The Narrative Is Being Controlled : Other Worldly Craft vs. Interdimensional Entity

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
This is a sensible & keen-eyed observation regarding the 'program' which seems to be in operation. 'Someone' is manipulating the conspiracy community - those who are somewhat more 'awake' than the general populace - into believing that there is an all-powerful alien threat which is seeking to cause chaos - but somehow our primitive government is able to keep them at bay, and frequently declares that UFOs are 'not a threat to national security'..??? When in actual fact there would seem to be nothing more directly threatening to our existence than mysterious & powerful craft which can enter our airspace & travel around at will, interfering with the populace & evading our air defences & best fast jet pilots with ease.. Nothing would seem to be more threatening!

But somehow, we can keep them at bay, such that they operate only in the shadows, affecting the lives of people that society would generally not care to listen to or take seriously in any way whatsoever. Could it be that there is an agreement in place?? That our governmental operatives at the highest level have been in communication with the entities which pilot these craft, and have made an agreement which ensures that the craft do not interfere with the mainstream operation of society & citizens who are living in the friend zone, as regards their high tax bracket & so on - instead focusing on those on welfare, on the rednecks in the outback that nobody would ever take seriously.

Did our world governing powers sell out to these mysterious, powerful, de facto 'magical' creatures? Are we pawns in their mysterious, unknown game plan? Or is there a more complex play in operation? Are there rules which bind their activities, such that they can only operate within certain 'channels' of societal structure? With certain bloodlines, families which have a history so dark that they can never come into the light? Are the rules of Dharma manipulated so thet some of our children are shimmied into lifestyles which make them a target for the dark machinations of these nightmare creatures? Are they the dark elves of Germanic folklore? Do they intend to eat us all up, body & soul together, just like in the darkest of fairy tales? I believe this to be the case, and I believe that our governmental structures have 'surfaces of connection' with these beings - ways that they can communicate which are outside of normal considerattion, perhaps also fulfilling magical lore regarding the need to gain consent - even unconscious consent - by putting the nefarious plans they have devised in full public view, yet in a form which only those at the top of the pyramid will be able to interpret... My personal belief is that just like the film 'Arrival', these beings are communicating by meaningful picture language - crop circles - which is encoded with the mystic/pragmatic language, a form of geomancy, which inserts their magical operation into the collective unconscious of the human race, in some way giving them permission to rape & abuse those unfortunates who are channelled into positions in which they can be taken, observed, manipulated, damaged, controlled, and ultimately, if they are unfortunate enough, destroyed in the service of the refinement of the goals & plans these creatures have crafted in the shadows.

For the Truth & the Light, for those who are trapped in terrifying servitude, we all should seek to be more aware of what is happening, and to pray for those that are suffering in chains through the will of the monsters which we have always been told did not exist. Those that are 'dead but dreaming', those that are worshipped by a human cult which helps to craft the circumstances by which abused & tortured unfortunates are put under the will of the Enemy.

Very good post and very similar to my feelings. I often wonder if our government has practiced communication methods much like the close encounters movie.

originally posted by: Hunkadinka

originally posted by: moebius

originally posted by: standingwave
... just talk, talk , and more talk.

Likie almost every thread about UFOs?

You make statements like "inter dimensionals" and "plasmic". But you don't explain what exactly you mean by them. Neither do you provide any proof for your claims.

And that is exactly what I hate about UFOlogy, people making things up, instead of just sticking with what is objectively known.

I was going to provide a similar reply but I'm glad you beat me to it. I know that participating in this forum is questionable in terms of one's own intelligence and once in a while something posted is worth the effort. But when you see worthless threads such as this one where the OP is operating without common sense and trying to sound hip while coming across as uneducated about UFOlogy. The OP is simply ignorant. Of course he didn't explain exactly what he mean, he doesn't have the knowledge to do so. And there is no way he can offer proof. You are correct, he is making things up as he goes along. In a debate he would automatically be a loser.

There is so much about UFOlogy that would make interesting reading but this thread doesn't come close to it.

Is it just me or does anyone else think this post is hateful and condescending? I was not going to reply but at the risk of derailing the thread I wonder why this poster has an ax to grind? I have looked up some threads he made and a few are far from spectacular but I wouldn't jump in and call him ignorant ,ect.

I have had some very close contact with these things, whatever they are, and have since had it upon my mind to research, share, and discuss with others who may or may not have had similar experiences.

I'm glad posts like the above are a rare occurrence here on ATS, and thank you to the others who replied without a rabid attitude.

a reply to: standingwave


Having respect for the opinions of others is an ATS golden rule, but is more like an ideal. The ability to shrug off the negativity of some is hard, and thus the conflicts.

That is unlikely to change, so you need a good helmet AND as much whit as you can muster to deal with it.
That is how this place survives!

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: InTheLight
Very interesting theory if gravitational waves distort time and sound (waves?).

Well, if gravity is essentially the same as acceleration, then a person might experience a kind of "Doppler Shift" near an area of spacetime that has a distorted localized gravity. Then (if you thought of time as having a kind of frequency like light or EM waves) the closer you got to the object, the more time might seem to slow down.

Maybe. Acceleration without motion. Traveling without moving. Like the Holtzman Effect from "Dune."

Or something similar to what we saw in the movie 'Interstellar'(?).



bigthink.com...

a reply to: InTheLight

Your post immediately struck a cord with me. When I was a kid, I saw what looked like a spaceship/rocketship sort of thing. As a kid, I wondered what the heck it was, it was my first sighting. To my kid mind, I thought it was a translucent craft that was brightly lit on the inside. The way you put it seems like it might be the same type thing. After that, I started being more interested in UFO stuff and began reading what I could on it.

I have no idea why some people see them and some don't. I don't presume that I'm so special as to be "chosen", but I started having experiences with unexplained things before I was even old enough to have been influenced. I truly didn't understand stuff. It was after the experiences that I would try to learn more, trying to make sense of it. Could it be that (someone) something wants to draw us in, to know, about them?

originally posted by: Ellie Sagan
a reply to: InTheLight

Your post immediately struck a cord with me. When I was a kid, I saw what looked like a spaceship/rocketship sort of thing. As a kid, I wondered what the heck it was, it was my first sighting. To my kid mind, I thought it was a translucent craft that was brightly lit on the inside. The way you put it seems like it might be the same type thing. After that, I started being more interested in UFO stuff and began reading what I could on it.

I have no idea why some people see them and some don't. I don't presume that I'm so special as to be "chosen", but I started having experiences with unexplained things before I was even old enough to have been influenced. I truly didn't understand stuff. It was after the experiences that I would try to learn more, trying to make sense of it. Could it be that (someone) something wants to draw us in, to know, about them?

My first sighting that I can recall was when I was 8 years old and, yes, the inside was extremely bright or at least brighter than daytime light on a sunny day (which it was a sunny day that day) and although the metal was definitely not translucent it glimmered or was energized. We all here are trying to make sense of it because if were a delusion (and that would be the only delusion(s) I ever experienced in my life) then why haven't I had another alien craft delusion in 40 years or any other type of mental illness event?

Another thought - perhaps the reason for the implants is not only for tracking purposes but may provide some sort of quantum connection(?).

a reply to: standingwave

As a long time lurker this type of post is what originally brought me to ATS. Thank you for making ATS great again. I love this post with all of my cold, dead heart! I think I have witnessed enough to make an under-educated opinion that these are nuts and bolts craft that are slicing into our dimension. We get distorted pics and video and what I always see is about the same, distorted. If you would like your mind blown I suggest searching for a man that does experiments called BENT LIGHT.

a reply to: vlawde
If you read David Paulides books about missing people and look at their scenarios it is the only thing that fits the bill. It screams another dimension.

a reply to: standingwave

The otherworlders use lighted fiery orbs during nighttime for a number of reasons: Besides scaring the hell out of everybody --- Use of fiery fusion plasma as a source of fuel for their nuts an bolts starships, that are safely encased inside it; in places that lack other sources of photons --- A magnetically contained fusion plasma shield that protects the starship for any weapons that we can throw at them --- Burning away any brush and sterilizing the landing spot.

Offensively? A weapon of mass destruction...

Use of thousand of tons of generated electrified fusion plasma on targets that deserve it.

a reply to: standingwave

If by Rock Star intel you mean Tom Delonge, I wouldn't lean too much faith on that angle. The guy is a fraud as are those he is involved in. They know how to squeeze a penny out of adoring fans. He pays them to be allowed to use their names as his associates. No evidence to support this of course but a monkey could see it from a mile off.

a reply to: seaswine

Holy #, Where was that? What kind of images/music?

originally posted by: Oldhabits
No evidence to support this of course but a monkey could see it from a mile off.

So that is your very first ATS post.

Let me quote part of your second post:
"he will learn about it behind bars as he serves time for fraud."

Isn't that like blaming Santa Claus for Christmas?

Looks like either Tom laid your girlfriend or you are being paid by a subsidiary of the government.

This is a very good point. What seems to have been lost on our sci fi is that if you used a time machine...taking you to the exact point but deep in the past...you would be floating in space or worse.
The earth is always moving. Unless you can get it just....right..you're f***ed. Easier to time travel in a space craft and then scoot over to where the planet is at the time you travelled to.

a reply to: standingwave

Posts like this are why ATS was made.

Brilliant.

originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: standingwave


Having respect for the opinions of others is an ATS golden rule, but is more like an ideal. The ability to shrug off the negativity of some is hard, and thus the conflicts.

That is unlikely to change, so you need a good helmet AND as much whit as you can muster to deal with it.
That is how this place survives!

The positives here greatly outweigh the negatives, that also help in keeping a good attitude.

a reply to: THEUPSIDEDOWN

Thanks a bunch! What adds to the complication is the connection with our own psych and also the mastery of our material world, such as flying through water without effort, ect. Its like childs play to them.

originally posted by: Erno86
a reply to: standingwave

The otherworlders use lighted fiery orbs during nighttime for a number of reasons: Besides scaring the hell out of everybody --- Use of fiery fusion plasma as a source of fuel for their nuts an bolts starships, that are safely encased inside it; in places that lack other sources of photons --- A magnetically contained fusion plasma shield that protects the starship for any weapons that we can throw at them --- Burning away any brush and sterilizing the landing spot.

Offensively? A weapon of mass destruction...

Use of thousand of tons of generated electrified fusion plasma on targets that deserve it.

That my explain the "ship" portion, but we also have to include what other effects they are capable of. Telepathy, ect. The two are tightly intertwined.

originally posted by: Oldhabits
a reply to: standingwave

If by Rock Star intel you mean Tom Delonge, I wouldn't lean too much faith on that angle. The guy is a fraud as are those he is involved in. They know how to squeeze a penny out of adoring fans. He pays them to be allowed to use their names as his associates. No evidence to support this of course but a monkey could see it from a mile off.

Yes that rockstar. The whole commercial aspect of what he is doing, the build up of " hey I got this information Im gonna release soon" ect, just doesnt set right with me. Actually, any type of commercialization of this subject just seems flat out wrong. If you have something , do us all a favor and come out with it. Dont try to sell me a t-shirt. The subject is much more important than this.

originally posted by: LambertSimnel
This is a very good point. What seems to have been lost on our sci fi is that if you used a time machine...taking you to the exact point but deep in the past...you would be floating in space or worse.
The earth is always moving. Unless you can get it just....right..you're f***ed. Easier to time travel in a space craft and then scoot over to where the planet is at the time you travelled to.

However, I dont think that merging with material elements is a problem for these "travel containers" or whatever they are. They have no problem traveling into and out of water with no impediment at all.

originally posted by: CollateralDramage
a reply to: standingwave

Posts like this are why ATS was made.

Brilliant.