Not everybody has to have a soul

a reply to: SourceTruth

What she tells you about the matrix is not something that you will find anywhere else.

Sorry, But it can found else where.

Just because you have not found it doesn't mean other haven't.

If you actually watched her videos like I told you to do you might understand what answers she provides, and you'll see how it's not like anything you have ever seen before. She not only tells you about the matrix, she tells you exactly what you need to do to master the matrix.

Who said I haven't?

Why would I say what she says is available elsewhere and not only in her videos?

You need to stop assuming things.

And I do actually have a personal verification that what she says is completely true because I have done the things she has said and I have experienced the results from that. But you are being very dismissive of her when you haven't even watched her videos.

If you have any verification of anything you would have just that little bit of wisdom not to make such idiotic assumptions.

You have nothing but assumptions which you think are some sort of truths about what others believe based on what a YouTube video is telling you.

You keep saying "not everyone believes that everyone has a soul",

Why would I say that?

I have explained numerous times why.

Why are struggling to get it?

but it is still a widely accepted idea.

Widely accepted does not equal "all" as your OP said, this is what I have saying the whole time.

I am happy you have finally seen your own assumptions.

I don't know why you don't think that it is a widely accepted idea in our society.

and I don't know why you keep saying things that were not said.

Did I say its not widely accepted or did I say that not "all" assume this as your OP said?

Not very attentive are you.

Consciousness does not explain where our awareness "comes from".

again with the inability to actually read whats written, you just quoted what I said, I didn't say it explains but is used to explain.

You are trying to nitpick at my definitions for soul and consciousness, but I can describe my claim that not everyone has a soul without using the term "soul".

No I am saying these terms already have definitions, I am just saying that you trying to redefine these terms is leading no where as you have yet to give any reasons why anyone should accept your definitions other than pointing readers to YouTube videos.

You can say "not everyone believes that everyone else has a soul", but I can say "Although not everyone believes it, it is still a widely accepted idea in our society". What do you have to say to that?

That you are changing what you initially said.

what else can I say.

I am a human being who has consciousness, but not all human beings have consciousness.

and yet you show very little awareness to what you have said and what others have said.

You try and say things have been said when they haven't and the issue is your interpretation.

an example provided above about how first you say "all" now "widely accepted" and saying that I said its not widely accepted when at no time I have because you never said that initially.

You keep changing what you are saying because of your initial assumptions fall apart.

In no way have I tried to hint that I mean "heart" when I say soul.

Try reading other posts in this very thread of yours that have also interpreted this is what you are meaning.

You seem to be confusing the definitions of being conscious and having consciousness. There is a big difference between the two that you don't seem to understand. Or rather you ignore the difference and you try to use whatever definition you can use in order to avoid actually telling me what is wrong with my statement, because you can't actually tell me what is wrong with my statement, so you try to avoid it.

No, it is you who is trying to redefine already defined words.

I have said it many times, consciousness does not require a redefinition and being conscious or unconscious certainly does require a consciousness.

I am not trying to use any other definition but the ones the words already have.

When I say "we all", I was talking about those that are part of this discussion.

Your initial post to start this thread wasn't a discussion and that is where you mentioned what "we all" assume

That is what I pointed out, that it is your assumption that "we all" assume or believe what ever you are saying.

I didn't mean it in a literal way, and I didn't mean to apply it to all of humanity, although it is a widely accepted idea. You are nitpicking at my choice of words.

Seeing as the way you have expressed yourself, I simply replied showing you how what you have said can be interpreted and how it seems more so like your own assumption rather what all others assume.

Why does that upset you?

You are accusing me of "redefining words to fit my beliefs", but you are the one who is mixing the definitions of words in order to avoid actually confronting my main point.

Not accusing you, you have proven my observations that you are trying to redefine and merge words meanings through this thread.

What is your main point?

So far all it seems to be promoting someones YouTube channel.

If your point is not everyone has a soul or now as you have changed it and say not everyone has a consciousness then that point is simply your opinion or belief.

Pointing to a YouTube videos is meaningless in real life and beliefs we hold about spirituality.

Words and stories arise about things that aren't......
Concepts arise within the non conceptual.

a reply to: SourceTruth

No, the soulless are not the few, they are the majority. They are the vast majority of the people in the game.

mate you need to put away the play station, walk away from YouTube for a while and lay off the weed.


Its one or another or combination if not all 3.






Go outside and experience life, how many people have you had a chance to deeply get to know in your short time in this matrix?

5,10,100?

I would assume its 5 or below based on your age and by what you have said so far.

Have you traveled and experienced other cultures and countries, other classes of people in your very own nation?

Have you experienced love, loss, war, famine and experienced the effects either first or even 2nd hand?

To say what you just have shows an ignorance beyond definition and could be pointing too who really is soulless or more so unconscious due to a very limited awareness other than what YouTube videos tell you.

and now to show how much you change your tone

I have doubts that everyone has a soul. It doesn't make sense for everyone to have a soul.

Now you have doubts but what I am replying too here sounds like a very solid statement that not everyone has one and actually that a majority don't.

you say it pretty obvious after you say you have doubts

It is pretty obvious most people don't have souls to me.

and many in this thread have asked how does one tell.

We know its obvious too you, the question being asked by quite a few now is how do you tell.

the funniest or saddest thing, not really sure if its funny or just sad is that this is is your answer

You have to ask your source self programmed pendulum.

are you just parroting what one of those videos told you now?

can you not answer a simple straight forward question without vague references?

What I don't understand is why doesn't anybody question if everyone has a soul?

Because everybody is an individual

You think like you do and have shown why you do.

Others may not think alike. other may devise their thoughts and beliefs not from YouTube but from other places that can be in the digital world or the real world or a combination.

This seems to bother you that there is diversity of thoughts and beliefs and your way of explaining differences seems to be others don't have a soul or have no consciousness even if that is not how you see what you saying, its very easily interpreted that way.

You speak of the matrix and how many are programmed/soulless.


You are the only one that has actually shown who is programmed within this thread.

You just call your programming "the truth" because you can personally verify it.

a reply to: InhaleExhale
So you believe in souls?

Show me just one.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

So you believe in souls?

souls? a soul? the soul?

Yes and no.

Show me just one.

Is there one to show?

If so please send it my way.

a reply to: SourceTruth
This has been bothering me and I know I'm an a-hole about it, but I guess that's how I was scripted.

I agree that simulation theory is not only plausible but there will be a time when it's a mathematical certainty.

I also agree that believing you have the power to change your path or "script" is a positive thing.

You are looking for answers to deep, deep questions that have been asked throughout time and no one has answered them sufficiently.

Personally I believe the gathas is the best attempt at answering it, but the questions will never be answered.

Jesus didn't answer the questions well, the budda didn't, atheists like nietsch didn't , Muhammad didn't, John lennon failed, the zoroastrians with their gathas failed, I've failed you've failed etc. etc.

Fat Carmen sandiego and old Sarah Connor failed too. Still can't believe it's the same person but the reason I despise people like Judy so much is they don't honor the question enough and they misguide people.

Maybe you are right tho, I certainly don't have the answers. I just hate seeing people literally getting fatter before your eyes whilst talking about sacrifice.

a reply to: SourceTruth

I am a human being who has consciousness, but not all human beings have consciousness.

Are you actually referring to consciousness here which makes no sense or are trying to say that you have a conscience while not everyone else does?

That would make sense but what you have said about consciousness makes no sense.

You seem to be confusing the definitions of being conscious and having consciousness. There is a big difference between the two that you don't seem to understand.

So why not explain the difference that I don't seem to understand?

There is a difference between having a conscience and having consciousness, even a psychopath has consciousness where as they done have any conscience but I fail to understand how being conscious and having consciousness is any different.

By the very definition of the words they are basically one and the same,

Simply put

Consciousness is the state of being aware of......


and


Conscious is being aware of.....

where as what I think you are implying is being different is

Conscience which is persons moral sense of right and wrong.

Please correct me if I am wrong and explain the difference as to my understanding there is none but is if you are meaning to say conscience compared to consciousness or being conscious.

You are accusing me of "redefining words to fit my beliefs", but you are the one who is mixing the definitions of words in order to avoid actually confronting my main point.

I will wait for you to explain how being conscious and having a consciousness is any different.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: SourceTruth

What she tells you about the matrix is not something that you will find anywhere else.

Sorry, But it can found else where.

Just because you have not found it doesn't mean other haven't.

If you actually watched her videos like I told you to do you might understand what answers she provides, and you'll see how it's not like anything you have ever seen before. She not only tells you about the matrix, she tells you exactly what you need to do to master the matrix.

Who said I haven't?

Why would I say what she says is available elsewhere and not only in her videos?

You need to stop assuming things.

And I do actually have a personal verification that what she says is completely true because I have done the things she has said and I have experienced the results from that. But you are being very dismissive of her when you haven't even watched her videos.

If you have any verification of anything you would have just that little bit of wisdom not to make such idiotic assumptions.

You have nothing but assumptions which you think are some sort of truths about what others believe based on what a YouTube video is telling you.

You keep saying "not everyone believes that everyone has a soul",

Why would I say that?

I have explained numerous times why.

Why are struggling to get it?

but it is still a widely accepted idea.

Widely accepted does not equal "all" as your OP said, this is what I have saying the whole time.

I am happy you have finally seen your own assumptions.

I don't know why you don't think that it is a widely accepted idea in our society.

and I don't know why you keep saying things that were not said.

Did I say its not widely accepted or did I say that not "all" assume this as your OP said?

Not very attentive are you.

Consciousness does not explain where our awareness "comes from".

again with the inability to actually read whats written, you just quoted what I said, I didn't say it explains but is used to explain.

You are trying to nitpick at my definitions for soul and consciousness, but I can describe my claim that not everyone has a soul without using the term "soul".

No I am saying these terms already have definitions, I am just saying that you trying to redefine these terms is leading no where as you have yet to give any reasons why anyone should accept your definitions other than pointing readers to YouTube videos.

You can say "not everyone believes that everyone else has a soul", but I can say "Although not everyone believes it, it is still a widely accepted idea in our society". What do you have to say to that?

That you are changing what you initially said.

what else can I say.

I am a human being who has consciousness, but not all human beings have consciousness.

and yet you show very little awareness to what you have said and what others have said.

You try and say things have been said when they haven't and the issue is your interpretation.

an example provided above about how first you say "all" now "widely accepted" and saying that I said its not widely accepted when at no time I have because you never said that initially.

You keep changing what you are saying because of your initial assumptions fall apart.

In no way have I tried to hint that I mean "heart" when I say soul.

Try reading other posts in this very thread of yours that have also interpreted this is what you are meaning.

You seem to be confusing the definitions of being conscious and having consciousness. There is a big difference between the two that you don't seem to understand. Or rather you ignore the difference and you try to use whatever definition you can use in order to avoid actually telling me what is wrong with my statement, because you can't actually tell me what is wrong with my statement, so you try to avoid it.

No, it is you who is trying to redefine already defined words.

I have said it many times, consciousness does not require a redefinition and being conscious or unconscious certainly does require a consciousness.

I am not trying to use any other definition but the ones the words already have.

When I say "we all", I was talking about those that are part of this discussion.

Your initial post to start this thread wasn't a discussion and that is where you mentioned what "we all" assume

That is what I pointed out, that it is your assumption that "we all" assume or believe what ever you are saying.

I didn't mean it in a literal way, and I didn't mean to apply it to all of humanity, although it is a widely accepted idea. You are nitpicking at my choice of words.

Seeing as the way you have expressed yourself, I simply replied showing you how what you have said can be interpreted and how it seems more so like your own assumption rather what all others assume.

Why does that upset you?

You are accusing me of "redefining words to fit my beliefs", but you are the one who is mixing the definitions of words in order to avoid actually confronting my main point.

Not accusing you, you have proven my observations that you are trying to redefine and merge words meanings through this thread.

What is your main point?

So far all it seems to be promoting someones YouTube channel.

If your point is not everyone has a soul or now as you have changed it and say not everyone has a consciousness then that point is simply your opinion or belief.

Pointing to a YouTube videos is meaningless in real life and beliefs we hold about spirituality.

No it can't be found elsewhere, you don't even know what she says. You haven't even watched her videos.

If you are so sure that it is available elsewhere, then why don't you show me where?

You try to attack me for insignificant assumptions I was making to try to get my point across. The "assumptions" you pointed out do not affect the statement that I made, so they are irrelevant. You are trying to attack my statements based on a "assumption" that is irrelevant to the conversation.

Someone can be described as appearing conscious or acting conscious. But when we say having consciousness it means something deeper. So that is how the two can be distinguished. This is irrelevant to the main point of discussion anyways. You like to bring distraction away from the main topic because you think that you can have a better argument when you don't argue about the main point.

How is it any of this still relevant to the main statement?
This issue is simply an issue of my choice of words. I could have used a better choice of words, but this does not impact the main claim at all.

You seem to be focused on trying to prove that I am doing something wrong, instead of actually discussing the main topic.
If you stopped trying to accuse me of "redefining words" and "making assumptions", then you might not have anything to argue against me.

There is a reason I pointed to a youtube video. There is nothing wrong with pointing to a youtube video to help explain something.

My point is that there is a flaw with idea that everyone has a consciousness.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

The difference is that you use them in different contexts. You can say someone acts conscious or behaves conscious, but saying the have consciousness is different.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: SourceTruth

No, the soulless are not the few, they are the majority. They are the vast majority of the people in the game.

mate you need to put away the play station, walk away from YouTube for a while and lay off the weed.


Its one or another or combination if not all 3.






Go outside and experience life, how many people have you had a chance to deeply get to know in your short time in this matrix?

5,10,100?

I would assume its 5 or below based on your age and by what you have said so far.

Have you traveled and experienced other cultures and countries, other classes of people in your very own nation?

Have you experienced love, loss, war, famine and experienced the effects either first or even 2nd hand?

To say what you just have shows an ignorance beyond definition and could be pointing too who really is soulless or more so unconscious due to a very limited awareness other than what YouTube videos tell you.

and now to show how much you change your tone

I have doubts that everyone has a soul. It doesn't make sense for everyone to have a soul.

Now you have doubts but what I am replying too here sounds like a very solid statement that not everyone has one and actually that a majority don't.

you say it pretty obvious after you say you have doubts

It is pretty obvious most people don't have souls to me.

and many in this thread have asked how does one tell.

We know its obvious too you, the question being asked by quite a few now is how do you tell.

the funniest or saddest thing, not really sure if its funny or just sad is that this is is your answer

You have to ask your source self programmed pendulum.

are you just parroting what one of those videos told you now?

can you not answer a simple straight forward question without vague references?

What I don't understand is why doesn't anybody question if everyone has a soul?

Because everybody is an individual

You think like you do and have shown why you do.

Others may not think alike. other may devise their thoughts and beliefs not from YouTube but from other places that can be in the digital world or the real world or a combination.

This seems to bother you that there is diversity of thoughts and beliefs and your way of explaining differences seems to be others don't have a soul or have no consciousness even if that is not how you see what you saying, its very easily interpreted that way.

You speak of the matrix and how many are programmed/soulless.


You are the only one that has actually shown who is programmed within this thread.

You just call your programming "the truth" because you can personally verify it.

It is not fair for you to try to point to my age like this. I may be younger but I am much smarter than you are.

I only link to one youtube video and you start criticizing me for it? I don't deserve to be attacked for this or for my age.

My statement that most people are fine fits completely with my own life experience. I have experienced enough of life to see that everyone here is soulless. All I see is people being unenlightened and unawakened...

You don't know what a source self pendulum is. I am just telling you how I do it.
The fact that you think that it is "funny or sad" shows how you don't have respect for other people's practices. How is my practice of using a pendulum seen this way? It is another spiritual practice. There are many forms of spiritual practice. Will you say the same thing about other spiritual practices? This shows how ignorant you are and how little you know about spiritual practice.

If you ask me how I personally tell if someone has a soul, there are ways for me to tell. But if someone asks how they can tell if someone else doesn't have a soul, then that requires another more detailed answer.

My way of talking about soulless ones is not just a way of explaining differences. It is a way to explain how this reality is programmed and explain more about this reality in other ways. Soulless ones come in all different forms.

From the videos I mentioned, the channel says that there are 5000 soulless ones for every one soul. So this means there are only 1.5 million souls in the world. I do agree with this completely though. And when I accept this it can explain other things about the matrix.
But soulless ones come as all different types of people. I didn't say that it was a way of reconciling differences. You are just claiming that because you don't have another explanation for the reasoning behind my statement.
Even if I do believe not everyone has a soul, this belief is motivated by doubts. I can still have doubts about an idea while also believing in the opposite of the idea.

originally posted by: Malisa

originally posted by: SourceTruth
a reply to: Malisa

No, it is more than that. They are programmed by the matrix to act a certain way. They have "scripts" that determines who they are.

Same thing

And the Matrix thing is just a way to explain nothing at all

You could be one of them for all i know, or i could be an agent to you just the same LOL

Pointless

Have to ask this, how old are you, and when did you first learned about the Matrix?

And why you think that's some kind of truth, don't you think it was provided to you as a way to 'understand' stuff?

The matrix thing is part of the explanation of reality. It is not the whole explanation it is part of an explanation.
The point of this is not to determine who has a soul and who doesn't, it is about understanding the nature of our reality better.

I am seventeen. I first learned about the matrix when I started to question religion. Then I saw many claims that people have made about trying to explain the nature of this existence. I never completely believed in anything that they said (this includes a lot of the new age and spirituality claims) although I did have some belief in them. There was one particular youtube channel and only one youtube channel that I found to really have all the answers. Because of that one youtube channel than that is what I understand about the matrix. I heard a lot about the matrix from other sources, but nothing was like this one particular youtube channel.

I even made a thread about that youtube channel:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
But unfortunately, it was closed down for staff review. I am not sure if it will stay closed or not. I am being accused of owning the channel that I linked to in the post, which I have stated many times before is not true. I just like the channels content. They still have to make a decision about it but I hope that they see that I am not the owner of the channel that I linked to and open my thread again.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

mate you need to put away the play station, walk away from YouTube for a while and lay off the weed. Its one or another or combination if not all 3.

I don't do any of the three on a regular basis. You think I play video games? I think video games are a waste of time. I haven't played video games in years. The only game I play is chess.
The only youtube channel I watch on a regular basis is hers. The only other thing I watch on youtube is educational videos.
And I don't smoke weed. Drugs are a lower frequency activity.

You say this because of my age, and I am quite offended as it does not describe me. You are comparing me to others my age but you don't realize that I am nothing like them at all.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

These are indeed very deep questions.
The stimulation theory can be used as an analogy to describe some of the concepts of the matrix idea.
The matrix theory is not just the stimulation theory, and it doesn't have to require that this reality is a computer stimulation. But it can be compared to it in certain ways.

I just wanted to share the ideas I have with others through these threads.

a reply to: SourceTruth

Nah, those are things people of many ages do nowadays. We gotta take our arthritis meds, grab our glasses and lumbar pillows.. But we are a tough bunch and persevere!

You probably dont get the "ageism" now, but you will. Beyond anything, its simply an amusing perk of getting older. You get to unironically tell kids to get off muh lawn. Its pretty great.

You asking "where are all the others saying this" is a bit like someone trying to claim that Gibson is the only company that makes guitars. Its silly and fun to just say "the truth is out there mang!"

Honestly, you can search through this very site to find plenty of conversations that are similar that have happened over the years. Frequently in mega threads that have an enormous amount of fantastic stories. There is a lot of content, even on this very site, that explores these things in a huge diversity of perspectives (some of us really do feel thats a good thing).

The trick here is building the skill where you can figure out what someone is saying beyond the words (see: comparative religion). If I just repackage and relabel something, that doesnt mean its new. Likewise, just because we came across something "first" in our own journey doesnt mean it was actually The First.

Ya always find things in the last place you look, amirite?

Serious question here though: If some folks dont have "souls," do you understand why and how it would be a very, very bad thing if it could be quantified?

a reply to: SourceTruth

No it can't be found elsewhere, you don't even know what she says. You haven't even watched her videos.

So over the 3 threads you have made about her you haven't said anything indicating what she says?

Other posters and myself have heard what you are describing all before, some have taken the time to watch and have said its nothing new.

Yes, it can be found else where.

You said you have only searched the internet, I doubt you have searched every corner of the internet to make such a claim.

If you are so sure that it is available elsewhere, then why don't you show me where?

Read your own threads mate, a few have posted showing and mentioning what this relates too and who has said it before.

Your replies to those posts speaks volumes about how lost you are, yet you claim to be "woke".

You try to attack me for insignificant assumptions I was making to try to get my point across.

This speaks even greater volumes.

My initial post was simply an observation and opinion

your defensive replies and repeated advertising of some [person YouTube page just paint a pretty picture of immaturity which is to be expected from a teen who thinks they are smarter than everyone who disagrees.

The "assumptions" you pointed out do not affect the statement that I made, so they are irrelevant.

Actually they do so quite profoundly and you have changed your statements over and over.

First it was all believe or assume this about souls, then changed to consciousnesses, then widely accepted, etc.

If they are irrelevant why must you keep replying so defensively.

Why does it upset you that other have a different opinion about this?

Someone can be described as appearing conscious or acting conscious. But when we say having consciousness it means something deeper. So that is how the two can be distinguished.

and what makes them appear or act conscious?

This is irrelevant to the main point of discussion anyways. You like to bring distraction away from the main topic because you think that you can have a better argument when you don't argue about the main point.

How so?

You first said or implied not everyone has a soul then changed to not everyone has consciousness.

then further changed it that its is widely accepted, the belief in souls or consciousness or what ever you are talking about.

You seem to be focused on trying to prove that I am doing something wrong, instead of actually discussing the main topic.

I tried pointing that the original topic was simply the biggest assumption when you said "all assume"

You tried explaining that away by saying you meant all who were a part of the discussion,

How does that make sense when there was no discussion but only your post at the start of the thread that said "all assume"

then you started mentioning consciousness which seemed like you were saying that the soul and consciousness are one and the same.

Its OK if you think so, other might disagree, your responses to those that disagree is rather profound and its no wonder some might think you are involved with this YouTube channel or as I said more programmed than any of us as you cannot even fathom another perspective.

If you stopped trying to accuse me of "redefining words" and "making assumptions", then you might not have anything to argue against me.

I am not accusing you of this,

you did make an assumption right of the bat in your OP and it seems like you are trying to redefine conscious and consciousness,

It also seems like you are trying to imply that soul and consciousness are one and the same.

It not very clear as you keep jumping from to the other.

My point is that there is a flaw with idea that everyone has a consciousness.

please define what consciousness is then and why its not how the term is already defined.

because so far you haven't, you just said its deeper than being conscious.

It is not fair for you to try to point to my age like this. I may be younger but I am much smarter than you are.

Is saying your short time in the matrix not fair or is it true?

That is not really pointing to your age as I make no mention of it, just point out the fact of inexperience.

age has nothing to do with it, when I was your age I had already experienced a few different cultures and traveled around the globe twice by 18 year of age.

How smart am I?

I think I am quite dumb on certain scales, but you seem to have such an insight into what "all" believe and how smart or how dumb "all" are.

Sorry to tell you this but this is plain arrogance that all teenagers suffer from and most eventually mature to see it.

I hope you are one that can grow and not stay stuck in the state you are in.

I only link to one youtube video and you start criticizing me for it?

No I have now said it numerous times why I have interacted in this thread,

Not going to keep repeating myself.

you just cannot accept another persons opinion that what you are saying has been said and heard before,

hence your repeated defensive replies and then changing of what you say and implying others are saying certain things when they haven't.

I don't deserve to be attacked for this or for my age.

Its only truth being pointed out that with more age comes more experience.

More experience is gained in the real world than watching YouTube videos.

Look at how you reply to this, you interpret it as an attack, 10 years ago did you have all the knowledge you have now, if not how did you gain it, through experiences?

What takes place during these experiences and gaining of knowledge even if its from simply watching videos?

Do you not get older?

With age comes more experience, its a fact for just about everyone.

I have experienced enough of life to see that everyone here is soulless.

everyone here?

This thread?

ATS?

This reality?

You have enough experience to speak in vague terms that is all I am seeing so far

questions posed are interpreted as attacks and opposing ideas convince you that the one opposing is soulless.

All I see is people being unenlightened and unawakened...

when you live in your own little reality, your deluded dream world that has been influenced by another its very easy to believe this.

Could all these unawakened soulless beings you see all around you not a be refection of yourself?

have you even pondered any other perspective or did that feeling of awakening really close you off to the vast possibilities that manifestation can allow, like putting you even deeper asleep than you were before while deceiving you into believing you have awoken?

Unconsciously you have, hence why you need to promote this YouTube channel to get validation from other lost souls on the internet.

a reply to: SourceTruth

I don't do any of the three on a regular basis. You think I play video games? I think video games are a waste of time. I haven't played video games in years. The only game I play is chess. The only youtube channel I watch on a regular basis is hers. The only other thing I watch on youtube is educational videos. And I don't smoke weed. Drugs are a lower frequency activity.

So only occasionally?

Why would you say on a regular basis?

I guess you are just too smart and I am too dumb, so sorry for questioning you

Drugs are a lower frequency activity.

So its if a low frequency activity, its what?

Once a month in frequency?

I guess its not that regular as you say but occasional in frequency which could be considered low, that is depending on the frequency of use.

You are comparing me to others my age but you don't realize that I am nothing like them at all.

I have made no comparison about you and others your age.

What I said could apply to 50 year olds about putting away the playstaion and walking away from ......

However, you express yourself in the exact same arrogant way as many other teens do that go through an awakening of new and trippy knowledge about discovering what reality really is that they have gained from some YouTube guru or another source similar to that that closes them off to everything else.


Enjoy being awake,

I hope when the alarm clock rings its not tooooo much of a shock when you realize how deep asleep you really were.

Although some vivid dreams make some want to go back to sleep because reality is just so much less interesting than their dream world.

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Ignore InhaleExhale...... he/she is simply trying to provoke you.

The flat earth thread must have gone flat.

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No, it cannot be found elsewhere. I asked you and others to show me but you haven't been able to show me where you found it elsewhere. Some of the things she talks about may have a resemblance to things from other places, which is what is confusing you and others on this thread.

Besides, this thread is not about that channel, it is about the idea if everyone has a soul or not.

This speaks even greater volumes. My initial post was simply an observation and opinion your defensive replies and repeated advertising of some [person YouTube page just paint a pretty picture of immaturity which is to be expected from a teen who thinks they are smarter than everyone who disagrees.

You keep bringing up my age to call me immature. I knew people like you would use my age against me. I don
t see anything wrong with me showing that youtube page. You act like there is something wrong with me showing that youtube page. I was only trying to show something I saw as informative, and you are using it against me.

I replied to your initial post in an appropriate manner, and then you kept trying to argue against me. I tried to explain it, but you kept trying to argue against me. This shows what your intent was, because my response was valid but you kept trying to make me seem like I was wrong.

Actually they do so quite profoundly and you have changed your statements over and over. First it was all believe or assume this about souls, then changed to consciousnesses, then widely accepted, etc. If they are irrelevant why must you keep replying so defensively. Why does it upset you that other have a different opinion about this?

Those are only different ways of describing the same idea. You try to paint as deceptive somehow but I only did that in response to your post. I was only trying to describe it in a different way, so I would avoid using the word "soul" in response to what you said. And then I said that it was widely assumed in response to you saying that not everyone believes it. So I did indeed acknowledge your observations and changed my statements in response to it. There is nothing wrong with me doing this. This again shows what your intent is because you are trying to paint this as bad after I revised my statements in response to your comment. I was only making appropriate changes in acknowledgement of your statements.

I am not accusing you of this, you did make an assumption right of the bat in your OP and it seems like you are trying to redefine conscious and consciousness, It also seems like you are trying to imply that soul and consciousness are one and the same. It not very clear as you keep jumping from to the other.

I changed from using the word soul to using consciousness so I could describe my statement better, and this was in response to your statements. The assumption I made was just the wrong choice of words to describe what I was trying to say. I tried to change my statement in response but yet you still attack me for it.

please define what consciousness is then and why its not how the term is already defined. because so far you haven't, you just said its deeper than being conscious.

I said that you could use the two terms in different contexts to describe different things. You need to stop trying to argue over the details of my statements and start to look at the statement as a whole because you don't seem to have any arguments against it.

Is saying your short time in the matrix not fair or is it true? That is not really pointing to your age as I make no mention of it, just point out the fact of inexperience. age has nothing to do with it, when I was your age I had already experienced a few different cultures and traveled around the globe twice by 18 year of age. How smart am I? I think I am quite dumb on certain scales, but you seem to have such an insight into what "all" believe and how smart or how dumb "all" are. Sorry to tell you this but this is plain arrogance that all teenagers suffer from and most eventually mature to see it. I hope you are one that can grow and not stay stuck in the state you are in.

Alright, I'll give it to you, I am arrogant teenager. Then prove me wrong.
I may be "inexperienced" but I have fair arguments.

I have traveled around the globe twice. Just to let you know... And yes I have experienced a few different cultures.

No I have now said it numerous times why I have interacted in this thread, Not going to keep repeating myself. you just cannot accept another persons opinion that what you are saying has been said and heard before, hence your repeated defensive replies and then changing of what you say and implying others are saying certain things when they haven't.

No, I can't accept that it has been heard before, because I don't think so. Why do I have to accept that it has been heard before? I don't just accept that because you said so.

everyone here? This thread? ATS? This reality? You have enough experience to speak in vague terms that is all I am seeing so far questions posed are interpreted as attacks and opposing ideas convince you that the one opposing is soulless.

I may not have a lot of life experience, but I believe that my life experience is enough to make me think that most of the people in this world are. That is what I meant.

when you live in your own little reality, your deluded dream world that has been influenced by another its very easy to believe this. Could all these unawakened soulless beings you see all around you not a be refection of yourself? have you even pondered any other perspective or did that feeling of awakening really close you off to the vast possibilities that manifestation can allow, like putting you even deeper asleep than you were before while deceiving you into believing you have awoken? Unconsciously you have, hence why you need to promote this YouTube channel to get validation from other lost souls on the internet.

Again, what is wrong with my linking to this one youtube channel? You keep attacking me over this. And yes it is an attack because you keep needlessly pointing it out. Have you noticed that there are other youtube channels that are spiritual but I didn't link to them? There are many other spiritual youtubers that I know about, but I am not convinced by those channels. I only linked to that one channel that provides valuable information.
How are you so sure that this youtube channel that i linked to is wrong? You keep telling me I am deceived, but how are you so sure?

I have made no comparison about you and others your age. What I said could apply to 50 year olds about putting away the playstaion and walking away from ...... However, you express yourself in the exact same arrogant way as many other teens do that go through an awakening of new and trippy knowledge about discovering what reality really is that they have gained from some YouTube guru or another source similar to that that closes them off to everything else. Enjoy being awake, I hope when the alarm clock rings its not tooooo much of a shock when you realize how deep asleep you really were. Although some vivid dreams make some want to go back to sleep because reality is just so much less interesting than their dream world.

Ok, I am an arrogant teenager who thinks that he is waken up. Prove me wrong

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Yeah, I can tell he is. But he keeps making accusations against me. He is really trying to make me look badly.

Everyone can tell that he has no real arguments.