Nick Pope: Pentagon Is Keeping Secret Too Terrible To Be Told On Aerial Phenomenon

a reply to: kwakakev

I would say to log the exact location of the tested animal and results of that location .

originally posted by: kwakakev
You are lucky to get the government to test the water. If the government wanted these parts then why not got to the abattoir and get heaps of them a lot cheaper. There is a big cost with all the suspicious deaths and open to being sued.

Then they wouldn't be in situ. So if you were looking for a correlation between an animal's grazing location and, say, the spread of some nasty toxic or radioactive material, you wouldn't know specifically where they were exposed.

originally posted by: shawmanfromny
In case some of you missed it, Nick Pope was on Tucker Carlson tonight on FOX NEWS. Pope was employed at the British Government's Ministry of Defence (MoD) from 1985 to 2006. From 1991 to 1994 he investigated UFO sightings, in order to determine if they posed a threat to the UK.

Tonight, Pope talked about the unexplained, unidentified aerial phenomenon, seen in the FLIR1, Gimbal and GoFast videos. He is concerned with the Pentagon and US Navy's response to these unknown craft, that are interacting with aircraft carriers, which he describes as "billion-dollar assets." Pope believes that the US Navy should be more concerned and states, "if the official position of the most powerful Navy in the world is frankly little more than 'we don't know what this is', I don't think that's good enough."

Pope then concludes his interview with Tucker Carlson, by stating that somebody in the Pentagon must have an idea, or "a best assessment" on what these unknown craft are. When Tucker asks Pope why the Pentagon isn't letting the public know what it may know, Pope states, "some secret too terrible to be told."

Tom DeLonge implied in a tweet not too long ago that the truth was very disturbing.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Tom DeLonge implied in a tweet not too long ago that the truth was very disturbing.

Tom also has a book out and another one coming titled, "Sekret Machines: Gods, Man & War", Volumes 1 & 2.

In summary, Tom believes they are fallen angels that the ancients used to worship.

I agree. These are spiritual entities that have existed and been written about since the beginning of man.

a reply to: Deetermined

Do you have any scientific basis for believing this or are you just someone who just believes anything they want to?

a reply to: mirageman

I spent two whole days reading every interview of Tom DeLonge's I could find, plus I read up on every description and comment from his books that he's written.

ETA: If you're talking about my own personal research, I have spent days and weeks on the internet tracking down every abduction story, sighting, and everything else I could trying to prove something different, but never found it. When I found out that Luis Elizondo claimed that higher ups in the Pentagon thought they were of a demon/spiritual nature, it confirmed my belief.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Then they wouldn't be in situ. So if you were looking for a correlation between an animal's grazing location and, say, the spread of some nasty toxic or radioactive material, you wouldn't know specifically where they were exposed.

So where is the problem in talking to the farmer and taking a sample if this data is important? Where does the government think it has the right to do all these tests in secret? How much would it cost to cover all this testing up the way it has been done? Why put all the money into covering it up instead of just buying the cow? Why kill a whole cow for a small sample if this is all it is? We do not need all of the lip to test it?

a reply to: Deetermined

If you believe Luis Elizondo claims that people in the Pentagon thought they were spiritual/demonic in nature then that answers my question.

Thank you.

a reply to: Hunkadinka

That's pretty ignorant but hey you're just a noname and your opinion doesn't matter

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: kwakakev
You are lucky to get the government to test the water. If the government wanted these parts then why not got to the abattoir and get heaps of them a lot cheaper. There is a big cost with all the suspicious deaths and open to being sued.

Then they wouldn't be in situ. So if you were looking for a correlation between an animal's grazing location and, say, the spread of some nasty toxic or radioactive material, you wouldn't know specifically where they were exposed.

This kind of testing was practiced around places like Hanford. Its mentioned in the book Plutopia.
global.oup.com...

a reply to: mirageman

What question is that?

While Luis Elizondo claimed that higher ups in the Pentagon didn't want to fund the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program any more because they thought they were spiritual in nature, Elizondo never came out and said he belived that to be the case himself, but you have to wonder why he's teamed up with Tom DeLonge if they didn't share at least some of the same views.

Why else do you think Elizondo thinks that our government should release all of the information our government has so that we can decide for ourselves what to believe about what they are? I've asked this question over and over again, but no one ever seems to want to answer it.

"Is the United States Navy hiding evidence on UFO/USO's?"

"Ancient astronaut theorists say yes!"

Although they pretty much say yes to everything.

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: mirageman

What question is that?
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The one you previously answered.

a reply to: Deetermined

Let's see "Demon/spiritual nature" If this where to be true think of the effect it would have if the Public found out .

Your God is not what you have been told .

If they are Spiritual whats holding them back ?

a reply to: mirageman

You didn't answer my question. What are your thoughts on Luis Elizondo?

a reply to: Deetermined

I thought it was rhetorical?

You mean this was a question?

Why else do you think Elizondo thinks that our government should release all of the information our government has so that we can decide for ourselves what to believe about what they are? I've asked this question over and over again, but no one ever seems to want to answer it. ?

I have not seen where Elizondo said that your government should release all of the information your government has.

But if you want me to answer it then I would say this.

If he really spent the best part of a decade 2007- 2017 studying UFO threats to the United States as Director of AATIP as claimed then he's come over as a totally incompetent fool since he entered the private sector. He literally knows nothing about UFOs.

He was terrible articulating the Washington DC case in 1952 in Italy. Yet carried on with his embarrassingly factually incorrect presentation. Wrongly claiming there were photographs taken and mass sightings by the public. The helicopter case shown in the TV show Unidentified was even worse and has long been resolved.

If the Nimitz UFO case (which admittedly is still a mystery) was so important when he was performing some form of role as regards to AATIP/AAWSAAP then why did he not interview David Fravor until after he left the US DoD? He had over a decade previously to investigate.

This stinks from all sides. From the DoD and from TTSA crew.

a reply to: mirageman

If he really spent the best part of a decade 2007- 2017 studying UFO threats to the United States as Director of AATIP as claimed then he's come over as a totally incompetent fool since he entered the private sector. He literally knows nothing about UFOs.

I thought you already knew that. Plus, I thought I already posted this quote from Elizondo on one of your threads...

Next, the discussion delved into the big question everyone is wondering about: “Why do you think the government would continue to keep this perceived threat secret and hidden from the public when they’re so open with other threats, such as North Korea or possible pandemics?”

“When you’re talking about a potential threat that we don’t have any understanding at all of what it is, how it works, where it comes from, or who’s behind it, that’s a different conversation, because, as a national security instrument, we are paid to have those answers on behalf of the American people,” Lue explained. “We’ve been dealing with this problem for a long time, if not decades. And the fact that our government and other governments aren’t really any closer to understanding some of those basic interrogatives is very unsettling. So, naturally, people don’t want to have that conversation, especially the Department of Defense.”

mufon.z2systems.com...(1).pdf

a reply to: mirageman

I haven't taken the time to listen to this interview yet, but it appears to me as though Nick Pope has either been getting information from Elizondo, or someone else within the U.S. government where Elizondo worked. Maybe there's answers in there somewhere, but I'm doubting it. Pope and Elizondo stand to make more money keeping this a mystery.

Recently, Nick was able to obtain Department of Defense (DoD) files regarding Advanced Aerospace Identification Program (AATIP), often referred to as the Pentagon’s secret UFO project. These are some of the very few official releases of documents related to AATIP that have surfaced. In this episode, we discuss what is in the files and how he received them. Nick also explains what we can infer from the documents, and why they are significant.

www....(nolink)/nick-pope-recently-released-government-documents/42212

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: Blue Shift
So where is the problem in talking to the farmer and taking a sample if this data is important?

I'm not in charge of the operation, but let me speculate. In this case, the farmer might not be all that happy with finding out his land is a festering hotbed of deadly chemicals or viruses. He might not take it well. He would undoubtedly sue, or go to the press. Not a happy outcome.

Where does the government think it has the right to do all these tests in secret?

They don't have the right, and that's why they do it in secret, perhaps.

How much would it cost to cover all this testing up the way it has been done? Why put all the money into covering it up instead of just buying the cow?

Again, this may be something particularly nasty and you want to keep it on the down low for as long as possible, including forever, if you can. Toxic cleanup, including buying thousands of acres of contaminated land? Millions? Billions?

Why kill a whole cow for a small sample if this is all it is? We do not need all of the lip to test it?

You would probably want to get an idea about absorption rates. So you'd take tissue from around the face, the mouth and eyes. Places with mucus membranes. Then you'd want to measure where it comes out of the cow, the udders, anus, etc. That might give you a rough idea as to how much of the "whatever" the animal has absorbed.

Like I said, I'm not in charge, but these all seem like reasonable, rational reasons to conduct secret tests and let the "aliens" take the fall for them.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Stunning Video of Cigar UFO in Orlando, Florida


Going into the unknown is a tricky situation full of doubt and uncertainty.

Who every is doing it has some explaining to do. Why the government is doing nothing about the cow if they are ones flying these things there has some explaining to do as well.