France Wants Orbital Laser Weapons

a reply to: MisterSpock

The French military, taking out the complete lack of political will, is nothing to sneeze at. Their civilian population and government may come across as laughable, but don't underestimate their military.

As for any first world power, using the technical definitions, the only current first world power right now is the US. China is moving in that direction, but they'd be considered a low second rank, or high third rank power still. Russia would probably currently be considered a third rank power.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: MisterSpock

The French military, taking out the complete lack of political will, is nothing to sneeze at. Their civilian population and government may come across as laughable, but don't underestimate their military.

As for any first world power, using the technical definitions, the only current first world power right now is the US. China is moving in that direction, but they'd be considered a low second rank, or high third rank power still. Russia would probably currently be considered a third rank power.

I'm not concerned about the abilities of the french military(for the most part), just those they take orders from. The government. I'm not underestimating them(the capabilities of the individual soldier), just accurately estimating those they take orders from.

Servicemen in just about all countries (first or second, even third) are very capable. Looking to the leadership(in this case, france) is what tells me their "capabilities" are no longer relevant to not only protecting their own country, but enforcing the "will" of their own country against foreign influences.

Fancy words aside...

They a bunch of cucks......

a reply to: Zaphod58

I think I'd rank China higher than that. They're earning their way up fast and I suspect could project power as well as, if not better, than the European powers. With what the Brits have done to the Royal Navy, I'd even give the Chinese the upper hand.

originally posted by: anzha
a reply to: Zaphod58

I think I'd rank China higher than that. They're earning their way up fast and I suspect could project power as well as, if not better, than the European powers. With what the Brits have done to the Royal Navy, I'd even give the Chinese the upper hand.

If you factor in (classical) non conventional warfare....like cyber and economic factors. I'm right there with you. China is a huge on those combined fronts.

Sharks in space with friggin lasers on their heads

Is that too much to ask..number 2?!

a reply to: anzha

They're getting there. They'll be a high second in the next 10 years. I only rank then there because their power projection is all escort type ships.

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
In Frances defence I would also like Orbital laser weapons and if I had the money/resources I would probably look into it for myself.
So while I’m not happy France is going down this path it would be hypocritical of me to criticise

I think France would be better off spending the money to address the concerns of the Yellow Vests, but ...

You know who could really use an orbital laser satellite? ATS

We have plenty of expertise on this site to get a good start. But we'll need money. For such a worthy cause, I'll accept a few more pop-up ads. We could start a GoFundMe. We could offer our services to influence elections and push agendas. Maybe some insider trading tips. Once we have the money, we get Val Kilmer to build us laser.

But once our Doom Beam 1 is in orbit, (my idea, I get to name it), then ATS can really enforce the T&Cs. Anyone steps out of line? ZAP! There goes your rose bush.

And, yes, I might reconsider this idea when I'm drinking coffee instead of tequila.

a reply to: anzha
Personally, I think we (USA) have had stuff up there since the Reagan days. Star Wars, Brilliant Pebbles, etc...

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
In Frances defence I would also like Orbital laser weapons and if I had the money/resources I would probably look into it for myself.
So while I’m not happy France is going down this path it would be hypocritical of me to criticise

I think France would be better off spending the money to address the concerns of the Yellow Vests, but ...

You know who could really use an orbital laser satellite? ATS

We have plenty of expertise on this site to get a good start. But we'll need money. For such a worthy cause, I'll accept a few more pop-up ads. We could start a GoFundMe. We could offer our services to influence elections and push agendas. Maybe some insider trading tips. Once we have the money, we get Val Kilmer to build us laser.

But once our Doom Beam 1 is in orbit, (my idea, I get to name it), then ATS can really enforce the T&Cs. Anyone steps out of line? ZAP! There goes your rose bush.

And, yes, I might reconsider this idea when I'm drinking coffee instead of tequila.

I don’t wanna get caught up in minutiae as your idea has merit but shouldn’t we call it the “ Deny ignorance.... or else” beam?

France are setting up a body which will undoubtedly form the basis of a EU-wide initiative. They are just getting in there first so they can run the show.

However, on the quite the UK has joined the US-led Operation Olympic Defender which aims at deal with space debris and detterrece against hostiles in space.

Lol @ France.

a reply to: UpIsNowDown

That made me chuckle the wine tariff's I can imagine it now Macron pacing up and down demanding a way of quietly ruining California's vineyards like a James bond villain and a French - or perhaps German - boffin suggesting they might use orbital lasers to cause a drought over California and ruin the grape harvest there.

You know though jokes aside as the climate warm's there are plenty of places with the perfect soil all around this planet that will become suitable for growing grapes WHILE the current location's such as the French wine producing areas due to climate change will perhaps actually become completely unsuitable for growing grapes of the variety's used in wine making.

I can see it now wine grown in Edinburgh on the sides of the old castle making use of the old volcanic soil there becoming some of the best wine in the world - and I don't want to see it when my Scottish brethren whom live to the north of me get so drunk that they end up lying plastered with there kilts around there shoulders and there nether regions terrifying there neighbours.

Jokes aside you know Lasers can actually be used constructively - even space based weapon's grade one's and in fact we may very well NEED such a set up if we are ever to survive the next big asteroid that is due to eventually hit the earth and cause a Global Extinction Level Event, they may not be able to do much more than break such an asteroid into smaller chunk's if one is ever detected but at least that would give us more of a fighting chance to survive as a species - but are we meant too or would that really be our time to go?.

In theory laser based technology could one day replace drilling apparatus, be able to drill were metal bit's can not and even be used to release geological pressure, prevent catastrophic build up of magma inside volcano's and even trigger controlled seismic event's to stave of major earthquakes that could happen later.

I just do not know if even military laser technology is that advanced yet but if it drives the technology maybe it is a good thing AND as rogue nations such as Iran achieve nuclear capability maybe we NEED these type of weapon's to use to prevent them from becoming uncontrollable threats as a better alternative to making a pre-emptive strike upon them if they do develop serious nuclear capability because if they do or have and they are going to use there weapon's it may very well come down to just that very action, these are not going to be controllable even by there allies and Iran would be putting that power into the hand's of men whom think they are going to paradise if they use those nukes so?.

There are mobile anti-sat Units that are no bigger than a large Motorhome.....independently functioning not tied to a grid.

Unless you are burrowed into or hiding behind the Moon you are a dead Duck in Space.

Only Countries 150 years behind technologically are putting weapons up in Space.

Rumor has it Russia is already home to some type of autonomous energy weapon that they DO NOT CONTROL OR FULLY UNDERSTAND that is buried underground and that can remediate Asteroid+ sized threats.

a reply to: one4all

The cauldron's, the local people there have a legend of alien being like God's fighting and those cauldrons having been put there to defend against another God from the sky, they are said to disappear into the ground and some are claimed to be hollow metallic dome like structures but researchers that tried to get close enough always get sick with almost radiation poisoning like symptom's.
This is perhaps not accurate but is one of the first video's brought up by a quick search for Siberian Cauldron's.


As for the Tunguska event I am of the opinion it was a damaged alien craft and they deliberately avoided our primitive population centres perhaps laying down there own lives to save ours before that craft exploded in the are creating a vast area of destruction and a deep circular pressure depression - it is not actually a crater it was created by the force of the explosion in the sky above it depressing the ground into a deep circular bowl like feature - if they had meant harm to us they could have landed there ship anywhere and gotten off it, it was heading in one direction and apparently changed direction somewhere over Europe before it explored over the sparsely populated Siberian wilderness, asteroids and meteors do not change direction like that, also it was described as appearing like a golden cylinder or cigar and smoking so a cigar shaped UFO of some kind.
So I doubt the Siberian Cauldron's had anything to do with the Tunguska event though they could be an ancient weapon system of some kind that is still functional or at least partially functional - perhaps there creators are long gone, perhaps even destroyed by whatever they were meant to defend against but they remain since attacking and destroying them may have been more trouble than it was worth - after all there creators had already been destroyed by what or whomever?.

a reply to: JohnS23

Well you could say that or you could look at the futuristic vision of there science fiction writers or the great inventions of there many inventors whom were once upon a time the greatest rival's of there British cousin's and were always racing to outdo one another with the Italian's and German's making complementary appearances at the same time - the German's were a tad less inventive than there Gallic cousin's whom were about equal to we Brits, Roll's Royce even paid Citroen for a licence to use there Hydraulic suspension on Roll's Royce cars as it was and it remains' the most stable suspension technology on the market, that is why you would see Citroen car's with TV camera's on top of them racing around race courses as the camera was completely stable despite the uneven ground under the fast moving vehicle which would otherwise (if not for that suspension) have shaken the camera's to pieces.

One thing you should never do is put the French down as stupid because it is one thing they most definitely are not, like any nation they have there good and there bad though no one is perfect.

France also has a lot of space technology and are a main member of the ESA.