OIG Findings on Obama Admin FISA Crime is So Devastating - DOJ Will Prepare America Beforehand.

originally posted by: xuenchen
The coming reports and releases and "consequences" will make the Mueller Report look like Kindergarten recess 😎

Kinda looking this way all-of-a-sudden 😃 ☔

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: cybervigilante

Unfortunately for America, just 6 huge corporations own 90% of the media in this country.

Rome fell and they said it could never happen 😃☔

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Advantage

Why would they not cooperate with a US government investigation? As opposed, of course, to an investigation by Trump's personal attorney.

Why the letter? Were they not cooperating or is it just part of the show?

I would assume its protocol. That one would have to solicit cooperation via written correspondence rather than through a voice call. The interesting part is that this protocol is being followed and specifically who they are soliciting cooperation from. The point is that its been officially requested and intel is not limited to those countries solely.
Sort of like when Katrina hit and Nagin refused to follow protocol so FEMA response was not enacted promptly. There is a protocol for most things that must be followed. This is the populaces introduction to the crapstorm thats about to follow.

a reply to: Advantage

The interesting part is that this protocol is being followed and specifically who they are soliciting cooperation from.

Then you got my point.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Advantage

Why would they not cooperate with a US government investigation? As opposed, of course, to an investigation by Trump's personal attorney.

Why the letter? Were they not cooperating or is it just part of the show?

I think the overriding point is that it is perfectly legitmate and common practice to ask foreign govts to help with DoJ investigations by sharing intelligence. Running for office, as Biden is doing, is not a get out of jail card.

a reply to: UKTruth

I think the overriding point is that it is perfectly legitmate and common practice to ask foreign govts to help with DoJ investigations by sharing intelligence.

I agree.

So what DOJ investigation was Guliani involved with, and why? He's just the Trump's lawyer, right? Working for Trump. Right?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

I think the overriding point is that it is perfectly legitmate and common practice to ask foreign govts to help with DoJ investigations by sharing intelligence.

I agree.

So what DOJ investigation was Guliani involved with, and why? He's just the Trump's lawyer, right? Working for Trump. Right?

Guilianni is as free to investigate and speak with foreign govts as you and I.
Given that the investigation appears to be about the beginnings of the Russia investigation into Trump, Trumps lawyer is the obvious person to act on Trump's behalf and liaise withe the DoJ.

a reply to: UKTruth

And the president is free to use his influence for his own benefit.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

And the president is free to use his influence for his own benefit.

Edited above.... who else would the President use to work with the DoJ in their investigation?

This likely will benefit the President, but that can not be a reason not to investigate.
You don't get a pass just because what you did might involve illegally trying to remove a President you want to be beat in an election.

a reply to: UKTruth

It doesn't seem that Guilani's investigation of Hunter didn't have much to do with any DOJ investigation of the oranges of the Muellar investigation.

Seems it had more to do with seeking dirt on a political opponent. Possible using bribery (or extortion, depending on your point of view) to do so.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

It doesn't seem that Guilani's investigation of Hunter didn't have much to do with any DOJ investigation of the oranges of the Muellar investigation.

We don't know what's involved.
Given the DNC allegedly sought information from Ukraine to damage Trump, it makes sense to look into all Ukrainian influence peddling within Washington. For all we know, the relationship Biden developed when in office provided the opportunity to leverage the Ukraine govt to help take down Trump.
Point is that you and I don;t know - and an investigation should cover all avenues.

Leveraging foreign govts to get them to do what you want is common practice.
Whilst there are many elements of politics that are questionable, it is not reasonable to criminalise them depending on who has the seat at the negotiating table. The test is whether the US benefits from that leverage, rather than an individual.

For Trump, it is reasonable to suggest that rooting out corruption in Washington is of benefit - and we know there is an active investigation into the origins of the Russia investigation in which Ukraine played a role.
For Biden, I fail to see where any benefit comes from stopping the Ukraine investigating his son OR what investigation his efforts were associated to.

More to the point, why is it that Biden is being covered for here? He's running for president of the USA and he is on video admitting a far more obvious abuse of power whilst VP. If it's considered that Trump committed an impeachable offense, why have the Democrats not forced Biden out of the race?

I've heard "devastating" so often from the Dems that I think we shouldn't even use that word. If the Real truth comes out it won't need hyperbole.

a reply to: cybervigilante

With Dems its only hype.

October 10, 2019

If you look at the listing of reports on the left side of oig.justice.gov... , you see that as of today, it has been 9 days since the last report from the DOJ's Office of Inspector General.

Normally, there are 3 to 4 reports published every week.

IMO...preparing the FISA abuse report for release (reportedly on October 18th) is consuming a lot of OIG resources. It's supposed to be thick as the old phonebooks for small cities.

I hope the IG report doesn't deeply disappoint so many of you who have been hoping for 2.5 years for the "winning" to start, LOL.

Seriously, it will be good to have a definitive end to this particular talking point, one way or the other.

a reply to: Gryphon66

"Winning" started, and has been in progress, since November 2016.

Bringing "justice" to the crooks Obama commanded is the Icing On The Cake!

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Gryphon66

"Winning" started, and has been in progress, since November 2016.

Bringing "justice" to the crooks Obama commanded is the Icing On The Cake!

LOL ... I guess when you define your own terms, anything can mean anything.

I honestly do hope you guys get something out of this report. God knows ... it's been a while.

a reply to: Gryphon66

The OIG's FISA Abuse Investigation was started in July 2018. A little more than a year ago. Horowitz has 2 more reports coming after this one.

a reply to: carewemust

Is that your personal title "OIG's FISA Abuse Investigation"? Seems a bit ... biased, no?

Horowitz issued a similar report in June 2018 ... and everyone on the Republicans' Naughty List was going down then too.

Allegedly.

Like I said, you guys need a win. If any of the Obama Administration broke the FISA laws, I hope they're nailed to the wall.

a reply to: Gryphon66

he did?? Hmm I thought there was a Russian collusion Dossier being made then, and any time anyone farted it was Obstruction

So yea what report by Horowitz the FBI bias?

YOU held hope on that?? I didn't, too Subjective.

Like "impeachment"