Neil Degrasse Tyson Triggers Twitter

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You think anyone could get away with that on comedy central today?
Sadly, I do not.

originally posted by: Klassified
Mr. Tyson had the gall to state facts after he recognized Saturday's shootings as "horrific"...

Celebrity astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson got an earful Sunday on Twitter after an ill-advised tweet in the aftermath of Saturday’s two horrific mass shootings that left at least 29 people dead.
The killings don’t really matter in the big picture, DeGrasse Tyson seemed to say, it’s just that darn human empathy that makes them seem so bad.

How dare he appeal to logic and common sense, instead of the strictly emotional response the media embraces in the face of tragedy. Calling them "horrific" and a "loss" is not enough Neil. You should be calling for the nation wide confiscation of guns.

Oddly enough, there are some well known people in recent history that did just that. I wonder why they aren't lauded as great leaders? Couldn't be what happened after they got everyone's guns, could it?

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For me its a difference between someone dies because of some others mistake or failure or by killing himself and someone who kills innocent people within seconds including children because he is full of hate.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Logic was lost by most of our society quite a while back.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
You think anyone could get away with that on comedy central today?
Sadly, I do not.

I do actually, if he came back the show would be a total hit.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Oh he could do it no doubt.
I think anyone else who tried would be destroyed.
Similarly to what ndt is getting now.

originally posted by: odzeandennz

originally posted by: Klassified
Mr. Tyson had the gall to state facts after he recognized Saturday's shootings as "horrific"...

Celebrity astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson got an earful Sunday on Twitter after an ill-advised tweet in the aftermath of Saturday’s two horrific mass shootings that left at least 29 people dead.
The killings don’t really matter in the big picture, DeGrasse Tyson seemed to say, it’s just that darn human empathy that makes them seem so bad.

How dare he appeal to logic and common sense, instead of the strictly emotional response the media embraces in the face of tragedy. Calling them "horrific" and a "loss" is not enough Neil. You should be calling for the nation wide confiscation of guns.

Oddly enough, there are some well known people in recent history that did just that. I wonder why they aren't lauded as great leaders? Couldn't be what happened after they got everyone's guns, could it?

Link to article

Yea, he's comparing senseless acts of violence not needed, to every day events...?


Those things occurred long before guns were invented.

He's stats only shows that we have enough to worry about. We don't have room for something not needed.


It's like saying why not kill a few more people because of the flu...

The aggregate of senseless acts in Chicago eclipses that mass shooting in one weekend... EVERY WEEKEND.

In a nation of 350 million people, there will be some statistical anomalies involving senseless acts whether it is mass shootings or just Florida Man saying hold my beer.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

I think anyone else who tried would be destroyed.

I think it all depends on the context.

The aggregate of senseless acts in Chicago eclipses that mass shooting in one weekend... EVERY WEEKEND

These shooting should be referred to as Chicago Weekends. That would dull the pain for most.

Neil always makes wonderful sideways looks at issues. But this time I'm going to disagree with him completely.

I'm not going to be an outsider just for the sake, and insist even when wrong... Doesn't make sense.


This sums it up most. I hate the twittersphere but this..

Whatever wonders you once sought to help us understand about the universe have been overshadowed by yet another marvel: (A) man insistent on shrinking the universe down to the size of his limited emotional intelligence,” tweeted author Saeed Jones.

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I think Neils head has grown in size.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I think we have lost that, or at least allowed it to be taken hostage by the msm.
NDT is beloved and almost universally acknowledged as an academic and scientific voice.
He is getting crapped on for siting simple statistics now for purely political reasons.

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Neil always makes wonderful sideways looks at issues. But this time I'm going to disagree with him completely.

I'm not going to be an outsider just for the sake, and insist even when wrong... Doesn't make sense.


This sums it up most. I hate the twittersphere but this..

Whatever wonders you once sought to help us understand about the universe have been overshadowed by yet another marvel: (A) man insistent on shrinking the universe down to the size of his limited emotional intelligence,” tweeted author Saeed Jones.

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I think Neils head has grown in size.

simple statistics do this now
there is no "context"

a reply to: Klassified

I am sure the bereaved families will take a lot of comfort in reading that.

Twat.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Klassified

I am sure the bereaved families will take a lot of comfort in reading that.

Twat.

exactly

almost writes itself
doesnt it?

The US Army uses Chicago ER's to train combat medics everyday due to the high volume of gunshots. Now, one would think Obama would be marginally embarrassed, his home town being used as the premiere training site for combat medics.

Apparently this is not the case. Nobody seems to be embarrassed by it frankly. Not him, Chicago residents, the rest of the country or the media.

a reply to: Klassified

He does bring up a good point. Like these shootings, all of these are preventable deaths. Nobody seems to care though, unless they are told to be the media, and the media only cares about ratings. In the end people are told to care about these preventable deaths only because the shootings bring in viewers more so then say medical deaths at a hospital (For Example: King5 report on hospital deaths).

Which story is worse? The one where a couple of guys go in and shoot people, or a hospital that did nothing about a health issue? Which is getting more air time, and which got pushed off as "just a local story"?

People can go off about how guns are this or that, blame violent video games, and accuse violent movies for all the gun violence we have but in the end guns aren't the issue anymore then pointy sticks are. Nope, people are the root cause of these issues. If people don't pay attention to those around them, and say something when they can no longer intervein, then it should also be put off on to them for being part of the issue. These so called "Red Flag" laws won't do anything because they rely on people around the shooter to step up and say something. SO unless a law is made that say's that if you knew the person was going to be a danger, and you did nothing, then you should be held accountable as well. Otherwise this whole "Red Flag" topic is just an open door to a "False Flag" episode.

Plato wrote that in a Republic every citizen has the responsibility to both act in a civil manor and prevent crimes against the republic by not conducting ones self in a criminal manor as well as reporting or stopping crimes themselves. This notion of "Bitches-get-Stitches" is BS put out there by people wanting to take advantage of other, and by allowing this mentality to spread we are only fostering the problem. Everyone always asks, "this didn't happen before, what's changed?" That's what changed, the idea that everyone is responsible for society, vs now where everyone just want to blame others for their misdeeds. Some of us are old enough to remember when if we did something stupid it was reported by our neighbor to our parents without a big "to-do" about it, but now day's everybody's too afraid to do that because it might "offend" someone.

So while some might not like what Tyson wrote, the facts are correct, and it seems that people don't like the truth. The deaths he listed are preventable by a vigilant society, just like these shootings would have been (and if reports are correct a couple of mass shootings were).

a reply to: Klassified

I am more than a little surprised, in a good way, that that was his response.

It gives me a little more hope.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Klassified

I am sure the bereaved families will take a lot of comfort in reading that.

Twat.

It looked to me he was purely talking about how people have a conversation, primarily on twitter. People speak with their emotions rather than putting things in context. People act like mass shootings are the primary problem of our country, yet they are the symptom of deeply rooted problems.

One of the problems is you aren't allowed to speak unless it's off of one of the approved scripts... Or people will call you a twat.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
I think we have lost that...

I think most people who aren't politically constipated haven't.

a reply to: Guyfriday

Plato wrote that in a Republic every citizen has the responsibility to both act in a civil manor and prevent crimes against the republic by not conducting ones self in a criminal manor as well as reporting or stopping crimes themselves.

Responsibility is important, especially individual responsibility.
Well posted.

So while some might not like what Tyson wrote, the facts are correct, and it seems that people don't like the truth.

Facts, it seems, can only be brought forth in certain circumstances, and by certain people.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I think most people who aren't politically constipated haven't.

your guestimate as to this number?
40% of voters would be mine