U.S. to states: School lunch changes none of your business

As schools begin reopening their doors to children nationwide, the U.S. government has told a federal judge that states have no power to sue over new rules they say make school meals less healthy.

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In a Monday night court filing, the government said New York, five other states and Washington, D.C., could not sue based on speculation that changes to the federally funded National School Lunch Program could cause health problems for children and require more spending on treatment.

The government also said the states lacked power to sue under a doctrine known as “parens patriae,” Latin for “parent of the nation,” because it allegedly would not protect children from harm.

“This rule recognizes that a state has no legal interest in protecting its citizens from the federal government, and that only the United States, not the states, may represent its citizens and ensure their protection under federal law in federal matters,” U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman in Manhattan said in a filing in the federal court there.

It looks like the cruelty of our government has no bounds. If you thought placing immigrant children in concentration camps was the limit of our cruelty, think again... our own children are not immune to our government's viciousness.

Anyone remember what State rights used to be? I seem to recall a few people on ATS being for the States rights and they were against government overreach. Any of those people still around? Are they still allowed to speak up?

Oh and before anyone with poor English skills comes in to complain about the label 'concentration camps':

Use of these terms is subject to debate and political sensitivities. Interned persons may be held in prisons or in facilities known as internment camps, also known as concentration camps. This involves internment generally, as distinct from the subset, extermination camps, popularly referred to as death camps.

I would suggest focusing your energy on the actual concentration camps on our U.S. soil. Semantics should not be our concern, our cruel and insensitive government should be.

Any parents here? Does it concern you now that it's a bit closer to our own kids?

a reply to: Duderino

What's a little refined grains and sodium when we're only talking about 30 mil. Kids....lower income kids that is.

Peace

a reply to: Duderino

so if the states don't want the feds dirty money they don't have to take it

my kid packs his own lunch
win/win

a reply to: Duderino

I would suggest focusing your energy on the actual concentration camps on our U.S. soil

I'd suggest you focus your energy on removing yourself as far as humanely possible from any contact or nexus to the US Federal Government or any of its crappy agencies.

Go deep and go dark!

First of all....THIS is a concentration camp.



Rounding up illegal immigrants who invade our country without following proper laws for legal entry is not a concentration camp. It is a normal procedure that happens in EVERY civilized (and uncivilized) country in the world. Even under this legal and normal process, we do not:

1. starve people
2. do scientific experimentation on people who have been placed in internment
3. torture people who have been placed in internment
4. refuse them any kind of legalized process for their case to be heard

These people are not US citizens. People placed in concentration camps were natural citizens who were targeted for their religion, rounded up and had all the things listed above...and MORE...done to them. So I don't want to hear your SPIN on whether you think people who break the law by disrespecting our borders are being put through the same thing. It's disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Now...as for school lunches....just because the federal government makes a filing does not make it gospel. This is an on-going suit and until it reaches its final conclusion with no more ability to appeal, it is not gospel. Lastly, you always have the option to take your child out of public school and put them in private school or home school. Guess what....you can feed your child whatever you want when they are home schooled or in private school. You have options...use them.

The school lunches have sucked for a very long time, so when my kids were in school I just packed them a lunch. I did complain to the school, and they told me that very few kids pay for their lunch, so they have to stretch it to feed a huge amount of kids. Not to mention all the undocumented kids who are also getting a free lunch.

Oh and before anyone with poor English skills comes in to complain about the label 'concentration camps':

Straight from Google:

Concentration Camp - a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution.

Good luck with your doom porn though.

ETA: If you don't like what the school feeds your kids, you can always pack them a lunch. But hey, it's the new norm for people to rely on the taxpayers to take care of their kids.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Duderino

so if the states don't want the feds dirty money they don't have to take it

my kid packs his own lunch
win/win

We should extend lunch to an hour from 30 minutes. This will be called hunter gatherer time... The kids learn how to source their own food and burn some calories doing it. win/win/win.

Also, it's cheaper.

So this is a very literal example of people complaining about a free lunch.

Not one single individual ‘immigrant’ child has been placed ‘in a cage’

Is EVERY single anti-Trump narrative based 100% on lies and falsehoods?

I think so

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Duderino

so if the states don't want the feds dirty money they don't have to take it

my kid packs his own lunch
win/win

We should extend lunch to an hour from 30 minutes. This will be called hunter gatherer time... The kids learn how to source their own food and burn some calories doing it. win/win/win.

Also, it's cheaper.

meh soylent green will be along any time to clean up any dissenters;
concentration camps and all you know ;
efficiency is all that matters to some.....

originally posted by: Grimpachi
So this is a very literal example of people complaining about a free lunch.

you win!

a reply to: Duderino

Berman called the new rules only “minimum requirements,” and said states remained free to enact stricter requirements.

That more or less negates the whole argument. States are free to set their own guidelines if they wish to do so, leaving no actual reason for the suit in the first place. Any State using the Federal guidelines instead of their own has chosen to do so themselves.

a reply to: Breakthestreak

Candace Owens just destroyed the left's narrative. She visited one and the illegals are treated better than the kids going to public schools.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
a reply to: Breakthestreak

Candace Owens just destroyed the left's narrative. She visited one and the illegals are treated better than the kids going to public schools.

And.......

Not one single individual one of them is an ‘immigrant’

The President opposes ILLEGAL immigration

The President is PRO immigration.

Immigrants are NOT hindered in any way. ILLEGAL immigrants are stopped, and rightfully so. Just like in EVERY country on Earth

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Duderino

Berman called the new rules only “minimum requirements,” and said states remained free to enact stricter requirements.

That more or less negates the whole argument. States are free to set their own guidelines if they wish to do so, leaving no actual reason for the suit in the first place. Any State using the Federal guidelines instead of their own has chosen to do so themselves.

Not to mention parents are free to send their kids to school with a packed lunch... Not like the kids are forced to eat the cardboard with ketchup sauce and imitation cheese.

Plus if you bring your own, you can eat the pudding even if you didn't have any of your meat.

a reply to: shooterbrody

concentration camps and all you know

It's because children have such high rates of ADHD... We had no choice.

a reply to: Duderino

I shortened your OP so that people don't have to read your latest TDS rant.

First, schools can now serve food that the children will actually eat. Leftist states don't like that.

Second, every detention facility, every jail, every prison, every holding facility on planet Earth is now a concentration camp so the deranged leftists of America can conflate Trump and Hitler.

Hope that helped.

I also hope you seek some help soon... your posts are getting more and more desperate... almost like a cry for help.

a reply to: Duderino

I guess you have conveniently forgot how much waste there was during the last decade of 'healthy lunches' and how much waste there was. That food sucked. No one would eat.

The fact you are trying to tie school lunches, state rights and concentration camps shows a level of crazy that has never been since since 2016.

There are people suing because something 'could' happen. School lunches do not cause obesity. That is a huge crock of garbage. However, it should be nutritious because sometimes it is the only meal a child will have. That is what those people suing should be more concentrated about instead of lobbying for their vendors.

This is as crazy as meatless days that NY has implemented.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Plus if you bring your own, you can eat the pudding even if you didn't have any of your meat.

I see what you did there....