David Hogg & the "Peace Plan for a Safer America" Major Gun Control Plan

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

mandatory buybacks of voter IDs!

pretty sure number 2, 3 and 4 violate multiple parts of the Constitution and won't be part of any real gun control legislation if there is any such legislation.

originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: FamCore

Cant we just make mass shootings illegal?

Brilliant idea, why has no one else thought of this? LOL
That pretty much sums it up though. They can pass all the gun laws they want but until they address the reason why lil Jonny has his finger on the trigger with his classmates in his sights, not a damn things going to change.

I don’t think most people have any idea how armed this country really is nor do they grasp the cold hard fact that gun owners aren’t going to be standing in line to turn them in. Your living on fantasy island if you think differently.

So having to show your ID to vote is "disenfranchisement" according to Democrats.

But having to show ID and go through a dozen background checks and pay extra taxes and fees for your guaranteed right to own a weapon apparently isn't? Not only is it worse voter ID but it's also poor disenfranchisement. Keeping the poor from their right to own a gun.

a reply to: funbobby

I covered the Denver "March for Our Lives" as a print journalist last year. There was a huge turnout. Somewhere north of 120K IIRC.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets

originally posted by: contextual
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

He survived a school shooting, he's staying on topic.
Black lives matter do say a lot about the violence in black communities, are you not aware of this?

I survived an ambush and suicide bomber in Afghanistan and lost good friends. So what. I don't go crying about it. Even if I did, it rarely happens in the US military, just like assault rifle attacks in the US.

What he is preaching about is not the problem with guns. As tragic as what happened at his school is, the massive weight of the gun problem is not what he experienced. It's in the ER rooms of Chicago and Baltmore every single day. His message is way off target because if he could get handgun violence way down in those areas the US would not even have a gun violence problem. We'd be one of the safest countries in the world if not the safest.

Time to put this into perspective. Hogg is the poster boy for white supremacy and white privilege. He has a soap box trying to stop murder of (mostly) white kids in schools while people in inner cities across America suffer far worse. Nothing in his plan helps that problem.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: one4all
We don't outlaw guns we use Public executions for people who murder with Guns...end of story....end of guilty people getting off on publicity while they sit alive in a Jail cell....this way we weed out the freaking genetics of these people as well as keeping them permanently off the streets.

That's the exact opposite of what needs done.

We need to keep their names out of the public domain. They shouldn't get any notoriety for murder. Dont make them famous.

You cant be famous when you are executed in Public you can only be gone.

Um, how do the majority of mass shooters end up? Bluntone is correct on this.

"We" don't put their names in the News...the crooked MSM does that on their own for their own reasons....if we nip it in the bud and 86 the O2 thieves who use guns to kill there is no conspiracy within MSM AND NO PROBLEMS...BY THE WAY....times have changed....the Charlie Manson days are over where one little freak could be platformed by the media into a monster big enough to scare everyone....lol...today its a different storyline and things move by so fast the worry about killers like this getting famous is unfounded.Blame it all on video games if you want but no one is scared of media monsters anymore.

Put it this way once they are executed if MSM keeps putting them in the news beyond the death announcement then make them stop....in fact if you police MSM instead of letting the global cabal of private owners continue brainwashing the world there can be no notoriety and no glory.

Disarming the american people is the obvious goal here. And ignoring
that psychotropics are involved in mass shootings just as much as
firearms are. Is all the proof anyone should need.
Ban psychotropics first and quit reinforcing the idea that I need
my firearms because you want them.

a reply to: one4all

Does martyrdom mean anything to you??

It doesn't take much to turn someone, criminal or no, into one.

I find some irony in the fact that when I was a young buck in elementary school we carried pocket knifes and had NRA gun safety classes in 6th grade. Most of us had our own guns or access to them, no one was shooting up schools back then. The problem is not the guns, as much as some want them to be.

a reply to: mtnshredder

Odd that many seem to have forgotten that.

When I was in high school, many of us had rifles/shotguns in the backs of our cars, or in the racks in our trucks during hunting season...

If guns were the true culprit, wouldn't there have been a rash of school shootings all over rural America?? I don't recall hearing of any...?

a reply to: FamCore
raising the age to purchase a firearm from 18 to 21

I am all for this as long as they raise the voting age to 21 too. They lowered it because of the draft. We no longer have a draft so raise it back up. If you are to be deemed mature enough to buy a fire arm at 21 then it is logical your mature enough to vote at 21 also.

originally posted by: mtnshredder
I find some irony in the fact that when I was a young buck in elementary school we carried pocket knifes and had NRA gun safety classes in 6th grade. Most of us had our own guns or access to them, no one was shooting up schools back then. The problem is not the guns, as much as some want them to be.

You are correct.
And IMO, if schools still had shooting ranges and taught firearm safety (they used to around here, but not in the last three or four decades!) these problems wouldn't exist.
Sure, there would still be kids all F'd up from medication they shouldn't be on- we've got that problem... but they wouldn't be targeting schools... because schools would be armed and capable of defending themselves.

a reply to: jjkenobi

pretty much all democrat gun control efforts for the past 150 years have been aimed at disenfranchising poor minorities.

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

ok, and?

Society allowed a generation of snowflakes to be raised. Now we are having to live with them reminding us of how stupid that was.

a reply to: seagull

LOL. The good ‘ol days. I had a buddy that always had a Winchester lever action 30/30 in the rack, we never thought anything of it. Cops would even wave or give us a nod. I remember teachers telling us to be careful and not stick each other when playing chicken with our knifes at recess. It’s funny and surreal to think about in today’s times. I miss the simpler days.

a reply to: lordcomac
Crazy how times have changed. Your right, had us kids had our guns at school we would’ve had more firepower than the Police Dept.

WOLVERINES!

a reply to: contextual

Ah, yes. BLM, a great example of civilized protest groups (cough cough) Want to know what BLM did in my hometown? There was a Holocaust Memorial event in a college area (on campus), which the Holocaust group had reserved in advance.

BLM marches into the building and takes over the building with sheer numbers and emotionally-charged protesting. When school administrators confronted them on how they did not reserve the space and were being disrespectful to the Holocaust Memorial group members of BLM said the administrators were RACIST

a reply to: FamCore

Big fat nooooo !! Hogg is a turd.