The Anti - Open Carry Epidemic

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: KKLOCO
Why would anyone need to carry a gun in one of these business establishments?

To impress the ladies with their masculinity. It's like the avatars of some member sporting a superhero with big muscles and pointing an obvious phallic symbol at you. Some American males deal with their insecurities in a very peculiar manner.

Even some female ATS members feel the need to express their masculinity, makes you wonder, eh?

Just... wow.

I open carry a Ruger 9mm ultralight everywhere (in cranberry color!).

So to you that makes me envious of someone with a penis?

I also don't think that males that open carry have insecurity issues...

The men with the 6" lifted chipped 1 ton diesels I get a giggle out of though...

As well as anyone who drives a HumV.

Perhaps your open carry issues say more about you then it does those of us who open carry...

a reply to: LordAhriman

Brandishing has a legal definition. Open Carry is not brandishing.

The guy who shot up the El Paso Wal-Mart wasn't exercising his right to open carry.

No one has a right to assault others. Assault does not equal open carry.

a reply to: ketsuko

You miss the point, as usual.

The right to bear arms is indeed a right. You do not have the Constitutional right to carry into a business because the fact of carrying a firearm is not of a public service in itself. To refuse a gay couple, or a black couple, etc, the right to a public service—the service of your business—is completely different.

One is discrimination, on is not, legally.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

To be fair I believe the Brown Bess is a smooth bore but it is a legit military assault weapon none the less.

a reply to: projectvxn

Wasn't there a guy, days later who strolled in with body armour, and a rifle(AR..maybe) what was that guy trying to prove? I call it dick waving

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: KKLOCO
Why would anyone need to carry a gun in one of these business establishments?

To impress the ladies with their masculinity. It's like the avatars of some member sporting a superhero with big muscles and pointing an obvious phallic symbol at you. Some American males deal with their insecurities in a very peculiar manner.

Even some female ATS members feel the need to express their masculinity, makes you wonder, eh?

Just... wow.

I open carry a Ruger 9mm ultralight everywhere (in cranberry color!).

So to you that makes me envious of someone with a penis?

I also don't think that males that open carry have insecurity issues...

The men with the 6" lifted chipped 1 ton diesels I get a giggle out of though...

As well as anyone who drives a HumV.

Perhaps your open carry issues say more about you then it does those of us who open carry...

Hey.....I have a 1 ton diesel with a lift and a chip, it blows black smoke and everything.
I'm offended......all 5'4" of me....

a reply to: vonclod

He was one of those morons that do Bill of Rights "audits" in places and they know they are stirring # up.

It's like the people who go to a military base to do 1A audits and are surprised when they get kicked out (sometimes roughly).

Most people who open carry don't do those things.

a reply to: Liquesence

So, I will take that as a "no" and a "yes". Indeed, that is why they make compacts, for those who choose to sacrifice size for concealability, but what if your main interest is comfort, is it more comfortable to try to conceal a gun on your body or to just hang it off your belt?

What if it is hot outside, aren't those IWB holsters mighty hot?

I am sure for some people open carry is showing off, but are you sure for other's it is just not giving a # and wanting to be comfortable?

Personally I don't carry a gun at all but if I lived in some places I might.

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: KKLOCO
Why would anyone need to carry a gun in one of these business establishments?

To impress the ladies with their masculinity. It's like the avatars of some member sporting a superhero with big muscles and pointing an obvious phallic symbol at you. Some American males deal with their insecurities in a very peculiar manner.

Even some female ATS members feel the need to express their masculinity, makes you wonder, eh?

Just... wow.

I open carry a Ruger 9mm ultralight everywhere (in cranberry color!).

So to you that makes me envious of someone with a penis?

I also don't think that males that open carry have insecurity issues...

The men with the 6" lifted chipped 1 ton diesels I get a giggle out of though...

As well as anyone who drives a HumV.

Perhaps your open carry issues say more about you then it does those of us who open carry...

Hey.....I have a 1 ton diesel with a lift and a chip, it blows black smoke and everything.
I'm offended......all 5'4" of me....

So maybe it's a horizontally challenged thing and not a penis issue?

Because I once dated a short guy who had a pretty impressive concealed carry...

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Liquesence

People legally and psychologically secure in themselves don't need to let everyone know either by open carrying, that's kinda my point.

I get the point that you are scared of these people.
“Can you point to the spot on the doll where they hurt you?”

Scared?

Did you miss where I said I conceal carry?

It doesn’t mean that you aren’t scared.
In fact, it would indicate that you are scared of something.

Not really. Just better to be prepared should the need arise.

Sounds like you are scared enough to carry a concealed weapon.
Whatever, I hope you never have to use it. Even if you win, you lose.

I mean, if everyone who carries a concealed gun is scared of something...But those who open carry aren't?

I hope I never have to use it either.

I never really made that distinction. I said concealed because you specifically said that you don’t open carry.
If you are carrying a weapon, you are being prepared.
The reason all goes to fear.
You fear that someone will threaten your life or the life of a loved one.
I am not saying that is wrong. In fact, if you and I were in the same movie theater when a whack job stormed in with a weapon, I would be mighty happy to have you in there. Even happier if you can hit what you aim at, but either way, you would draw their fire and make it easier for me to make my escape. (I never said that I am not afraid)

In any case, your fear is there. We all have them, even if we don’t like to admit them. It is my opinion that a person that says they have no fear is full of bluster.

a reply to: funbobby

what if your main interest is comfort, is it more comfortable to try to conceal a gun on your body or to just hang it off your belt?
What if it is hot outside, aren't those IWB holsters mighty hot?

You can still conceal with an OWH, unless you just wanna have a full sized cannon on your side that you want others to see.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
There's really no reason for it. I'm fine with concealed carry, doesn't hurt anybody. But in these times, if you can't understand why the customers and employees of El Paso Walmart don't want to see someone brandishing a gun, you need help.

Carry is carry.

A firearm is a firearm.

If you are scared of being in the same space with someone who has one, then you are scared of it. It won't make any difference if they have it tucked away where it's not easy to see or not.

a reply to: butcherguy

It is my opinion that a person that says they have no fear is full of bluster.

I'm actually not. Whether you believe that or not, I really don't care.

If you are carrying a weapon, you are being prepared.

Same reason I carry a first aid kit, sanitary wipes, etc. Doesn't mean I'm scared. Just prepared.

But I doubt I'll ever have to use the first aid kit, or the gun, but I have them. And it's better to have them than not, should others need help.

a reply to: Liquesence

what if you just want to have a full size cannon and don't care if others see?

cell phones are more dangerous. You dont see people screwing around with guns while trying to drive. We should ban cell phones first.

originally posted by: funbobby
a reply to: Liquesence

what if you just want to have a full size cannon and don't care if others see?

See my original posts.

a reply to: Liquesence

nah

a reply to: funbobby

I say go for it. A desert Eagle is not uncomfortable with open carry.

you guys just carrying one gun these days...LOL. Hope its at least a medium size with full capacity.

doesnt hurt to keep a shotgun or a carbine in the trunk either.

a reply to: Liquesence

It is discrimination. Discrimination against someone exercising their constitutional right.

I have the right to do a thing, but it's no good if I cannot do it anywhere because nowhere allows it.

Sort of like smoking, huh?

Of course, it shall not be infringed, so ....

And my service is not a public service. It's the service of a private business that I choose to offer to some members of the public. Isn't that the platform under which much of what big companies are getting away with takes place these days? They are a private business ... They can do as they like ...