Lingering 911 Mystery

Two things stand out from 9 11

1) Why did Mohammed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari travel to Portland Maine on September 10, 2001 and stay overnight before catching commuter flight to Boston-Logan in time to board American 11 ?

Seems like adding extra complication to the plan, especially if commuter flight, Colgan Air 5930, is delayed by weather or mechanical issues

It risked unhinging the entire timetable of the plot

Was it attempt to throw off security by not having 5 swarthy Middle Eastern types showing up together to board American 11?

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2) Case of United 23

United 23 was a flight schedule from NY-JFK to Los Angeles . It was originally scheduled for 830 AM takeoff, but was delayed and still waiting
in line at 919 am when received message from United dispatcher informing them of hijackings and to secure cockpits

Pilots barricaded door to cockpits and informed flight attendants not to open cabin door for any reasons

Flight Attendants reported several "Arab-looking" passengers, among several suspect passengers on plane

Would later return to gate after ground stop ordered Th suspect passengers refuse to disembark arguing with the flight crew. Security is called
,but the men vanish before security can arrive. Their luggage is searched and find copies of Koran, Al Quada materials and "box cutters"

The men are never identified .

Question is were they another hijacking crew, perhaps a "clean up crew" to strike any targets missed in the initial attacks?

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a reply to: firerescue

Funny, I never heard of these other guys that you say got off and box cutters were found

I know the one plane left late so was behind but it was able to succeed

As far as Atta and them thought they just had a last night of fun since they new were gonna die, thought they went to strip clubs and boozed it up and maybe coke too

Anyway I await any info here about that other plane

a reply to: firerescue

Maybe they went to J's Oyster Bar for a delicious lobster. I had my first lobster there.

a reply to: tayton

I know the one plane left late so was behind but it was able to succeed

United 93 was delayed in Newark NJ, takin g off over 40 minute late/ Newark is notorious for delays

The late takeoff have the passengers time o learn o the other hijackings and attack the terrorists forcing them to crash
the plane

a reply to: firerescue

Why did building 7 come down?

It wasn't hit by planes and shouldn't have been on fire (the fires were clearly up in the towers).

There's lots of mysteries about 911.

a reply to: firerescue

This is still the very best video:



There is no equivalent for the official story. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The official story IS the conspiracy theory!

a reply to: chr0naut

There were a lot of strong winds that day.

a reply to: firerescue

Why did Mohammed Atta's own father say that he spoke to his son days after 9/11 and that Mossad had orchestrated the entire sequence of events of 9/11.....?

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a reply to: tayton

What about the dancing Israelis? There was some crazy stuff going on that day!

You be the judge

This video is really good if you want to really go down the rabbit hole:



"The angel is next" Whoooo, it gave me the chills the first time!!

Passport surviving the crash and collapse?
Condolezza Rice phoning her friend telling him not to fly in the weeks before?
Fireman hearing boom boom boom before and during collapse?
Gvt claiming they were saudis and are dead, yet apparently they were still alive?
Russia coming out recently and saying ''we told them specifically there's an attacking about to be actioned''
Heat Signatures in the ground after the collapse
Pentagon hole
Pentagon plane flight path
Missing Pentagon Trillions announced day before
Passenger on flight calling mother and saying ''hey mom, its
Pentagon Blue Tarp item removed
Tandem training drill happening at exact time
Bush Reading in the classroom after attack
Bush claiming he saw ''first plane hit''

... thats just SOME of the lingering questions in my mind.

How did 60 -70 undamaged stories of WTC 1 and 2 turn to dust before hitting the ground since even if the pancake collapse theory were true the rubble pile should stand much higher than just 2 stories.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: firerescue

Why did building 7 come down?

It wasn't hit by planes and shouldn't have been on fire (the fires were clearly up in the towers).

There's lots of mysteries about 911.

Oh good grief. Have you made any attempt at all to find the answers yourself?

How about the record number of PUT options on the airliner stock in the weeks/days prior. I guess that was just a coincidence.

And all the gold in the basement of WTC? Wonder where that went?

Where was the debris from the shanksville and pentagon crash? Bodies? Wings and fuselage? No, nothing.

Modern skyscrapers crumbling to dust for the first time in history because of a fire...

It's amazing what we will accept as true if the TV says so.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

Passport surviving the crash and collapse?
Condolezza Rice phoning her friend telling him not to fly in the weeks before?
Fireman hearing boom boom boom before and during collapse?
Gvt claiming they were saudis and are dead, yet apparently they were still alive?
Russia coming out recently and saying ''we told them specifically there's an attacking about to be actioned''
Heat Signatures in the ground after the collapse
Pentagon hole
Pentagon plane flight path
Missing Pentagon Trillions announced day before
Passenger on flight calling mother and saying ''hey mom, its
Pentagon Blue Tarp item removed
Tandem training drill happening at exact time
Bush Reading in the classroom after attack
Bush claiming he saw ''first plane hit''

... thats just SOME of the lingering questions in my mind.

f course if you actually did some research would not have any lingering questions

1) Passport

Many objects were recovered from crash sites - drivers license, check books from United 93
Mail from the cargo hold of American 11 show objects could and did survive the impacts

2) Firemen hearing Boom - as floors collapse down one after another gave off the booming sounds

3) Living terrorists ? - was caused by confusion in names and difficulty in transliteration to English which resulted in multiple spelling variations Yes the terrorists are still dead

4) You don't actually believe anything the Russians say …??

5) Heat signature - debris pile burned for 3 months after

6) Pentagon hole - actually were 2 , small one 17 feet across which conspiracy loons like to quote caused by fuselage hitting 2nd floor level, much large 96 ft across at ground level caused by wings and engines

7) Missing trillions - really not missing , but accounting systems could reconcile transactions do to multiply ( some 40 accounting systems) and different formats and data

8) Pentagon Flight path - tracked by radar, C 130 from Andrews (GOPHER 6) had visual, cars on road outside Pentagon
and people on Heliport all saw Flight 77, confirmed by data from Flight recorder

( 9 Bush reading in classroom - told Chief of staff Andy Card to assemble staff and gather information for briefing 5 minutes

If bother to do research can finfd out quite a bit rather than parroting conspiracy fantasy

a reply to: Asktheanimals

How did 60 -70 undamaged stories of WTC 1 and 2 turn to dust before hitting the ground since even if the pancake collapse theory were true the rubble pile should stand much higher than just 2 stories.

what turned to dust was the sheet rock, light weight concrete floor and sprayed on fire protection

The steel columns , bar truss floor supports and other substantial items survived

a reply to: SuicideKing33

Where was the debris from the shanksville and pentagon crash? Bodies? Wings and fuselage? No, nothing.

Debris from Shanksville, United 93, amounted to some 60 tons, filled 10 large construction dumpsters,
was later stored in old iron mine converted to storage facility

Want engines

United 93 Shanksville

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Pentagon

www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/pentagon/pentagon-engine2.jpg

I distinctly remember seeing a video (I thought it was on YouTube) of a line of flatbed semi-trucks carting away blue tarp covered loads in the dead of night, from the basement of the WTC, a couple of days before the collapse. It was supposed to have been the gold.

However I can't find the video anymore (I KNOW I saw it). I watched it THE DAY the towers collapsed.

And strangely all the gold is missing from the basement of the WTC.

Does anyone remember a video like this?

It seems to no longer exist on YouTube and I never heard anything about it in the news either. It's like it was just erased from existence.

a reply to: firerescue


Ah snap we have a paid concrete specialist here... Who'd of thought they would still have disinfo agents out there? The day wreaks of havoc and dismay how could you be so obtuse to the happenings? So strange to side with the government, you must be getting a healthy check for your absurdities.. He slated many anomalies and you shot down every one with nonsense to be honest.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
How did 60 -70 undamaged stories of WTC 1 and 2 turn to dust before hitting the ground since even if the pancake collapse theory were true the rubble pile should stand much higher than just 2 stories.

If the fantasy of the official story were true jet airplanes are the greatest weapon ever created by man!!!