Looking For The Illuminati

a reply to: WanderingMrM

I am the Illuminati and the Truth is subjective.

a reply to: miri2019

How would you know if hes on side or otherwise, considering the silence?

Big dude don't say much, benevolence/malevolence aside, the guys an absentee parent that seems to want all our monies.

Is child support not supposed to work the other way around?

For my take on the matter, our organized religious practice requires obedience which is not a virtue, even if it is a very useful skill where control is concerned, but its cultivated as a virtue which is utterly deleterious.

It is not virtuous to obey, it is virtuous to do the right thing.

a reply to: andy06shake

I don't know anyhthing about religious books since I don't read them. Only speak from personal experience.

Whether I've known it or not, I've always been in the middle of the battle between the forces of light and dark.

Seems like some game or something to them at least but to me the pain of loss and regret is all too real.

People, or other beings should not be punished or separated from eachother cause one person failed a test and you know that's just the way the universe works. I will never go along with that game and will rebel forever until souls that desire to be with one another are reconciled in holy union.

Freedom, goodness, peace, and love should always be there for those who truly desire it.

I guess now I will always rebel until that hope is manifested into an eternal reality.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
a reply to: WanderingMrM

If you want answers you're going to have to do your own research on such a secret society. Starting with their history. They are aristocrats and the name "Illuminati" is just an overused Internet/Hollywood coined term. You have to be born & breed into it.

The term Illuminati, is the plural of the Latin, Illuminatus, meaning "one who is illuminated." Thus, it means a person who has received the full extent of the initiation that is available through Freemasonry.

They have many names belonging to a dozen different secret societies. They are masters of infiltration on pursuing their insatiable lust for wealth & power. They worship Mammon (Beelzebub > Baal), not God.

The orgins - One of the best history threads on ATS is All Roads Lead to Rome.

The individuals in question are (left to right) American banker David Rockefeller, US diplomat and national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, bankers Evelyn and Jacob Rothschild, Hungarian-American investor George Soros, and South African businessman Nicky Oppenheimer.

In addition there are four spectral figures in the background, who represent the banksters’ “Illuminati forefathers”. They are (left to right) prominent 19th-century Freemason Albert Pike, German banker and politician Mayer Carl Freiherr von Rothschild, Illuminati founder Adam Weishaupt, and Mayer Amschel de Rothschild, who established the Rothschild banking dynasty.

Here's a labrynith of info...
The Illuminati - Order of The Illumined Wise Men

Wow!
Very descriptive
I've seen some of your posting's but this one led me to review your signature.
OUTSTANDING
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a reply to: LoneBird

Well, your sentiment seems to come correct.

As to the forces of light and dark, i suggest that is a Ying/Yan scenario.

The problems arise when what we assume to be diametrically opposed forces(light/dark) get out of kilter.

Balance seems to be the ticket.

Thing is if you can keep people off balance indirectly or otherwise, you can predict there next move more easily and control them from afar.

That's what money, banking houses, financial institutions, and corporations do aka the Illuminati.

a reply to: andy06shake

Hi Andy, first I don't think it's sensible to continue here this conversation, I'm afraid we'd derail this thread, break the T&Cs and the OP already complained about it. But given that you referred to me above, let me take a crack while I'm at it.

[Quoted below for context only]

How would you know if hes on side or otherwise, considering the silence?

Big dude don't say much, benevolence/malevolence aside, the guys an absentee parent that seems to want all our monies.

It's silence to the deaf, but not necessarily to all, but rest assured the Almighty is always an active silent Controller/Supervisor/Participant of every facet of this world we live in, down to the smallest detail. Now when the Lord speaks to a being, there's usually two end results: infinite happiness or a trip to the psyche unit (or worse). If you insist I can elaborate more in another proper thread about my own experience, especially the latter one.

"Big dude? Absentee? Monies?" ... What are you talking about, but offending* aside, the Divine speaks to a being that is kind, humble, open minded, receptive and tries hard to stay out of sin. To others He talks otherwise, usually they start talking aloud to "themselves", if they're lucky!

For my take on the matter, our organized religious practice requires obedience which is not a virtue, even if it is a very useful skill where control is concerned, but its cultivated as a virtue which is utterly deleterious.

I think you're talking about blind obedience here and I agree with you to a certain degree. But obedience is virtue when the right circumstances require it. When a parent advises his/her child about something dangerous and the child obeys to that advice, then here obedience is a virtue. As far as organized religions, being a product of human evolution, they have their own definite advantages for the humanity and their own big issues, exploiting human fear for their own profits is one of the big issues of the religions, but that's something for somewhere else.

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(*) Andy, take this (if you want) as a friend to friend - as I've mentioned before, please refrain yourself from demeaning the Divine, we pay dearly for cursing the Lord, that person will lick whatever he/she spat out against Him, no exceptions, the mellowest of which could be something very crude and primitive to be mentioned here. His punishment is divine (read *horrific*). Certain things haven't changed at all and never will.

Phrases like "I didn't know, I was young" or "everybody else was doing it" or some such, don't count when a being will stand in front of the Lord. When the Divine is sometimes angry with me, He talks harshly to me and I immediately go into a deep depression (like I have a tight steel ring is around my head), and if He is very angry with me, property damage usually ensues.

There are a few other things regarding the things I wrote here, which I'd like to share, but I'm not too compulsive divulging them and it depends how receptive the people are here.

P.S. Apologies to the OP for veering off the subject.

a reply to: WanderingMrM

I Think they are " Somewhere " Near the Bottom of the Upside Down Pyramid Bro........

a reply to: miri2019

Each to there own i suppose miri2019.

I say what i feel mate, God canny do much about it, and if it does exist i imagine it would wish me to question its existence and my own, bar a really fecking large inferiority complex.

Ile stick to fearing real things in this life as opposed anthropomorphized wana be masters in the next.

After all there is little point in getting ahead of ourselves.

I would not worry about derailing the opp to much as organized religious practice is just one of the many control constructs TPTB/Illuminati also wield to win the hearts and minds of our respective populations.

a reply to: andy06shake

I've no doubt Andy that we speak what we feel, and I like that. I think we know where we stand, so I have my things to say as well, but I'll wait for another time. I'll leave the table to the OP and other posters.
Best.

a reply to: miri2019

You to mate, all the best.

If you could show me God i would love that believe it or not.

Coz this world don't have any mystery left, its not that i don't have any interest in the next life if there is such a thing.

But anything less than my own pocket universe to shape and control, and i would probably be sadly disappointed.

Else what the point in learning right from wrong if not to shape our own perspective?

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow
If your names not Dan your not getting in.


Well that's what I heard!

a reply to: ManyMasks

Or "Ebeneezer Goode".

a reply to: andy06shake

I was alluding to the tribe of Dan that their bloodline is from and the shaman song which I always thought was Dan and not down.... And they have no name because if they had a name like the Illuminati then people would talk.
That's why they could be referred to as the club.


Seems there are messages everywhere in everything


So Back to the Shaman telling a truth

'If your names not Dan your not getting in" (the club)

Said the doorman!

a reply to: ManyMasks

Yeh strange thing is, i kind of got that.

Hence the reference.

On the ball and all that tonight ManyMasks.......and the Vodka, well me anyway. LoL

a reply to: andy06shake
Ohh mate the spirits are whispering in your ear.

Canny beat a bit of voodoo lol

a reply to: andy06shake

No problem then Andy, here is my take.

[ I joined your two postings together ]

I say what i feel mate, God canny do much about it, and if it does exist i imagine it would wish me to question its existence and my own, bar a really fecking large inferiority complex.

The Almighty can do and does a lot, without me and you being aware of that. There's a saying that goes somewhere along the lines: "While I was searching for God, He was near me all the time waiting for me".

You can absolutely question your existence and the Divine's one, but as I've said you do it in a kind, careful, modest and humble way. To ask God about his existence flat out, is a very very big dangerous thing, you go on your tiptoes when doing that, and to hope to find some answer you need to be freed from sin first, then patient, humble, and even then the answer will come gradually, bits after bits.

Have you ever tried to say sorry to God for your sins, transgressions and sacrileges? This is the first step to approach the Almighty - humble yourself. Consider God as a very very tough man, One that does not stand cockiness in front of Him, in fact he absolutely hates it and punishes it very harshly. God "likes" very much people with strong opinions and language and He will make Himself known sooner or later in one's life.

"... bar a really fecking large inferiority complex." -- inferiority complex ??!! No, no, no, you cannot absolutely talk like that and hope to find God that way. See above about modesty and controlling one's language.

Ile stick to fearing real things in this life as opposed anthropomorphized wana be masters in the next.

After all there is little point in getting ahead of ourselves.

You're not getting ahead of yourself when you're expanding your knowledge, so please learn as much as possible.

Even the unseen things are real and to be feared, and all the more reasons to fear God above *anything* else, seen or unseen.
"... anthropomorphized wana be masters" - *wana be masters* aside, let me say it again, Almighty is totally human (anthropomorphized) when He enters into a relationship with humans. He is kind, loving, happy, compassionate, demanding, encouraging, persistent, cautionary, angry, punishing. He likes to be called a Father when in such state.

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If you could show me God i would love that believe it or not.

Coz this world don't have any mystery left, its not that i don't have any interest in the next life if there is such a thing.

But anything less than my own pocket universe to shape and control, and i would probably be sadly disappointed.

Else what the point in learning right from wrong if not to shape our own perspective?

As far as showing God, see above on how to find Him.
There's still many mysteries in this world, just need to know where to look. I'm glad that you're interested in the next lives, I am too, and of course that there is such a thing. There's way too much material on youtube and web about past and future lives.

If I correctly understand you, I can assure you that you'll find many things that you never believed they existed, I have. Just need to be patient, persistent, open but selective to new ideas.

You to mate, all the best.

Thank you.

a reply to: WanderingMrM

where's the whispering voice coming from?

a reply to: unHolyGrail

From within, you want to practice hearing it?
Say someone says to you guess my star sign.
That split second before your mind thinks about it say the first thing that pops into your head, it's instantaneous . The subconscious knows all.

a reply to: WanderingMrM

Do you meditate at all?

originally posted by: WanderingMrM
I'm searching for them mostly because no one has been able to answer my questions and at times I dream about them which is strange but still I want to know why.

I know some of you will say it is better to not know and stay as far away as possible, yet I'm constantly being pushed into their direction and I can not explain it.

I guess this goes to any members or observers on here, "Vita Arcana" a phrase given to me by a whispering voice.

I want answers and need to know the truth!

If you're hearing a "whispering voice" ... then you have "ears to listen" ... google my signature ... you'll find a mystery. Also look at my response to "NNOOPPQQ" (ATS member). Be careful!