Suddenly, fluoride is being outed as the poison that it is.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Interesting... So, would it be accurate to say that One Big Monkey, Too - likes fluoride?
How much fluoride do you think you personally ingest on a daily basis?
Asking for a friend...

originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: Grimpachi
Actually to much water swells the brain and can cause death, and it takes far less than gallons over days.
People that have died on party drugs like mdma are often found to have drunk to much water.

The main cause of the problem there is the relative concentrations of Na and K ions (and other electrolytes), and thus the transfer of nutrients and waste across them. Dilute those concentrations and things just don;t work properly. Over-hydrating can affect everywhere, not just the brain. Party drugs make you feel thirsty, so people drink too much in response.

Why is there fluoride in the water in the first place again?

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Why is there fluoride in the water in the first place again?

Nazis, CIA, Project Paperclip, et al.
Society MUST be dumbed down.
Look at the way the normal educated person from the 1800's spoke and the convictions that they upheld compared to the average "educated" moron in today's world.

Society must be dumbed down in order to completely control its ever expanding populace of useless consumers.

Cold hard Fluoride Facts right there...

Spot on...the real reason they put it in the water...Hitler did the same to quell the masses in the camps. Cipro and Levaquen loaded with flouride..why? Theyre antibiotics. I took Cipro long term and it frigged me up...had to detox from it.a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Why is there fluoride in the water in the first place again?

Oh you know, so we will all have nice shiny teeth as we are fighting over our crayons.

Forget flouride what about all the depress drugs going into our water? Feeling depressed? Hmm. I wonder why? They already told us not to collect rain water.

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

www.nidcr.nih.gov...

www.politifact.com...

The study of flouride as a means of preventing tooth decay has nothing to do with nazis, project paperclip or the CIA.

This statement, however,

Look at the way the normal educated person from the 1800's spoke and the convictions that they upheld compared to the average "educated" moron in today's world.

does contain a dangerous level of irony.

a reply to: gladtobehere

I do believe it was always known as a poison. Many substances are poison as others have pointed out. The table salt we use to spice our foods is a toxic poison. Many studies have shown that added fluoride in drinking water, toothpaste and other sources is extremely beneficial for good dental health. The amounts typically used are not fatal nor dangerous.

Many municipalities no longer fluoridate water because we now include it in other products including some foods, all in safe amounts. Almost everything we consume could be considered a poison, certainly some are more dangerous than others. Even Belladonna has it uses, both medical and even building material. It's all about how it is used and how much, but the government has always classified fluoride as dangerous. It's only in more recent time that people attempt to tie it to some dark conspiracy.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Look at the way the normal educated person from the 1800's spoke and the convictions that they upheld compared to the average "educated" moron in today's world.

does contain a dangerous level of irony.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Grimpachi
It says on toothpaste to only use a pea sized amount..... and supervise children so they do not swallow.

Why would they print that on toothpaste if it was harmless?

The real question who was the moron that thought it protected against decay?

Anyone seen the studies they do on indigenous tribes that have never brushed once in their life and have white cavivity free teeth?

All the # that's put in our food is why we're facing health crisis today and cancer rates through the roof.

Google Mt. Dew mouth.

I have a feeling the people that say flouride is safe are the same apes that buy biologically dead fruit and vegetables at the local grocery and think they're eating healthy. Sucking down the polished apples and all.

originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: JustJohnny
Toxic means nothing.

No, toxic means the level that it takes to kill you.

What it doesn't take into account is the amount that it takes to do unhealthy damage along the way towards that lethal dose.

What you are saying is correct, fluoride probably will not kill someone if you consume amounts deemed safe, but long term consumption can lead to some serious chronic conditions for many people. I do not think it should be put into our water supply myself, I have no problem with a little being put into toothpaste, after all that is where they want the fluoride, not in your gut.

originally posted by: gladtobehere
In this 9 minute video, several sources from the corporate media to medical and dental professionals are stating in no uncertain terms that fluoride is indeed dangerous.

3 pages of comments, and no one has yet pointed out: no municipality puts 'fluoride' in their water.

If they put 'fluoride' in their water, they almost certainly using 'sodium fluoride'. Sodium fluoride is rat poison.

Any/all studies showing any benefit to 'fluoride' with respect to teeth were either using water that contains naturally occurring 'fluoride' - which is always in the form of calcium fluoride - or they were using 'calcium fluoride'.

But no studies were done using sodium fluoride - because it is a potent neurotoxin, even at low, so-called 'safe' levels.

It is all mis-direction.

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Why is there fluoride in the water in the first place again?

Because mining and industrial companies paid the US government a lot of money to name it a "benefit" rather than a contaminate after it was discovered those companies had heavily polluted the nation's surface waters with fluoride.

One issue that gets too little airplay is the scientific fact that fluoride assists heavy metals in collecting in body tissue, leading to heavy metal poisoning, especially in industrial hubs where the water already has high levels of heavy metals.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

These findings show that fluoride consistently increases BPb and calcified tissues Pb concentrations in animals exposed to low levels of lead and suggest that a biological effect not yet recognized may underlie the epidemiological association between increased BPb lead levels in children living in water-fluoridated communities.

We're literally mandating an increase in dullards and stupid, learning disabled children by requiring fluoride be put in municipal water systems.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: gladtobehere
In this 9 minute video, several sources from the corporate media to medical and dental professionals are stating in no uncertain terms that fluoride is indeed dangerous.

3 pages of comments, and no one has yet pointed out: no municipality puts 'fluoride' in their water.

If they put 'fluoride' in their water, they almost certainly using 'sodium fluoride'. Sodium fluoride is rat poison.

Any/all studies showing any benefit to 'fluoride' with respect to teeth were either using water that contains naturally occurring 'fluoride' - which is always in the form of calcium fluoride - or they were using 'calcium fluoride'.

But no studies were done using sodium fluoride - because it is a potent neurotoxin, even at low, so-called 'safe' levels.

It is all mis-direction.

I guess that is where you are from. We put Hexafluorosilicic acid in about 1/3 of the supply my company puts out and that is solely at the request of the health authority. If it was up to us we wouldn't add it it and could do away with the additional cost.

Edit to add: Although we do have supply zone inter-connectors we have to have a justifiable reason to import/export to/from a fluoridated zone but that is because of heath authority guidance.

If you don't spread it on crackers and eat it, you'll probably be okay. It's not like there aren't 10,000 other toxic things we're exposed to every day. Human beings are designed to last just enough to get the job done. That job? Procreating.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
If you don't spread it on crackers and eat it, you'll probably be okay. It's not like there aren't 10,000 other toxic things we're exposed to every day. Human beings are designed to last just enough to get the job done. That job? Procreating.

Not sure about that. Women where I'm from usually outlive the men.

originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
We put Hexafluorosilicic acid in about 1/3 of the supply my company puts out

Hmmm... so where are you located?

But googling reveals there are (now) a total of 3 forms of fluoride used. Interesting...

So, are 'hexafluorosilicic acid' and plain 'fluorosilicic acid' the same thing?

and that is solely at the request of the health authority.

I'm guessing you are in the UK or Europe?

a reply to: tanstaafl

UK.

Edit to add: Your link mentioned pharmaceutical grade, we treat ourselves as a food company with similar standards and hygiene practices.


Edit: Also, rat poison over here tends to be warfarin.

originally posted by: RexKramerPRT

originally posted by: Blue Shift
If you don't spread it on crackers and eat it, you'll probably be okay. It's not like there aren't 10,000 other toxic things we're exposed to every day. Human beings are designed to last just enough to get the job done. That job? Procreating.

Not sure about that. Women where I'm from usually outlive the men.

I'm not sure what one has to do with the other, but okay. Women have statistically lived longer than men for quite a while now, for a variety of reasons, although the gap has been shortening lately. I suspect that it's because women evolved for durability and men are built for strength and aggression. Either way, though, we're not immortal. We're made to die off so the younger generation with its better immune system can utilize the resources in the environment and grow up to have their own children who are better than they are. Circle of life, and all that.