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originally posted by: SuperStudChuck
a reply to: crankyoldman
From what’s I found, this was the change. Let me know if I missed something more...
Old: Lead us not
New: Do not let us fall
Some differences/key words:
Old seems more definitive (keep me from), new version is murkier to me (it’s OK if you push me or if I get close to temptation, though).
New version seems to usurp human will (don’t let me do what I want to do) vs. old way of choosing to follow God’s will (keep me from doing what a I want to do).
Word order is changed, but ultimately, “lead” is being exchanged for “do let fall”. Is this a message to “do let” the “lead”er “fall”. Proof of a coup? Perhaps too much of a stretch.
Also the word “fall” sticks out, as in autumn.
Proximity to temptation changes in my mind, too: lead us not = keep me far from vs do not let me fall = rescue me because I got too close. It seems to me the concern of Jesus in the context of this prayer would be much more to have us avoid situations near temptation as opposed to calling out for a Rescuer (that is more of a Psalmist, human prayer). Why would the pope want us in closer proximity to temptation?
And a bit more (maybe slightly repetitive): the old version is preventative vs the new version which again, is focus on already going too far down the temptation line.
No one misunderstood the old version. No need to change it. So certainly makes sense words were changed for a reason.
He once brought a case so strong against corrupt Baltimore cops that they all plead guilty immediately rather than facing trial. He got Gen Cartwright caught up so bad that Obama has to pardon him. Won cases before the SCOTUS. One of the greatest legal minds in a generation.
originally posted by: liveandlearn
From a Brian Cates twitter thead from Chaos Actual who replied with this about Rod Rosenstein.
He once brought a case so strong against corrupt Baltimore cops that they all plead guilty immediately rather than facing trial. He got Gen Cartwright caught up so bad that Obama has to pardon him. Won cases before the SCOTUS. One of the greatest legal minds in a generation.
Even with the above, I still hold out a bit on Rosenstein.
2) Look at their CAP BADGE below - remind you of Skull&Bones? Or The Punisher Teeth? Motto = Death or Glory but the "Death" is hidden on the ribbon!
French Revolution resurrected? Re-opened?
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: PilSungMtnMan
"No justice" for the coup plotters will not be acceptable to over 100 million patriots. We'll just leave it at that, for now.
originally posted by: cherokeetroy
Video of quadruple shooting in Baltimore, today
twitter.com...