Biblical Christianity is not socialist ...

originally posted by: ElectricUniverseT
he modern IRS and it's complex taxes were also implemented by Wilson and the democrats. So some of the taxes we do have are socialistic because they are "progressive."

The 16th Amendment was the genesis for the modern IRS, this Amendment was favored by both parties. Get your facts straight.

Jesus was a radical. He told people to give to Caesar what is Caesar's when asked about paying taxes because Caesar's face, was on the coin, he healed the sick and didn't charge them a dime, and he told us to love our neighbour as much as we love ourselves. Decide if this is socialist.

Where is sit stated that nothingness created something out of nothing? As far as I'm aware no scientist has ever stated for fact what created the universe or how it came to be, only theorised it. Creationists claim to know how everything came to be with no scientific basis.

originally posted by: NotSoBigG
Where is sit stated that nothingness created something out of nothing?

Quantum Fluctuation. The Big Bang Didn't Need God to Start Universe, Researchers Say - Space.com

As far as I'm aware no scientist has ever stated for fact what created the universe or how it came to be, only theorised it.

Scientists have made public statements about their theories. They only have theories about the universe before it was observed.

Creationists claim to know how everything came to be with no scientific basis.

No, they have an interpretation which has exactly as much actual scientific evidence as any other theory.

Creationists make claim to an observer (The Creator), which science itself cannot claim.

Remember that scientists originally resisted the idea of the Big Bang cosmologies because they looked too much like the faith based Creation. Except for different time-frames, there is a great amount of similarity between modern cosmological theories of the origins of the universe/s and the Creationist beliefs.

originally posted by: JimD350
Jesus was a radical. He told people to give to Caesar what is Caesar's when asked about paying taxes because Caesar's face, was on the coin, he healed the sick and didn't charge them a dime, and he told us to love our neighbour as much as we love ourselves. Decide if this is socialist.

Exactly. All the idiots following the system are just blind sheep waiting to be slaughtered. I kind of wish the world was more 17th-18th century again where inventors shows inventions not worrying about copyright laws and have their tech taken by military. Corporations don't own most of the land, gov don't block people from passing by gov lands, less internet requirement, people teaching like they are are actually passing on knowledge physically(not just bunch of books from education system).

If any of these ever happen again they still call you communist/socialist and send the police to take your things because you paid nothing for it to help people and force you to be bankrupt. Right now gov tax every living area to death that people must make money to even be able to live in a shelter.

"Those who think they are free, are not actually free."

originally posted by: Specimen88

Same # different smell.

What the defining limit or percentage between capitalism an socialism when it come taxing?

If socialism and capitalism were the same thing then the large majority of people in the U.S., and other capitalist countries, would be poor but we are not.

Only in socialism and communism does the majority of people become poor. Even in nazi Germany eventually the socialist policies and the war caused the Germans to become poor as dirt to the point that tanks, and submarines were left to rot by the Germans because they didn't have money to buy fuel anymore, which also helped win the war.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

The 16th Amendment was the genesis for the modern IRS, this Amendment was favored by both parties. Get your facts straight.

Oh I've got my facts straight...

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For several years after Pollock, Congress did not attempt to implement another income tax, largely due to concerns that the Supreme Court would strike down any attempt to levy an income tax. In 1909, during the debate over the Payne–Aldrich Tariff Act, Congress proposed the Sixteenth Amendment to the states. Though conservative Republican leaders had initially expected that the amendment would not be ratified, a coalition of Democrats, progressive Republicans, and other groups ensured that the necessary number of states ratified the amendment. Shortly after the amendment was ratified, Congress imposed a federal income tax with the Revenue Act of 1913. The Supreme Court upheld that income tax in the 1916 case of Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad Co., and the federal government has continued to levy an income tax since 1913.
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You can't compare Hitler socialism to Stalin socialism and Mao socialism.
That is like comparing all European social policies to be the same exact thing. Real leaders don't copy every rules from another country. They see what works and try to alter it to make it better.

1. First off China was the one that was bomb back to stone age at the start of the war and had majority of the farm land cremated due to war. Famine was inevitable. The Chinese did it to themselves. "Scorch earth tactic was used against the Japs."

You can keep blaming China, they are not that evil. They know what they were doing. Stay away from Chinese wars. You can't infiltrate Yellow with White. China was already too busy civil warring. If they didn't have civil war, I'm pretty sure there would e a lot less death/famine.

2. Stalin killed Lenin and took over. He was a monster and was a military dictator more than communist. Plus he was at war with Germany, so he stayed in power for a long time as everyone had to hunt Nazi's down during the cold war to prevent WW3 first place. Stalin just like Hitler wanted to takeover the world. Stalin got somethings right though. Rich people were evil back then.

3. Hitler was more of an white supremacist unlike the French. He was killing anyone who is smart that was not white, blonde hair or blue eyed. He did not trust the other races. Hitler was not even remotely socialist for the people of Earth. He intended to takeover the world by murdering everyone to make them Nazi. Nazism is a new things, so it is an occult with a giant military(no one likes that). His biggest mistake was abandoning China over Japs and not allowing Chinese to manufacture anything unlike what Stalin gave Mao. That was his downfall. If Hitler was really smart he would've gave tiger tanks to China so they can invade Soviet while doing cross manufacturing with the Chinese.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Oh I've got my facts straight...

But you left out the Republicans the first time. Now you qualify them with the 'Progressive' tag which, since you are either ignorant or being obtuse, was used to describe nearly all Republicans of that time.

Who do you think started the Progressive Movement? Democrats? LULZ.

a reply to: incoserv

Yes it is. Christianity was a labour movement, and the gospel is basically socialism. Same rights and stature for all.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Specimen88

Same # different smell.

What the defining limit or percentage between capitalism an socialism when it come taxing?

If socialism and capitalism were the same thing then the large majority of people in the U.S., and other capitalist countries, would be poor but we are not.

Only in socialism and communism does the majority of people become poor. Even in nazi Germany eventually the socialist policies and the war caused the Germans to become poor as dirt to the point that tanks, and submarines were left to rot by the Germans because they didn't have money to buy fuel anymore, which also helped win the war.

True, you are not wrong, but capitalism has come close to digging it own grave before due to being
over supplied an no demand like over producing cars which caused the depression.

And yes Communism an socialism will break an economy, due to the eventual lack of supply an not having some kind inhibitor of sort(which is why people pay taxes).

However, since Hitler was a militant dictator, I doubt he would give away things so free, especially to migrants. He also managed to make Germany great again too, because of socialism while still having a large deficit from the previous war. He was a facist mich like Mussolini who believed in a corporate, yet militant form of government.

Unlike Stallin, who took the farmlands from the rich, an allowed the poor to swarm in like locusts. Which lead to much larger famine, while having a small government...much like Caesar.

Which is what worries about most of modern day liberal policies , it more like they want to crash the economy, while thinking they will be rich. Doesn't work like that, since stocks have to be replished one way or the other.