Increased Species Sophistication Evolved Into Golden Ratio in Human Skulls

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: muzzleflash

Why do human skulls randomly exhibit Phi yet others do not (considering that their "evolutionary complexity" actually evolved upwards to Phi).

"Upwards?" Do you think humans are evolutionarily superior to other creatures?

The words used were "increased species sophistication." That sounds somewhat subjective.

Lmao

That's exactly what "they" think.

a reply to: Phage

We all can win if:
#1 We humans don't Armageddon
#2 We take Earth life and seed new worlds to avoid cosmic catastrophes.
#3 Always remember we're in this together.

That's real winning!

a reply to: muzzleflash

Yeah.
But about that "evolutionary complexity" thing...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: muzzleflash

Yeah.
But about that "evolutionary complexity" thing...

It's funny how people keep talking about complexity as though more elaborate mechanics mean superior peformance. Don't they know less is more?

Could be we humans find the golden ratio to be attractive because it mathematically aligns with the human head, then we breed with those who more closely match it because we find them more physically attractive, thus creating more of the species which will match it even more closely. Rinse and repeat. Chicken or egg?

a reply to: Identified

That's an interesting train of thought, I randomly wondered something similar earlier about it being reversed in origin.

Good post.

This is the effect of gravity, magnetization, and exposure to Specific radiation. Cross reference the common occurences of the golden ratio. This is less divine intervention, and more adaption of how molecules bind on this planet under energetic cyclical conditions. And yes I believe in God.

Here is how the pentagram and pentagon embodying the Golden Ratio determine the number of bones in the adult human skeleton:
smphillips.mysite.com...
This number is 206. Here is the amazing way in which the famous number 137, which has been regarded as many as the most magical and important number in the universe:
science.howstuffworks.com...
because it is the approximate value of the reciprocal of the fine-structure constant measuring the strength of the coupling of an electron to the electromagnetic field, is related to the number 206:
smphillips.mysite.com...
smphillips.mysite.com...
137 is the 33rd prime number, where

1! + 2! + 3! + 4!

is the sum of the numbers of permutations of 10 objects arranged in the four rows of the Pythagorean tetractys.

The key to discovering the mathematical connections between these parameters defining holistic systems such as the human body is the tetractys at the heart of Pythagorean philosophy. This is fully explained at the website linked to above. You need to stop seeing the Golden Ratio as some puzzling mathematically beautiful oddity that is separated from the rest of the mathematics underlying nature. It is profoundly connected, as I illustrated above. When one discovers all these connections, it becomes easy to dismiss dismal attempts to debunk the metaphysical significance of the Golden Ratio as based upon nothing more than blind ignorance.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: muzzleflash

There are a lot more insects than mammals.
Who's winning the evolutionary sweepstakes?

I'd say it's quality not quantity that counts.

So there....

lol

a reply to: muzzleflash

The golden ratio is the most efficient form of expansion or contraction. It is how energy flows. If thoughts are electro/chemical processes then the most efficient medium for them to operate in would follow the proportions of the golden ratio.

That’s my guess anyway.

Friend, I think surfer_soul is more on the right track than Phage's scientific inquiries.

There are certain universal truths that seem more metaphysical or esoteric than scientific.
I think Golden Ratios, Fibonacci Sequences, fractals, Shumann Resonances - are all manifestations of universal principles.
Principles like: One-ness, Duality, Power of Three, Stability of Four (pardon paraphrasing, many decades since last access).

My belief is that these 'phenomena" are observational, not scientifically substantiated, not "spiritual" and more than merely anecdotal. (queue Outer Limits or Twilight Zone music)

ganjoa

a reply to: micpsi

Awesome post yet again Micpsi!

The human skeleton huh?
Hmmmm

Mind blowing!!

a reply to: surfer_soul

Efficiency?
That's an interesting hypothesis, and I tend to agree that must at least play part of why.

Does Phi really promote a more efficient electro-chemical system? I dunno so it'd be cool to find out. I'll dig around and see what I find.

Thanks for sharing surfer!

a reply to: Phage

We all know Phi is found in the book of life and is n reference to the divine architecture of
man.

Humans are not divine, we just possess an incredible amount of ego that craves validation and confirmation, the idea that there is a purpose because it would just be so insulting to consider the possibility that we just happen to possess these qualities and there's no world shaking reality altering game of dark vs light to make righteous use of our gifts in the most heroic and grandiose display possible. What would be the point otherwise.

Is there really ever a supergalactic or universal center, an if it were, how many light years would it take to get to it?

a reply to: Phage

well...spank me sideways. I do to.

originally posted by: Specimen88
Is there really ever a supergalactic or universal center, an if it were, how many light years would it take to get to it?

Every point is the "center" relatively, as you can travel an infinite distance in any direction.

If the distance through x and -x is equal, and for y and -y or z and -z, than by definition it is the center point.

So yes, you actually are at the center of the universe. So am I, hahaha.

originally posted by: ganjoa
Friend, I think surfer_soul is more on the right track than Phage's scientific inquiries.

There are certain universal truths that seem more metaphysical or esoteric than scientific.
I think Golden Ratios, Fibonacci Sequences, fractals, Shumann Resonances - are all manifestations of universal principles.
Principles like: One-ness, Duality, Power of Three, Stability of Four (pardon paraphrasing, many decades since last access).

My belief is that these 'phenomena" are observational, not scientifically substantiated, not "spiritual" and more than merely anecdotal. (queue Outer Limits or Twilight Zone music)

ganjoa

Don't forget Pi....

Thinking about that number and how it's a part of so many things, to say nothing of how useful and necessary it is for us, always blows my mind.

Never mind the fact that 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592*640628620899 86280348253421170679 - and that's just calculated to the first 100 digits...goes on infinitely and NEVER repeats.

If that isn't metaphysical - nothing is.

a reply to: Riffrafter

If that isn't metaphysical - nothing is

So...flip a coin?