Allowing the gender on birth certificates to be changed/hidden will cause absolute chaos

The Trans Agenda presses on.

We now hear news from Australia that folks are allowed to change their gender on their birth certificate. This is outrageous.

This will lead to many bad things (potentially) occurring, including, for example:

- Making identity theft easier to commit;
- General fraud;
- Great confusion;
- Increased criminality

Et cetera, et cetera.

This has become too insidious. As if the general Trans Agenda was not bad enough. We now have folks amending their gender on their birth certificates down under.

You should all be very, very, very worried. You should all be very, very, very freaked out.

Australians can now choose preferred gender on birth certificates without undergoing sex reassignment surgery

Children too will now be able to officially change their gender with permission from their parents and a statement supporting their application from a doctor or psychologist.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Personally?

I don't this as a big deal.

Crazy people can be crazy. Do any crazy thing they want.

it doesn't impact me in any way.

Winter is in summer and summer is in winter.

Now women can be men and men be women.

I may not approve both personally but hey I can value being consequent in things


Jokes aside, this is wrong.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Personally?

I don't this as a big deal.

Crazy people can be crazy. Do any crazy thing they want.

it doesn't impact me in any way.

With all due respect, this is a very stupid, nonchalant and lackadaisical response to a very, very serious development in a major country.


This is a very serious matter. It's like saying "hey, it's no big deal" following breaking news on 2 August 1990 regarding major events occuring in the Middle East.

Get your head outta the sand - because they're coming for you next.

originally posted by: Oleandra88
Winter is in summer and summer is in winter.

Now women can be men and men be women.

I may not approve both personally but hey I can value being consequent in things

Jokes aside, this is wrong.

I strongly believe that when the Trans Agenda pushes this fully into the mainstream in the Western World and other Western nations follow suit and make it law, identity theft and fraud will skyrocket ten million-fold.

Even worse, they'll probably start spreading misinformation and lies that natural-born dudes are "transgender", despite the fact they're not. Slippery slope to the final destruction of Western Civilisation.

your biological sex is on your birth certificate
gender is whatever you say it is

originally posted by: acackohfcc
your biological sex is on your birth certificate
gender is whatever you say it is

Isn't that what they're allowing folks to change now, though?

That's the whole point, isn't it?

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Personally?

I don't this as a big deal.

Crazy people can be crazy. Do any crazy thing they want.

it doesn't impact me in any way.

With all due respect, this is a very stupid, nonchalant and lackadaisical response to a very, very serious development in a major country.


This is a very serious matter. It's like saying "hey, it's no big deal" following breaking news on 2 August 1990 regarding major events occuring in the Middle East.

Get your head outta the sand - because they're coming for you next.

*shrugs*

People said the same thing about gay marriage.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII
From experience and it is not only my impression, stupid stuff needs like 1-2 years to arrive in Europe.

It was like that with SJWs, transgender fuss and recently, I feel that public shaming and docsing starts to get a hold here, too.

You should see the #show about Trump here and that is why I got suspicious and this is why I will dig into things if I hear the next bad thing he supposedly did. If you then look for US sources, you can see, that the Europe agencies added a small extra spin to each topic. On top of the spin the media there already gave.

Dumb sheep everywhere around me, but some are starting to recognize it and get fed up with it.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Personally?

I don't this as a big deal.

Crazy people can be crazy. Do any crazy thing they want.

it doesn't impact me in any way.

With all due respect, this is a very stupid, nonchalant and lackadaisical response to a very, very serious development in a major country.


This is a very serious matter. It's like saying "hey, it's no big deal" following breaking news on 2 August 1990 regarding major events occuring in the Middle East.

Get your head outta the sand - because they're coming for you next.

*shrugs*

People said the same thing about gay marriage.

I'm even more irate now.

How can you bring same-sex relationships into this conversation. How can people even lump same-sex relationships with this madness?

We are talking about folks being allowed to change gender on birth certificates. This is worlds away from same-sex unions etc.

Whilst they're at it, why don't they select their preferred nationality as well? Why stop there? Maybe some dude actually born in 2001 prefers to change his birth year to 1999.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Personally?

I don't this as a big deal.

Crazy people can be crazy. Do any crazy thing they want.

it doesn't impact me in any way.

I like that answer
Me ,I dont give a rats a__ what other people do.
That is their decision , and they have to face the potential ramifications for themselves.
As long as they are not harming me or anyone else , go for it.
I am too busy making decisions in my own life , I don't have time to make decisions for others.

a reply to: DBCowboy

…. and said so for good reason. The gay agenda did its job, bringing us one step closer... now we are here.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Personally?

I don't this as a big deal.

Crazy people can be crazy. Do any crazy thing they want.

it doesn't impact me in any way.

I like that answer
Me ,I dont give a rats a__ what other people do.
That is their decision , and they have to face the potential ramifications for themselves.
As long as they are not harming me or anyone else , go for it.
I am too busy making decisions in my own life , I don't have time to make decisions for others.

I am by no means against freedom.

But they're coming for you next.

We should all be worried about this.

a reply to: DBCowboy
I am pro gay marriage on the same conditions you set: leave others alone with it.

But this is a fundamental core of our society, not having 200 different genders for like 1 out of 100, 99 people have to deal with this gender bs in public soon.

This is where I set the line in the sand. I am bisexual, yet you will not see me promoting or demanding anything more than basic human respect towards me.

I cringe and I am angry at those who need to hold 99% of the population hostage with their semantic problems. It does a disservice to everyone who just tries to be accepted but they overblow it.

They overstretch the bowstring to a point it will rip soon and if it rips, it will lash at people like me who just want to keep stuff in the bedroom. It is also kind of sad that I had to pull the bisexual card to get others of my back screaming "homophobe".

Not saying you would do that, but I collected a bit experience...

originally posted by: Oleandra88
a reply to: DBCowboy
I am pro gay marriage on the same conditions you set: leave others alone with it.

But this is a fundamental core of our society, not having 200 different genders for like 1 out of 100, 99 people have to deal with this gender bs in public soon.

This is where I set the line in the sand. I am bisexual, yet you will not see me promoting or demanding anything more than basic human respect towards me.

I cringe and I am angry at those who need to hold 99% of the population hostage with their semantic problems. It does a disservice to everyone who just tries to be accepted but they overblow it.

They overstretch the bowstring to a point it will rip soon and if it rips, it will lash at people like me who just want to keep stuff in the bedroom. It is also kind of sad that I had to pull the bisexual card to get others of my back screaming "homophobe".

Not saying you would do that, but I collected a bit experience...

I am a bit peeved that people seem to pop sexuality and this "gender change" stuff into the same circle.

It's one thing to accept same-sex relationships in our societies (same-sex relationships and attraction has existed since the dawn of man); but it's quite another thing to be willy-nilly allowing Billy All-Feels the choice to select his/her gender on their birth certificate?

What next, a kid actually born in 2003 decides he wants to change his birth year to 1996?

originally posted by: AnakinWayneII

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Personally?

I don't this as a big deal.

Crazy people can be crazy. Do any crazy thing they want.

it doesn't impact me in any way.

I like that answer
Me ,I dont give a rats a__ what other people do.
That is their decision , and they have to face the potential ramifications for themselves.
As long as they are not harming me or anyone else , go for it.
I am too busy making decisions in my own life , I don't have time to make decisions for others.

I am by no means against freedom.

But they're coming for you next.

We should all be worried about this.

Why would "they" come for me ?
Do not be concerned for me in the least little bit... .
You will only become grey-haired for no reason whatsoever .
I can take care of myself and my family pretty damn well .
I have for , ummm, a long time now.
Decades .

a reply to: AnakinWayneII
I am a bit peeved that the same major group of people who are also tied in with the 3rd wave feminists, suddenly have no problem highlighting not one difference, but like 200 differences.

We can not be equal and at the same point highlight gender differnces and invent new genders.

I can see someone being more a feminine soul in a male body and the other way around. But inventing a hundredfold of new genders is just crazy.

And it should be handled like that.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

I've never considered identity theft as an issue with this, but I'll have to think about that now. Just one more thing to add to the list. Things that will harm both transgender persons themselves, as well as greater society.

For example, playing make believe does not change the physical realities and differences of male and female bodies. Many health issues, like heart attacks, are presented differently by men and women. They will present with different symptoms for the same condition. They might react differently to the same medicines for the same condition. They might need different medicines to treat the same condition, or different dosages for the same condition. For the same reasons, male bodies and female bodies with the same symptoms could be different conditions. A high testosterone reading for a female body could indicate health issues particular to a female body, but if that doctor believes he is treating a male body, could understandably misdiagnose and therefore prescribe the wrong medicine or treatment.

There was an instance not long ago where a woman who identifies as a "man" likely lost her baby to stillbirth because she did not tell the healthcare providers that she has a female body that can be pregnant. (Yes, I am "misgendering" here, because reality is important!)

In a broader sense, and much more dangerous, violent male sexual predators are being allowed to "change" their gender and their identity, thus hiding their violent criminal records. Many crimes by violent men are being reported and recorded as being committed by "women." They are being placed in women's prisons and refuges and shelters and other private sex-protected spaces. And don't you dare "deadname" them and tell the world who they really are and what they've done, because then you're "denying their existence." Never mind the women they've brutalized and tried to kill or have killed.

Also, by skewing statistics and records, so will collective resources be misdirected and misspent. For example, if enough males are counted as "women," and statistics reflect this increase by showing a significant decrease in cervical or uterine cancer, the logical conclusion is that less women are developing cervical or uterine cancer, when it may be exactly the opposite. But resources will be directed elsewhere.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. And it's crazy. Absolutely irrational, illogical, and downright dangerous for everyone.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Can I as a male identify myself as female? do I get all the benefits of being female with the once a month get out of work because I'm on my period? If I indentifiy as a female do I then, or can I be pregnant and get paid maternity leave. I see this as a perfect opportunity for men to receive all the job related benefits that women get.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

It's sad, that doctors and psychologists would do this to children.



But I guess if they identify all the "transgender children" young and can "transition" them chemically before they are fertile then they can finally solve all of their problems of transgenderism, in just a few generations. If it's genetic.