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Paraphrased notes on Tom Delonge's March 27th, 2016 interview with George Knapp

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posted on Aug, 25 2019 @ 03:18 PM
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They call them 'The Others.' They're gods, with a little g. - Tom Delonge


Saw the link to reddit posted on Twitter a bit ago. This was before TTSA, and much of what's said here has been since said or written in Delonge's books, but a lot of this I wasn't aware of (or forgot if I was).

www.reddit.com...

Essentially he's saying the gods of our past myths and legends are real, and are kind of trying to pit mankind against each other so we don't notice their agenda, whatever that might be
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posted on Aug, 25 2019 @ 03:30 PM
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Sorry, but this is a bit of old news.



posted on Aug, 25 2019 @ 03:45 PM
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Well yeah, it's from 2006. But it's a transcript of an interview many have not heard



posted on Aug, 25 2019 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: vlawde

He said similar things here on ATS.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Aug, 25 2019 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: vlawde





He talks about Hillary Clinton and John Podesta and their statements about releasing UFO files. "We're in a transition here with this topic, and very big things are about to happen."

About to happen


Hillary and Podesta have (aliens) Demons



posted on Aug, 25 2019 @ 10:26 PM
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Thanks, Vlawde, always good to get a transcript or in this case a good paraphrased notation set.

I personally can't listen to either Delonge or Knapp that long so I found it a very helpful and interesting read.

Delonge's "meditation" calling of UFOs was with Greer I do believe. Tom is quite the "experiencer" it seems.



posted on Aug, 26 2019 @ 02:55 AM
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Old news. It has been posted in MMs threads aswell as in others



posted on Aug, 26 2019 @ 03:54 AM
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a reply to: vlawde

Thanks for posting the notes of his interview vlawde , I didn't listen to the interview at the time so the breakdown of his comments is useful and has been bookmarked for future reference.

I'm still unsure as to whether Tom Delonge is a driver of this latest dis-information campaign or just another play thing in the mold of Paul Bennewitz.

I found this particularly interesting.

On the topic of "why this guy?" (Why Delonge?), he insisted on telling the entire story. There was an opportunity for him to go to a rare company celebration for employees undertaking secret government technology contracts.He knew exactly who these people were and what they do (I assume he means propulsion and weapons research). He talked to people there and pitched everyone his idea about reversing people's attitudes towards the military-industrial complex. He didn't mention UFOs at first, but people seemed interested and he managed to get other meetings.


Alphabet agencies plus Steven Greer , the Woo is strong here.



posted on Aug, 26 2019 @ 07:54 AM
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originally posted by: revswim
a reply to: vlawde

He said similar things here on ATS.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


But it's still a better topic than any of the political threads!



posted on Aug, 26 2019 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler
Sorry, but this is a bit of old news.


glad you're here to speak for everyone, and not add anything of importance. This is like when the cops look at old evidence for new leads. sometimes you have to think outside the box. and if anyone hasn't seen or heard about this yet, this could provide new insights. don't be that guy whos like " this is old news" and doesn't say anything else. oh wait, you are that guy.....



posted on Aug, 26 2019 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: revswim
a reply to: vlawde

He said similar things here on ATS.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


You know what seriously annoys me? That someone would come on ATS and post their story like this...and then poof....disappear. Tom DeLonge stuck around for a whopping 30 days. Posted 1 (2?) thread(s).... Then I guess he felt ATS wasn't worth his continued attention? Maybe he felt it served its purpose? Found a better forum? I don't know....but when you read his first two sentences -



Why are we here? Probably because we all believe some of the same stuff.


It makes you wonder why he even bothered if he wasn't going to follow through....unless he just has an agenda like so many other people out to make a name for themselves rather than the truth.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 11:45 AM
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One could speculate that he had certain avenues in mind for this whole effort (TV, books etc) and didn't want to do it on a forum. Posting everything here would make most everything else redundant.

But mostly, I feel he thought a message board wouldn't have the wide audience that the other avenues they're using do.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: vlawde

He says this on Page 8 of the thread -


....I am trying to make major motion pictures that will be Internationally played and discussed. This is the biggest form of communication on the planet. But to do that we need to create a path of success with our story to get the 200 million dollars that somebody else will pay to have it made. Its hard. Art is our biggest export. If a tweet would have the same effect Id do that. People respond to films, books and events... and if it builds over time, it will be massively communicated.


Let that sink in.... There's a wealth of information and motivation in that statement.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 02:18 PM
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Yup. I guess the question is, is he looking to get rich or fund more research? I'll wager a bit of both. I have no problem with TTSA making enough money to pay for their time (salary etc) but they have to reinvest into things that matter and advance the field.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 03:58 PM
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Great, thanks! Answers it all for me.

"Relationships with countries we're not supposed to have relationships with, and defense systems that we've been building secretly with enormous amounts of money for a very long time."

Hello, my Russian friends!

"He believes that when people learn about the secret spending, there could be an uproar, but he also believes that if the truth comes out, people will be thankful to have those defenses."

OK

"He explains that there has been a systematic process where information was disseminated, then invalidated, to acclimate the world progressively. This made sense in the 40s and 50s when the system was put together, but today with the internet, instantaneous communication, etc., that method of dissemination is ineffective and antiquated, and causes people to distrust the government."

Interesting!

"He says his project is not about convincing people that the phenomenon is real, it's about explaining why it's been kept secret and why it was a good thing."

"Plausible deniability is the way it's always done so as not to scare people. Things like the Roswell crash always have a cover story to leave open the possibility that the event might not have been real. This allows people to mentally process the events and not let it affect their lives."

Aha. Makes sense.

"There's a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the bible and other religions, and the UFO phenomenon. What you have is something that doesn't like man, and either feels jealous of, or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. That just makes it that much worse when you think about it."

OMg

"Except this time, when they come to wipe us out like the other ones, we are actually ready for them. And that readiness is another example why things have been kept quiet for so long and has been a strange international partnership indeed."

Good.

"Currently, there are three main monotheistic faiths, and the rivalry between them is by design. Humans have a tendency to gather religiously as long as there is a "priestly class," meaning people will join religions as long as there is a leader or hero figure to follow. Delonge and his group want to warn the world not to fall for the deception."

^^^THIS (@haters: you've been had!)
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posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 04:06 PM
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I used to really respect Knapp as a journalist and researcher; now he has proven to be just like all the other charlatans. I guess it's no wonder He is a George Noorey clone.



posted on Aug, 27 2019 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: vlawde
Yup. I guess the question is, is he looking to get rich or fund more research? I'll wager a bit of both. I have no problem with TTSA making enough money to pay for their time (salary etc) but they have to reinvest into things that matter and advance the field.


I honestly think he has an interest in the subject matter... But I think he also sees a greedy market which has been lapping up every conspiracy or paranormal crumb thrown their way for the past 10+ years. If he and his crew can create a new and entertaining "story to tell" that he can sell to the masses, well....welcome to capitalism at its best.

Just as he said...."Art is [his] best export."



posted on Aug, 29 2019 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
I used to really respect Knapp as a journalist and researcher; now he has proven to be just like all the other charlatans. I guess it's no wonder He is a George Noorey clone.


I never respected George Knapp because right at the beginning of his public UFO appearance I knew that he was just a new member of the b.s. club to gain fame and fortune. When you're a believer instead of a clear thinker whatever you say or do or write is going to be colored by insufficient research. And even if you do proper research you may have a different mental approach to some subjects such as UFOs and "aliens". You'll either be a believer or an unbeliever. Knapp is a believer.



posted on Aug, 29 2019 @ 10:33 PM
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I try very hard to keep an open mind when it comes to how UFOlogy is open to everyone who has a point of view primarily by those who seem to primarily be believers by buying everything that comes down the pike. Being a believer automatically means you don't need evidence and you are just plain, ol' gullible. Tom Delonge, by his own mouth, is a big gullible anal cavity. You don't have to accept my opinion but it's the only one I have.


Jason Colavito - The Skeptical Xenoarchaeologist
Over the weekend, Tom DeLonge of To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science posted a speculative thread on Twitter in which he discussed his growing belief that a genetically “advanced” race of “ultra-terrestrials” have been on Earth since “Lemuria and Atlantis times” and were the inspiration for the angels and gods of early mythologies. He walked it back in part, suggesting that he was merely “thinking out loud,” but the specific argument he used should be familiar to most of you reading this blog.

Tom DeLonge
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@tomdelonge
1. I’ve often wondered- What if there was a genetically advanced race (looks like us) but smarter and way more evolved...

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Tom DeLonge
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@tomdelonge
2. what if they have been here since the Ancient Greek, Lemuria and Atlantis times? Would they be telepathic? Would they be the root of historical accounts of Angels and Greek Gods? I guess I’d call them “Ultra-Terrestrials” and stop calling them “alien” ....

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?I’m sure you recognize this as the core of Theosophy, in which Helena Blavatsky posited that human-like beings from other dimension versions of other planets—i.e. ultra-terrestrials—came to Earth in the distant past and taught the “root races” of Lemuria and Atlantis the arts of civilization. Later known as Ascended Masters, these beings had psychical powers such as telepathy and in later Theosophical views they traveled between planets in their fiery chariots, which presaged UFOs by several decades.

The specific claims that DeLonge discusses in his tweet are nearly identical to those made by Theosophists Annie Besant and C. W. Leadbeater in their 1913 book Man: Whence, How and Whither. In that book, they discussed Venusians traveling to Earth in their fiery chariots, how the ancient gods and heroes like Heracles and Buddha were beings from the Moon, Mars, and other planets, and how people alive at present embodied these ultra-terrestrial beings.

I sincerely doubt that DeLonge read Besant and Leadbeater. But Theosophical ideas were highly influential and appear in works like those of Erich von Däniken, who credulously accepted Theosophical ideas in his early books. For example, in Gods from Outer Space, he wrote that the Book of Dzyan, a text forged by Helena Blavatsky, predated humanity.

DeLonge is quite clearly showing his familiarity with 1970s paperback fringe history books, which he has said on several occasions formed the basis of his understanding of ufology. It’s also difficult not to think that there is a little bit of influence here from Peter Levenda, DeLonge’s writing partner who has been a longtime student of the occult and has long been suspected of being the true author of the Simon Necronomicon, whose sequels’ copyrights are registered under his name.



posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 03:27 AM
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originally posted by: CIAGypsy

You know what seriously annoys me? That someone would come on ATS and post their story like this...and then poof....disappear. Tom DeLonge stuck around for a whopping 30 days. Posted 1 (2?) thread(s).... Then I guess he felt ATS wasn't worth his continued attention? Maybe he felt it served its purpose? Found a better forum? I don't know....but when you read his first two sentences -


I hate to say it but ATS is loaded with toxic diatribe; especially if you disagree. Plus there are conspiracy nutters here that make your mind reel. A personality/celebrity like DeLonge comes along and he attracts the full gamut, so personally, I understand it completely.
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