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originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
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originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: Blaine91555
I'm not sure I get what they would be hoping to find. What the Richat Structure is, is well known. Before I watch it, are they just playing off the myth of it being something other than the geologic feature it's know to be, a heavily eroded dome?
Near as I can tell people just ignore that it's been studied and mapped and instead embrace the odd made up theories about it being something else. "Atlantis in the Desert" being in the title would make me think it's not worth the bother.
I know they have found interesting artifacts in the area, but that does not change the facts about what it actually is. An igneous intrusion caused the uplift, so there really is no mystery as to what it is.
Sure it could be naturally formed, but that doesn't mean mankind couldn't have built a city on it and modified it a little bit.... right??
In Plato's metaphorical tale, Poseidon fell in love with Cleito, the daughter of Evenor and Leucippe, who bore him five pairs of male twins. The eldest of these, Atlas, was made rightful king of the entire island and the ocean (called the Atlantic Ocean in his honor), and was given the mountain of his birth and the surrounding area as his fiefdom.
Poseidon carved the mountain where his love dwelt into a palace and enclosed it with three circular moats of increasing width, varying from one to three stadia and separated by rings of land proportional in size. The Atlanteans then built bridges northward from the mountain, making a route to the rest of the island. They dug a great canal to the sea, and alongside the bridges carved tunnels into the rings of rock so that ships could pass into the city around the mountain; they carved docks from the rock walls of the moats. Every passage to the city was guarded by gates and towers, and a wall surrounded each ring of the city. The walls were constructed of red, white, and black rock, quarried from the moats, and were covered with brass, tin, and the precious metal orichalcum, respectively.
originally posted by: Blaine91555
originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: Blaine91555
I'm not sure I get what they would be hoping to find. What the Richat Structure is, is well known. Before I watch it, are they just playing off the myth of it being something other than the geologic feature it's know to be, a heavily eroded dome?
Near as I can tell people just ignore that it's been studied and mapped and instead embrace the odd made up theories about it being something else. "Atlantis in the Desert" being in the title would make me think it's not worth the bother.
I know they have found interesting artifacts in the area, but that does not change the facts about what it actually is. An igneous intrusion caused the uplift, so there really is no mystery as to what it is.
Sure it could be naturally formed, but that doesn't mean mankind couldn't have built a city on it and modified it a little bit.... right??
Not could be, it is. Mapped studied and understood. Yes, it could have been used by an old civilization, but that's just throwing stuff at the wall to see if it sticks IMO. It's concentric circles, so therefore it must be the mythical city of Atlantis.
Atlantis, which, as I was saying, was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia, and when afterwards sunk by an earthquake, became an impassible barrier of mud to voyagers sailing from hence to any part of the ocean. The progress of the history will unfold the various nations of barbarians and families of Hellenes which then existed, as they successively appear on the scene;
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: muzzleflash
So I ask you, what are the chances this was also known as Eridu? And the site in Summer is incorrect?
Speaking of Atlantis, or the ringed city, some of the things said about it may be blown out of proportion. In your artist's rendition it leaves you with the feeling that every square foot on the rings were taken up with structures. This, may not be the case. Though, the large structures in the center island, were there, it may not have been what we were lead to believe.
originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: All Seeing Eye
Yeah I found that art awhile back when I was looking into the Richat and realizing that this is by far the best candidate for Atlantis. When I saw how excited you were by the topic I knew you'd really appreciate it too.
The findings come from analyses of dust blown west from Africa and dropped into the Atlantic Ocean. Researchers sifted through 30,000 years of dust and ocean bottom muck retrieved with ocean drilling ships. The changing levels of windblown dust in the ocean sediments provide scientists with clues to Africa's climate and how it has changed over time. Simply put, a lot of dust means drier conditions and less dust means a wetter environment
originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Guyfriday
All of the alternative Atlantian hypothesis are absurd (except Antarctica) and the Richat fits the descriptions handed down to us perfectly.
Wiki Atlantis
In Plato's metaphorical tale, Poseidon fell in love with Cleito, the daughter of Evenor and Leucippe, who bore him five pairs of male twins. The eldest of these, Atlas, was made rightful king of the entire island and the ocean (called the Atlantic Ocean in his honor), and was given the mountain of his birth and the surrounding area as his fiefdom.
Keep in mind this map based on Herodotus' accounts is a vague representation. Notice where the mountain of Atlas is located - the Richat is directly south of this.
Also imagine that the seas were very different in this time - that the Sahara and Western Africa were islands rather than the currently fully emerged section of the continent we now consider it. The supposed earthquakes could have easily changed the landscape and shifted the elevation and sea levels. Only a small change of a small area is required to have accomplished this in a limited geographical zone.
Also note that the map showing the Nile going west is not as we know it today - going south instead. This is a discrepancy that we must reconcile.
Poseidon carved the mountain where his love dwelt into a palace and enclosed it with three circular moats of increasing width, varying from one to three stadia and separated by rings of land proportional in size. The Atlanteans then built bridges northward from the mountain, making a route to the rest of the island. They dug a great canal to the sea, and alongside the bridges carved tunnels into the rings of rock so that ships could pass into the city around the mountain; they carved docks from the rock walls of the moats. Every passage to the city was guarded by gates and towers, and a wall surrounded each ring of the city. The walls were constructed of red, white, and black rock, quarried from the moats, and were covered with brass, tin, and the precious metal orichalcum, respectively.
This is so obvious and right in front of our faces, it's incredible it has only now in the last few years become well known.
Keep in mind that the mount of Atlas was due north and that the fastest route to the inner Mediterranean was to go by sea - as this was a seafaring civilization - and they would travel along the west coast of the African islands up around the straights of Gibraltar (pillars of Hercules) - and then in past Spain/Libya.
Now, this map is a reconstruction of the assumed Atlantian empire based off the limited information drawn on in Ignatius L. Donnelly's Atlantis: the Antediluvian World, 1882:
He was assuming that the current West African landscape was exactly as we know it today - he was forgetting that mass earthquakes had changed that landscape ending the the ultimate destruction of the Atlantian 3 ringed island structure.
Cmon man you are actually suggesting Italy (what??) or somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic (how is this part of Atlas mountains?) when we have this staring us right in the face??
Look at the evidence of the massive mudflow ---
This has gotta be it! Fit's perfectly with our actual historical accounts!!
originally posted by: Blaine91555
I know they have found interesting artifacts in the area, but that does not change the facts about what it actually is. An igneous intrusion caused the uplift, so there really is no mystery as to what it is.
originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Guyfriday
All of the alternative Atlantian hypothesis are absurd (except Antarctica) and the Richat fits the descriptions handed down to us perfectly.
Wiki Atlantis
In Plato's metaphorical tale, Poseidon fell in love with Cleito, the daughter of Evenor and Leucippe, who bore him five pairs of male twins. The eldest of these, Atlas, was made rightful king of the entire island and the ocean (called the Atlantic Ocean in his honor), and was given the mountain of his birth and the surrounding area as his fiefdom.
Keep in mind this map based on Herodotus' accounts is a vague representation. Notice where the mountain of Atlas is located - the Richat is directly south of this.
Also imagine that the seas were very different in this time - that the Sahara and Western Africa were islands rather than the currently fully emerged section of the continent we now consider it. The supposed earthquakes could have easily changed the landscape and shifted the elevation and sea levels. Only a small change of a small area is required to have accomplished this in a limited geographical zone.
Also note that the map showing the Nile going west is not as we know it today - going south instead. This is a discrepancy that we must reconcile.
Poseidon carved the mountain where his love dwelt into a palace and enclosed it with three circular moats of increasing width, varying from one to three stadia and separated by rings of land proportional in size. The Atlanteans then built bridges northward from the mountain, making a route to the rest of the island. They dug a great canal to the sea, and alongside the bridges carved tunnels into the rings of rock so that ships could pass into the city around the mountain; they carved docks from the rock walls of the moats. Every passage to the city was guarded by gates and towers, and a wall surrounded each ring of the city. The walls were constructed of red, white, and black rock, quarried from the moats, and were covered with brass, tin, and the precious metal orichalcum, respectively.
This is so obvious and right in front of our faces, it's incredible it has only now in the last few years become well known.
Keep in mind that the mount of Atlas was due north and that the fastest route to the inner Mediterranean was to go by sea - as this was a seafaring civilization - and they would travel along the west coast of the African islands up around the straights of Gibraltar (pillars of Hercules) - and then in past Spain/Libya.
originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: muzzleflash
Thanks for the reply. Fortunately, these guys did take ground penetrating radar. UNFORTUNATELY, they were not allowed to use it. Local officials would not permit the use of GPR. This is one of the main reasons I found it anticlimactic.
Another reason being, that none of the rings seemed to have enough elevation from the supposed water ways. Making it very difficult to have any type of structures built there (if inundated with water in the past).
originally posted by: Blaine91555
I'm not sure I get what they would be hoping to find. What the Richat Structure is, is well known. Before I watch it, are they just playing off the myth of it being something other than the geologic feature it's know to be, a heavily eroded dome?
originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Guyfriday
All of the alternative Atlantian hypothesis are absurd (except Antarctica) and the Richat fits the descriptions handed down to us perfectly.