What really hit Saudi oil facilities?

a reply to: LoveSolMoonDeath
looks more like solar burst,just like in Paradise California and a few other unexplained fires

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath
Anyone have reliable sources on what drone tech was used in the recent attacks by the (up to now) Houthis? Is it long range flying deep penetrating hardware or locally launched smaller ones? What are the options for protection of large facilities? Are they kamikaze (one shot) or payload rince and repeat?

Ideas?

Thanks

Jeff

They call them drones, but in reality these are esentailly commercially available remote controlled model aircraft with gasoline powered engine that have been adapted to carry a payload. Isis has been using them for years. A while back they deliberately crashed some near a base in iraq, the local military picked up the wreckage and brought it back for analysis only to find out that there was a time bomb inside. Boom, it was pretty effective.


The truth is that you could make one of these things using parts brought from hobby stores. Iran doesn't even he'd to be a factor. Any good model aircraft enthusiast could make them and fly them with a transmitter and an iPhone app.

www.dronethusiast.com...

We can work with ten pounds....what kind of pop can you get out of ten lbs of payload?.....because you can order these off the shelf.

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath
Anyone have reliable sources on what drone tech was used in the recent attacks by the (up to now) Houthis? Is it long range flying deep penetrating hardware or locally launched smaller ones? What are the options for protection of large facilities? Are they kamikaze (one shot) or payload rince and repeat?

Ideas?

Thanks

Jeff

An Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander said on Sunday that U.S. bases and aircraft carriers in the region were within range of Iranian missiles after the U.S. accused Iran of leading attacks on Saudi oil plants, raising tensions in the Middle East.

You got a reply from the commander of the Revolutionary Guards.

a reply to: one4all

Repurposed ICBM carrying cube satellites?

a reply to: Slichter

Well as we can see the expected small patterns in the financial realm are not evolving as they should be....no one of major importance has stirred the Global Martini this time....its small operators.....looking for small returns trying to copycat TPTB on a micro-scale...using the exact same processes.

Nothing to see here IMHO>….not enough market recompense for it to be anything or anyone notable.....lack of meaningful impacts in the bigger picture... like the Somalis in old wooden fishing boats with no food or water holding Oil Tankers for Ransom…..lol.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Pretty much, Houthi rebels who are back by Iran have been using these drones to attack Saudi pipelines and oil plants since July 2018, the drones are cheap and cheerful versions of Iranian Quasef 1: www.aljazeera.com... ... they've since 'advanced' independently to using off the shelf drones with magnetic explosives so the drones can be re-used.

Saudi Air Force and the US have been bombing the houthis for several years, US weapons given to Saudi were then given to several extreme islamic terrorist groups (Salafi Millitias and Al-Quida linked fighters in the ongoing proxy war between Saudi and UAE. Bolton and Pompeo are just removing any of the context and facts so they can beat the war drum and continue ramping up propaganda for a US invasion of Iran.

Strangely enough the propaganda campaign comes just three days after the US Congress passed a motion to stop selling weapons to Saudi in the Yemen conflict until Saudi stop selling them on to Yemeni proxy fighters. It's the second or third time congress have passed the bills but Trump vetoed the previous ones.

Tl;dr - It's an incredibly complex ongoing 60 year old proxy war with at least 30 countries involved that US war hawks and neo-cons are desperately trying to paint Iran as behind every attack/retaliation/event that occurs.

a reply to: ServiusTull This just opened up a new form of terrorism.

Debris from what appears to be a Quds-1 cruise missile was apparently found in the desert, but there's nothing to show where or when. There have also been reports of Sammad UAVs used from the UAE t.o monitor and attack targets in Saudi Arabia, as well as Qasaf-1 UAVs.

theaviationist.com...

originally posted by: Advantage
Iran paints their drones red... makes 'em go faster and look all badass. If the drones were red, they were for sure from Iran.

I can see the CNN anchor wearing a helmet and gas mask reporting on the "Red Iranian Drones" he personally witnessed from the cocktail lounge of the hotel.

a reply to: Zaphod58



I was thinking this suicide drone the Kalashnikov.
But I see you are on getting proper info as usual.👍
I figured since it was Iran, they made a deal with Russia.
www.rbth.com...



Edit: but it probably doesn't have enough kick.

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Could anyone tell me what evidence has Pompeo got that proves Iran was responsible? Or is it just hot air on his part?

a reply to: crayzeed

The Houthi are using Iranian supplied UAVs and missiles.

just in time for the FOMC

call options on oil companies, short Saudi and buy gold miners AUY specifically

it were US cruicemissiles as retalliation for the saudi 9/11 attack...

a reply to: one4all

hmm 5 lbs c4 gives an bang?

a reply to: Zaphod58
The Saudis are using US based ordinance but the media is not shouting "US attacked Yemen". Where they got the equipment from is not proof the suppliers are responsible.

I'm thinking the oil in Israel in two or 3 separate locations......has a hook set in Russia's jaws

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Somebody wants a war and I bet it's not Iran. Don;t the Saudis have a whole bunch of new US military gear they need to try out? Like $60 Billion worth? It would take more than random strikes by drones to set off explosions like these to cripple and entire facility. Someone knew the right targets and what to hit them with, far more sophisticated than any Houthi rebels could conjure up I'd bet.

a reply to: crayzeed

Of course they are, just not in the US media. We were supplying in flight refueling to the Saudi's until someone realized how bad that looked.

a reply to: ressiv

If you snuck into area 51 the year Albert Einstein died and made it out alive you might remember what kind of technology Iranian military strategists were interested in back then. Iran wasn't known for JP7 development projects.