The evidence for remote viewing is OVERWHELMING

I just watched a Documentary called Third Eye Spies and it was great. Here's the trailer:



Here's the description:

Synopsis: Two physicists discover psychic abilities are real only to have their experiments at Stanford co-opted by the CIA and their research silenced by the demands of secrecy. Yet, as both these 'remote viewers' and our audience learn, the 'more you hide something, the more it shines like a beacon in psychic space and this ancient truth can no longer be suppressed.' The true story of Russell Targ and America's cold war psychic spies, disclosed and declassified for the first time, with evidence presented by a Nobel Laureate, an Apollo Astronaut, and the military and scientific community that has been suppressed for nearly 30 years, now able to speak for the first time. Targ's understated mantra that "the evidence for extra sensory perception is overwhelming and shows a talent we all share and deserve to know about, leaves us not just with a greater understanding of this unique chapter in U.S. history, but perhaps most importantly a greater understanding of who we are and our larger connection to the world. The CIA, NSA and DIA used it, your tax dollars paid for it, and now you deserve to know about it.

If remote viewing didn't help, why was the program funded for 23 years?

If there was nothing to this, in a year you would just scrap it.

One of the guys, Joseph McMoneagle received the Legion of Merit Award that talked about how his "powers" gave them useful intelligence. Here's more about the award:

The Legion of Merit (LOM) is a military award of the United States Armed Forces that is given for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding services and achievements. The decoration is issued to members of the seven uniformed services of the United States[5] as well as to military and political figures of foreign governments.

en.wikipedia.org...

Why give a guy doing remote viewing this award when remote viewing doesn't work? Here's a video of Joe:



Here's a video released by Stanford Research Institute of Uri Gellar doing RV in 1972.



Amazing stuff.

This is a Video of Mentalist Derren Brown who was out to debunk RV. In the video you can see the RV was right about some key things. Look at the woman who was the RV target. You can see the surprise on her face when he talked about the fountain and the sculptures. She was standing in front of a fountain with a sculpture around buildings he was describing.

You can tell she was supposed to debunk him because that's what Derren does and she looked at him like I have to be truthful. She would have given him higher marks but Derren gave her that look.



Here's an interview with President Jimmy Carter on this:

GQ: One of the promises you made in 1976 was that if you were elected, you would look into the reports from Roswell and see if there had been any cover-ups. Did you look into that?

Carter: Well, in a way. I became more aware of what our intelligence services were doing. There was only one instance that I’ll talk about now. We had a plane go down in the Central African Republic—a twin-engine plane, small plane. And we couldn’t find it. And so we oriented satellites that were going around the earth every ninety minutes to fly over that spot where we thought it might be and take photographs. We couldn’t find it. So the director of the CIA came and told me that he had contacted a woman in California that claimed to have supernatural capabilities. And she went in a trance, and she wrote down latitudes and longitudes, and we sent our satellite over that latitude and longitude, and there was the plane.

GQ: That must have been surreal for you. You’re the president of the United States, and you’re getting intelligence information from a woman in a trance in California.

Carter: That’s exactly right.

www.lookingglassnews.org...

Here's Jessica Utts talking about this. First let me tell you about Utts.

Jessica Utts is Professor and Chair of Statistics at the University of California – Irvine. She is a Fellow of the American Statistical Association and a recipient of a Founders Award from ASA. She has been elected as President of ASA for the year 2016.

She's one of the top Statistician's in the Country. Here's the video of Dr. Utts



Here's one from Russell Targ that was abanned TED talk



Here's more from Utts:

Using the standards applied to any other area of science, it is concluded that psychic functioning has been well established. The statistical results of the studies examined are far beyond what is expected by chance. Arguments that these results could be due to methodological flaws in the experiments are soundly refuted. Effects of similar magnitude to those found in government-sponsored research at SRI and SAIC have been replicated at a number of laboratories across the world. Such consistency cannot be readily explained by claims of flaws or fraud.

www.ics.uci.edu...

The sad thing is, pseudoskepticism. Too many people in positions of power are pseudoskeptics. If there's anything that doesn't fit their belief in materialism, they want to ridicule it and blindly shut it down.

Kit Green.

He knows

Nope not blindly shutting it out

R V is real, so is conjuring spirits

But don't do it....dude

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Nope not blindly shutting it out

R V is real, so is conjuring spirits

But don't do it....dude

Why?

You clearly have some experience, please share!

I feel like it would be useful and healthy for people to know your own experience

Please share, i know it's very hard to put it out on a forum but i would really like to know, and i guess plenty other people as well would like to hear your own experience

originally posted by: neoholographic
The sad thing is, pseudoskepticism. Too many people in positions of power are pseudoskeptics. If there's anything that doesn't fit their belief in materialism, they want to ridicule it and blindly shut it down.

How does that fit in with 23 years of military research? Seems a little inconsistent.

But you are right we will ridicule things that don't fit with our own theories.

The trust you place in uri gellar is just as laughable to me as my trust in derren brown is to you.

Personally I think the 23 years of research is more disinfo to spook other governments, I think the same about roswell though so what do I know.

Damn this pseudoskepticism!

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Nope not blindly shutting it out

R V is real, so is conjuring spirits

But don't do it....dude

Conjuring spirits is fine... Only people with a predisposition to schizophrenia will develop fully blown schizophrenia by believing people can conjure spirits.

OP, the name Uri Geller in your post tells me you haven't heard of him, or have, yet still believe he's legit. Either way, bon appetit...

originally posted by: Malisa

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Nope not blindly shutting it out

R V is real, so is conjuring spirits

But don't do it....dude

Why?

You clearly have some experience, please share!

I feel like it would be useful and healthy for people to know your own experience

Please share, i know it's very hard to put it out on a forum but i would really like to know, and i guess plenty other people as well would like to hear your own experience

It's hard for people who have seen the "other side" to put it into words. Both because describing it is nearly impossible, and it tends to "trigger" the emotions you felt at that time which can be quite awful.

It may simply be our imaginations running wild, but messing with stuff beyond our understanding is a big no-no from me.

0/10 recommend

a reply to: gallop

You said:

OP, the name Uri Geller in your post tells me you haven't heard of him, or have, yet still believe he's legit. Either way, bon appetit...

The video was of experiments carried out by Stanford Research Institute. Gellar had no say or control in the experiments. So what people think about Gellar is irrelevant. It's Gellar in context with the other evidence for remote viewing.

Who knows, Gellar may be a poor Psychic but good at remote viewing. As Utts said, they're 2 different things. A person can be a good at RV but they're horrible when they try to display psychic abilities.

As they say in the video, this isn't about any psychic abilities that Gellar claims to have. These are blind and double blind experiments.

So Gellar could be a good remote viewer who thinks he's Psychic. So anything outside of the SRI experiments associated with Gellar, will not be believed or posted by me.

originally posted by: seaswine

originally posted by: Malisa

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Nope not blindly shutting it out

R V is real, so is conjuring spirits

But don't do it....dude

Why?

You clearly have some experience, please share!

I feel like it would be useful and healthy for people to know your own experience

Please share, i know it's very hard to put it out on a forum but i would really like to know, and i guess plenty other people as well would like to hear your own experience

It's hard for people who have seen the "other side" to put it into words. Both because describing it is nearly impossible, and it tends to "trigger" the emotions you felt at that time which can be quite awful.

It may simply be our imaginations running wild, but messing with stuff beyond our understanding is a big no-no from me.

0/10 recommend

Indeed it is, but there are people who have gone through stuff that kind of brought light or "understand it of it"

There's even people here on ATS that have gone through it. I mean it's not like an absolute thing but it surely gives a path to think about it

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: neoholographic
The sad thing is, pseudoskepticism. Too many people in positions of power are pseudoskeptics. If there's anything that doesn't fit their belief in materialism, they want to ridicule it and blindly shut it down.

How does that fit in with 23 years of military research? Seems a little inconsistent.

But you are right we will ridicule things that don't fit with our own theories.

The trust you place in uri gellar is just as laughable to me as my trust in derren brown is to you.

Personally I think the 23 years of research is more disinfo to spook other governments, I think the same about roswell though so what do I know.

Damn this pseudoskepticism!

The problem that many of us have with this is that we're good that the government was successful with remote viewing, but that's it. Nothing else. A person on YouTube makes claims, but offers no actual evidence. They can't even find a remote viewer to give a demonstration. You can go to a world of the weird show at your town fair and see a psychic tell you what you have in your back pocket, or what cards you have in your wallet, and any stage magician worth their salt can guess your card, yet no remote viewer has ever given a successful public demonstration.

People have at least gotten pictures of bigfoot, but not of a remote viewer.

I did come across one book about Stanford Research Institute and the studies that where going on around the 70's - 80's before it all got shut down and went dark. Wall street and the military grabbed the project as it was producing results.

It's natural selection at work. If you can get a better sense of the future and what is going on than the other guy you generally do better. Very handy skill in survival situations. It is a complicated world we live in with many different forces at play. Not sure about anyone getting it 100% right all of the time. For those that do push these boundaries it give less competition if the masses just think its all bunk.

a reply to: Malisa

You're not wrong, and I have gone through it myself.

Unfortunately, the only advice/support I can give is that anyone going through it, you aren't crazy. If you need an ear, pm me.

originally posted by: seaswine
a reply to: Malisa

You're not wrong, and I have gone through it myself.

Unfortunately, the only advice/support I can give is that anyone going through it, you aren't crazy. If you need an ear, pm me.

It's hard to explain right? I'm not the one that had that experience but my little sis had

I'll send you a PM, thank you < 3

attempting to Prove that You have RV/AP or Psychic ability to disclose some Future event ….

Is like Pushing on a String

the way to Push-on-a-string is to wet the string, freeze it, then you can ~push the string~ if you act quickly

a reply to: neoholographic
Humans are so out of touch with their innate intuitive and perceptive abilities, we are like babies who haven't yet learned they are bi-pedal and can walk rather than crawl to their destination. There's nothing "supernatural" about clairvoyance, which is what remote viewing is, we all have the ability to varying degrees, it's just a matter of acknowledgement, learning, and practice.

a reply to: neoholographic

This is my third attempt to chime in on this topic..I keep hitting the x button on my browser. So this is the condensed version.

CIA-RDP96-007877R000700100001-5
October 1973
Proposal for Research
SRI-No ISH 73-146
Page 18
Section B. EEG Experiments
"One premise underlying our investigation is that paranormal functioning is distributed throughout the population in much the same manner as every other ability, and indeed in much the same way as intelligence is distributed. We further conjecture that it is partially the "world view" of the times in which we live that prevents paranormal ability from surfacing to a greater extent."

This document was submitted after the Stanford Research Institute had conducted a series of tests that concluded that this was indeed a viable skill that was worthy of additional investigation. It would not do this topic justice if I merely described what was successfully completed. You the reader should look up this document and read the document in its entirety. It is fascinating!

There is one skill that most parent posses and that having a bad feeling when your child is in trouble. This is often referred to as parent intuition and we do not go any further than that...it is not questioned or discredited. Some of us has also experienced the gaze from another while in a room or perhaps on the street. How do we pick up this signal? If there is no physical contact how do we know we are being watched? I think on a very rudimentary scale we have these abilities but shrug them off as normal behavior.

a reply to: neoholographic

Russell Targ says, "We no longer have to apologize for ESP" (love it!).



I successfully remote viewed once, but by doing so I invaded another person's privacy, which I felt was a wrong thing to do, so I have never attempted it again.

Although, in the video, Russell Targ explains that remote viewing can be used to locate lost objects, I am not sure if he equates remote viewing applications as psychic (ESP) applications or if it is all the same thing, because he includes healing within the remote viewing application.

I could not locate my passport so I tried psychically to see if I could see it in its position in space and time and three locations came to my mind, the last being either jammed in my books or papers. I searched through my books and some areas where I collect papers; there are many areas of papers which I keep separated for various reasons. I recently found it jammed in some papers when I wasn't looking for it.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: neoholographic
Humans are so out of touch with their innate intuitive and perceptive abilities, we are like babies who haven't yet learned they are bi-pedal and can walk rather than crawl to their destination. There's nothing "supernatural" about clairvoyance, which is what remote viewing is, we all have the ability to varying degrees, it's just a matter of acknowledgement, learning, and practice.

The problem with RV, and why I'm so skeptical, is that nobody can explain how a person can look at a map or a photograph and then translate that into a real world location to view remotely.

If I give you a map and stick a pin in it, and tell you to draw me whatever you see at that location, what mechanism do you use to determine where that location is in relation to yourself? How do you know if it's 100 miles away, or 105 miles? How do you target the location in three dimensional spaces allowing for the curvature of the earth?

And if I show you a picture, what do you compare it to? Do you look at every location from every angle until you find a match?

Franlky, I'm more willing the believe that remote viewers are simply reading people's minds to see what they already know is there and tricking them into thinking that its remote viewing, or altering their perception I some other way to make people think that they are right.

Telepathy is simply reading electromagnetic impulses, it's nice and scientific, but RV isn't explainable using known paranormal or supernatural phenomona, or science.

a reply to: neoholographic

While I believe there is something to it I also believe that those whom can practice this with anything even remotely (no pun intended) approaching ease are an extreme minority, even the talented ones usually rely upon sensory deprivation booth's.

The likes of Joseph McMoneagle had to use such sensory deprivation and He was whittled down from thousands of potential candidates whom were tested and rejected, he was actually many magnitudes more sensitive and accurate than the scam artists at the private company that makes thing's up to sell to the public called the farsight institute - so do not confuse real military and real psychic's with them or even attempt to compare them though can you blame them when after all new age believers will pay hundreds for a lump of worthless rock on a string because it is supposed to enhance there aura they are merely capitalizing on the new age mentality and void left as people have fallen away from organised religion - but they are still snake charm salesmen in my opinion.

So there is something to it, my mother was definitely psychic and she would have visions and nightmares before there was a tragedy somewhere in the world such as seeing waves and people screaming and destruction before the Tsunami swept over Asia half a world away from us, my mother also had post death experience (NDE need not apply my mother was dead on the operating room table and came back to look after her kid's but she saw the Lord's mother calling her and when she looked at her she remembered her children so ran back in this other world down the mountain she had been ascending, down through a dark valley then up a smaller mountain and down the other side to come back to life - the doctor was just finishing up and about to declare her dead when her heart started to beat again and she woke.

In my opinion what is wrongly termed extra sensory perception is actually a state were part of us is awake in the other world were we are all supposed to go WHILE our body's are still alive.

The human being has a whole load of faculty's which we have become untuned and numb to such as this story.
thespiritscience.net...
Which makes a whole load more sense when you remember this.

If a leaf has such an aura how much more our hair and body's.

a reply to: neoholographic

Nice post....

I'll see if I can recall this story correctly. I was at the IRVA conference (International Remote Viewing Assosiation) in Vegas several years ago with my son. And one of the presenters a Doctor who was researching near death experiences in childern under because they had the least cultural bias. He was doing some experiments with a remote viewer. Now the doctor is in Seatle, and the remote viewer is in Chicago. They were in contact on the phone initialy to get the session setup.

The doctor ask the remote viewer what was on the coffee table (or end table by the phone?) when the doctor's two year old daughter walked into the room. The daughter was getting ready to have a litte tea party. She turned to the coffee table and ask the remote veiwer if he would like to join her tea party. Appartly she could see him! (the remote viewer). Although the doctor could not.

So is remote veiwing some kind of out of body experience? If you have read some of the CIA remote viewing docs. where they remote viewed activity on the moon. And found mining activity. The beings there noticed they were being viewed. Ingo Swan talks about this in one of his books. I think it is "Penetration," because I have only read a couple of them. Ingo Swan was the "father" of remote viewing, as he was the guy that got things going at Stanford with Russel Targ and Hal Putoff. If you fish around the web, you can find a free PDF of the Penetration book. (a quick seach found this: ediovision.blogspot.com...)...Ingo is an interesting character.

About RV (remote viewing), everyone can do it. Some are naturally better than others, but with training everyone can improve. I use to say it is like running. But that is over simplifying it. It is more like playing the guitar or something like that. Anyone can pick up the guitar and strum it to make music, but it takes parctice and some skill to make real music. And like my running analogy, some people will never be an olympic athele, but they will improve...natural talent/ability as a starting point is a factor, but it can be developed and learned by everyone. It was probably part of our survival skills in days past.

FYI, if anyone is interested. Every year in June the IRVA conference (International Remote Viewing Assosiation) is held in Las Vegas. I only went once with my son years ago, but it was fun, and very interesting. I was always interested in the topic since I first herad about it back in the 70s when it started, but was a little skeptical. I had forgotten about it for years until my son had bought it to my attention several years ago. He convinced me to take him to the conference. I'm glad we did. They ran several experiments that we particpated in that really convinced me to the reality of remote viewing. It is real.

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