than smoking, the actual consequences of vaping may be worse for the general public.

originally posted by: myselfaswell

What's e-cig smoke precious.

What is inhaled when you vape.

E-cigarettes are not safer than cigarettes, in fact, I feel the organic real cigarettes are probably safer than the E-cigarettes. Nicotine is not that dangerous, but if too much is inhaled, it can cause some major health issues. Nicotine is a medicine. You do not take a medicine if you do not need it at the time.

I would rather smoke a decent tobacco product than smoke the e-cigarettes. I do not smoke very much, never have, some of my friends smoked like chimneys.

a reply to: trollz

Shouldn't these tests have been done prior to e-cigs going on sale to the general public?

They had mice exposed to e-cig "smoke" with nicotine and without.

The mice exposed without nicotine did NOT develop cancer.

Next point:

These mice were surrounded by e-cig "smoke" 24/7.

They were in chambers full of the stuff, 24/7.


#1 This does not represent a realistic vape scenario.

#2 Non nicotine e-cig "smoke" seems harmless, based on this study.

a reply to: trollz

Cigarette companies don't fool around if the research protects their share of the addiction market.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: trollz

Cigarette companies don't fool around if the research protects their share of the addiction market.

You are correct.

The goal is FDA regulation (which means they are the only source with the money and political pull to get approvals).

Someone made a great point about the Vape controversy recently...... Where are all the dead people in the UK, Canada, and other non US countries?

Oh, that is right... the THC / Oil black market stuff appears to be only in the US.

a reply to: infolurker

Where are all the dead people in the UK, Canada, and other non US countries?

That certainly is an obvious question worth asking. Not only that, where are all the cancer patients in the US after the best part of 20years of people vaping.

It's very, very disappointing that people actually believe the propaganda, and it is propaganda. Even more disappointing on a conspiracy website where people should be thinking.......

It's all about money, not health. I mean do people seriously think the pharmaceutical industry is happy to see people vaping and not smoking. Has anybody else even considered the potential for decreased hospital and drug use as a direct response to people vaping and the subsequent loss of revenue. I'm not even going to mention taxation...

a reply to: FredT

Here in Michigan, all flavored removed last week. Illegal to sell...and there are a lot of young Middleastern immigrants opening hooka stores, lounges, bars...here in Dearborn.

E Cigs to be banned shortly