Walmart being sued for el Paso shooting.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Walmart doesn't even want to hire cashiers, no way they will hire security.

Thank god our's has a u-scan line... Back before that they only kept two lanes open and the lines were long as hell.

Though, I try to avoid Walmart all together unless I need something that day, and they have a really cheap version.

a reply to: Bluntone22

the walmart here in west Michigan has a sign near the door about guns and knives

so This walmart does restrict my right to self defense.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Walmart doesn't even want to hire cashiers, no way they will hire security.

To be honest the cashiers are mostly useless.
We have one named Jeremy. He loves to talk about every damn thing that goes across the scanner. I would literally avoid his line.
Love the self checker lines.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Guillermo and jessica Garcia filed a lawsuit against Walmart for not providing adequate security to prevent the attack that killed 22 people in el paso.

If the police don't even have a legal obligation to protect people, then I don't see how a private corp could be held to a higher standard?

a reply to: CriticalStinker
Didn't the Parkland officer hide behind a car waiting for the shooting to stop?

a reply to: Bluntone22

To be honest the cashiers are mostly useless. We have one named Jeremy. He loves to talk about every damn thing that goes across the scanner.

*Finally get's to cashier, 5 people with full shopping carts behind me, really dreading this encounter with Jeremy, but I couldn't avoid it*

*sigh* "Hey Jeremy.... how are you"?

"AH JEEZE, I'M GREAT MAN, I EAT THESE SAME CHIPS, CRAZY WE BOTH EAT THE SAME CHIPS!!!"

"Yea Jeremy, they're good"

"OH WOW, HEY, THAT SURE IS A BIG BOTTLE OF LUBE YOU GOT THERE".....

Probably how the mass shooting started.

a reply to: thedigirati

Not sure about the El Paso store.
You might be right but I don't know if it will matter or not in court.

originally posted by: PolyATS
a reply to: CriticalStinker
Didn't the Parkland officer hide behind a car waiting for the shooting to stop?

Yup, and if I'm not mistaken, there was a point, or it's still a thing that a cop doesn't have to risk his life to save another. Though there has been a lot of litigation that arose from that very instance, not sure where it stands now.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Bluntone22

To be honest the cashiers are mostly useless. We have one named Jeremy. He loves to talk about every damn thing that goes across the scanner.

*Finally get's to cashier, 5 people with full shopping carts behind me, really dreading this encounter with Jeremy, but I couldn't avoid it*

*sigh* "Hey Jeremy.... how are you"?

"AH JEEZE, I'M GREAT MAN, I EAT THESE SAME CHIPS, CRAZY WE BOTH EAT THE SAME CHIPS!!!"

"Yea Jeremy, they're good"

"OH WOW, HEY, THAT SURE IS A BIG BOTTLE OF LUBE YOU GOT THERE".....

Probably how the mass shooting started.

You might be onto something....
Maybe El Paso had a Jeremy.....hmmm

If Walmart is not responsible for the protection of its customers, how can we hold schools responsible for the protection of our children by arming their teachers?

Or, if you want to argue that everyone should be responsible for their own defense by having everyone open carry, how can we not argue therefore, that, even children should be allowed to defend themselves by openly carrying their guns in the classroom?

Where, or when, does “personal responsibility” begin?

a reply to: Bhadhidar


I don't think you can let minors carry guns.
But at the same time, how can a building with glass windows ever be totally secure?

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Thecakeisalie

The cheap seats in a theater is the peanut gallery...ha
It's also a group that focuses on the insignificant details.

You need to stop looking at lawsuits logically.
For some reason common sense doesn't figure into to verdict.

Ah now I get the the peanuts thing.

I agree that common sense should prevail, bolt action rifles and revolvers, certain firearms that is provided to the military should not be available to the public, and the true firearms enthusiasts need to step up, because the NRA won't.

Emasculation is a great deterrent, a skilled Marksman only needs one Bullet to down a hog, a loser needs a magazine. Using that logic perhaps things could change.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Wal Mart has no responsibility to protect its customers. Cameras, security, etc are in place to protect Wal Marts assets. If im not mistaken, to get camera footage requires a subpoena (that may have changed since the hit piece published several years back about a woman being raped in a wal mart parking lot).

The duty of self preservation falls solely on the individual. Im ashamed that a fellow Texan doesn't understand this. If you want to sue, look at the shooter and start working outwards among his sphere of influence. Wal Mart is not in that sphere.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Bhadhidar


I don't think you can let minors carry guns.
But at the same time, how can a building with glass windows ever be totally secure?

Many current gun owners would argue that they learned how to handle guns while they were still minors.

And if you review the school shootings, you’ll find that few of the victims were shot from outside the school building; most were shot at relatively close range in classrooms and hallways, and on the schoolyard as they fled.

originally posted by: thedigirati
a reply to: Bluntone22

the walmart here in west Michigan has a sign near the door about guns and knives

so This walmart does restrict my right to self defense.

Company wide policy is they just prefer you don't open carry. If you do, a manager may ask that you leave it in the car, or conceal it next time you come in. If a customer complains to management that someone is armed, and it's making them uncomfortable they may handle it different. You can still have your pew pew, some people just don't want to see it.

As for this lawsuit, it's ridiculous but they'll likely get a settlement. At the time there were no policies against anyone open or concealed carrying, so that's not even an argument.

originally posted by: Bhadhidar

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Bhadhidar


I don't think you can let minors carry guns.
But at the same time, how can a building with glass windows ever be totally secure?

Many current gun owners would argue that they learned how to handle guns while they were still minors.

And if you review the school shootings, you’ll find that few of the victims were shot from outside the school building; most were shot at relatively close range in classrooms and hallways, and on the schoolyard as they fled.

Minors learn to handle guns but with parental supervision.
That's a far cry from carrying in school.

And I wasn't talking about shooting through the windows I meant it's easy to break a window to gain access to the inside. Honestly I would think driving a car through the front door would be rather easy too.

a reply to: LordAhriman

Oh, you miss understand, I do not own a "gun" or assult rifle, I have quiet weapons and I'm 6'4, I was an active duty Marine and have a black belt.

I despise loud weapons, they hurt my ears. I still do not think anyone has the right to limit my ability to protect myself, then say it's not their responsibility to protect me.

a reply to: thedigirati

You could always use your martial arts skills to master the ancient fighting craft of the Yo-Yo.

Keep that sucker on your belt, guarantee no one is going to freak out if they see it. And if you get in a fight and whip it out, they might laugh until you sling that puppy right into their temple.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I sorta do that now, I always have a paperback book in my back pocket.

it's deadly at close range and can stop a bullet

ever take a spine of a paperback to the bridge of the nose?

I'm a nerd trapped in a jocks body.

I'm never unarmed.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Thats funny, Walmart just brought this on themselves after changing their store policy's lol. They could have won this instantly but not now that they have banned people with guns carrying in their stores after the shooting.