The Gimbal UFO What happened in the Rest of the video?

originally posted by: mirageman
It looks very likely that the Gimbal and GoFast vdieos were both taken from the same Navy aircraft.

Sensor overlays both show a four digit code [1688 illustrated in the shots below] on the right hand side. Which shows the "PRF" code for laser guided munitions specific to an individual aircraft.

So although it's still unconfirmed at present, it seems both videos came from the same F-18 timed to around 16 minutes apart.

Which begs a number of questions. One being where is the missing 16 minutes?

If I'm correct I believe these were from 2015 off the coast of Virginia Beach (I live in Norfolk) with the pilots being either from our local Oceana Air Base or Norfolk Naval Base. The tic tac UFO is from the Nimitz, off the west coast.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Upon what do you base your opinions?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MissSmartypants

You can tell me.
I don't might if you have to kill me afterwards.

Unh uh. I don't wanna.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MissSmartypants

Upon what do you base your opinions?

You mean my speculations. I base them on what I desire people to believe, just like everyone else.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

You base your opinions on a desire to manipulate the thinking of others?

That's pretty twisted.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MissSmartypants

You base your opinions on a desire to manipulate the thinking of others?

That's pretty twisted.

Not if I'm sure I'm right. Enlightening is more accurate. It's a public service. And you're welcome.

originally posted by: MissSmartypants

originally posted by: mirageman
It looks very likely that the Gimbal and GoFast vdieos were both taken from the same Navy aircraft.

Sensor overlays both show a four digit code [1688 illustrated in the shots below] on the right hand side. Which shows the "PRF" code for laser guided munitions specific to an individual aircraft.

So although it's still unconfirmed at present, it seems both videos came from the same F-18 timed to around 16 minutes apart.

Which begs a number of questions. One being where is the missing 16 minutes?

If I'm correct I believe these were from 2015 off the coast of Virginia Beach (I live in Norfolk) with the pilots being either from our local Oceana Air Base or Norfolk Naval Base. The tic tac UFO is from the Nimitz, off the west coast.

Could it be that the Gimbal and the GoFast are the same UFO?

originally posted by: MissSmartypants

originally posted by: MissSmartypants

originally posted by: mirageman
It looks very likely that the Gimbal and GoFast vdieos were both taken from the same Navy aircraft.

Sensor overlays both show a four digit code [1688 illustrated in the shots below] on the right hand side. Which shows the "PRF" code for laser guided munitions specific to an individual aircraft.

So although it's still unconfirmed at present, it seems both videos came from the same F-18 timed to around 16 minutes apart.

Which begs a number of questions. One being where is the missing 16 minutes?

If I'm correct I believe these were from 2015 off the coast of Virginia Beach (I live in Norfolk) with the pilots being either from our local Oceana Air Base or Norfolk Naval Base. The tic tac UFO is from the Nimitz, off the west coast.

Could it be that the Gimbal and the GoFast are the same UFO?

The first tic-tac video came from the USS Nimitz off the coast of California, and was one of many cited the same time. The gymbal UFO came from the USS Roosevelt off the East Coast. At least one of those encounters was of a ball with a cube inside it that traveled between two F-18s traveling in tandem, so at very close range. (That may have been a separate encounter from the gymbal.) I would defer to an F-18 pilot about those first two being the same aircraft. They obviously have the same kind of equipment on board. Unless someone has specific experience with this type of equipment it would be best to not guess.

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
As a lot of you know, the Gimbal UFO video was the one shot by Navy pilots from their jet cockpit that shows a classic saucer shaped UFO slowly rotating until it is in a vertical, on edge position...then the video stops. Well, according to Bob Lazar that's what they do right before they take off at "impossible" speeds. Is that why the video ended where it did? To keep us from seeing it zoom out of sight? (Can't link videos from my phone. Perhaps a kind soul will find the video and post it)

Bob Lazar is not a reliable source as he knows as much as you and I about these things. A criticism has been voiced about the alleged UFO rotating on its axis and that the movement is unusual. That's not true as pilots can also rotate their planes on their axis, it's called a barrel roll. It seems to me that whoever or whatever is controlling that craft that they are having fun with the earthling pilot and probably "laughing" at him "thinking" "Bet you can't catch me."

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Bro, how can you tell it's "classic saucer shaped?" I don't think one can determine that from the little blob on the screen, bro.

originally posted by: schuyler
You're right. The video as released is not the entire thing, which is apparently with better resolution. The Navy has NOT released the entire video. This is what we have for public consumption, along with the Nimitz video.

They also have not ever released the "chain of custody documentation" that TTS yelled about as proof it's legit, when they caught flack from people who think. "Hey, you haters, there is chain of custody documentation, so quit hating!" Yet they've never actually shown that "chain of custody" documentation.

originally posted by: MissSmartypants

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MissSmartypants

Misidentified by our own military?

What did our own military say about it?

Hmmm. ..
Sorry, it's a secret.

In other words: you don't know.

If you DO know what our own military said about it, why not answer Phage's question? Especially since you used "what our own military said about it" as a rebuttal to another poster's post? Pony up, MissAreYouReallySmartyPants?.

originally posted by: SacredLore

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
If they're laughing at all, it's probably more of a nervous titter.

Indeed!

Navy withholding data on UFO sightings, congressman says

Michio Kaku says the burden of proof has shifted to prove that UFOs are NOT extraterrestrials.

I just listened to Kaku for over a minute and while he is a physicist, as was Stanton Friedman, and I'm just a low-level genius , I can still disagree with their POvs. Here are Kaku's opening remarks:

Well, I'm a physicist. We believe in things that are testable, reproducible and falsifiable. Now, the tide is turned because, traditionally, scientists would giggle and laugh talking about flying saucers and UFOs. The burden of proof was on the believers: prove it, give me the evidence, show me. Now the burden of proof is shifted to the government and the military. Now they have to prove that the sightings are not from outer space and another civilization. Several things have happened; first we have videotapes. Videotapes taken by United States navy pilots that are testable. We can now see and calculate how fast they move. How fast they can zig-zag. What is the altitude? We know the parameters of these objects now. We didn't have that before. And so this means that the burden of proof has shifted. Now the military, the government has to prove that they are not from another planet. Now, there might still be test hypersonic vehicles; Russia, the United States and China. All three countries are experimenting with hypersonic vehicles. But that's a big question mark. The other possibility is that, who knows, maybe they are evidence of visitations. ...

Physicists believe? They may theorize but belief should not enter into their minds. They either know or not. Belief is restricted to the mentally conditioned. Strike one.

Then he says:

The burden of proof was on the believers: prove it, give me the evidence, show me.

Wait a minute, he just intimated that he's a believer! Strike two.

The burden of proof has not shifted to the government and the military 'cause we know better. There is no one in gov't or military that has any more knowledge than you and I. All they have is file cases full of reports, photos, videotapes digital files. Nothing extraordinary or even secret regardless of your beliefs (not mine as I don't have a belief system.

Anyway, being a physicist does not give Kaku nor anyone else any special knowledge about UFOs/alleged aliens 'cause they're working from the same sources: you and I. Being highly educated can be beneficial but we of the lower classes can also develop superb logic and common sense.

Something that has always bothered me about this video is the one pilot stating...

“that thing is going against the wind. The wind is 120 knots.”

120 knot wind? That’s 138mph or a Cat 4 hurricane.

They were flying “work ups” in a Cat 4?

A Cat 4 could have been blowing a shack from Bermuda up into the air. I’m pretty certain the Navy doesn’t fly F18s into a Cat 4.

a reply to: MissSmartypants
Very funny. Now maybe read up on the physics behind it, this has been posted here on ATS a couple of times now.

For someone who names herself miss smartypants you show much ignorance about this. Just saying.

originally posted by: Oleandra88
a reply to: MissSmartypants
Very funny. Now maybe read up on the physics behind it, this has been posted here on ATS a couple of times now.

For someone who names herself miss smartypants you show much ignorance about this. Just saying.

Well, I've glanced over the posts to see what you're referring to, with no luck, you're going to have to be a lot more specific.

originally posted by: PilSungMtnMan
Something that has always bothered me about this video is the one pilot stating...

“that thing is going against the wind. The wind is 120 knots.”

120 knot wind? That’s 138mph or a Cat 4 hurricane.

They were flying “work ups” in a Cat 4?

A Cat 4 could have been blowing a shack from Bermuda up into the air. I’m pretty certain the Navy doesn’t fly F18s into a Cat 4.

From the appearance of the clouds beneath them it sort of looks like they could have been flying above a large storm.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Or a stratoculumus deck.


The jet streams reach 120 kts quite often.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: MissSmartypants

Or a stratoculumus deck.


The jet streams reach 120 kts quite often.

I bet you say that to all the girls.

Yawn