The 2 Creatures That Could Deny Evolution !

originally posted by: Skyfox81
a reply to: cooperton

Evolution is an explanation of the diversity of life.

This is the natural phenomena that Darwin observed, and created Darwinism, a theory of biological evolution.

Which in itself evolved into the current theory the MES, bout 150 years of study.

When technology hit the level where we can really look into cells, molecules & genes, we can see patterns from the past to the present.

Thereby confirming the family/tree/bush of life. Diversity on another level. And showing that the MES is the best explanation to date.

Genetics and biology are the main points towards the MES.

Im sure Goodman Pete will correct me on some points.

Evolution is complete nonsense, spewed as being an actual 'science'

These people that think they can overturn facts by not understanding them really are amazing, similar to this morning when I had some Jehovah's witnesses at the door, I can't believe they still try to get people interested in that nonsense in this day and age.

Evolution needs a hand to thin out the slowest of the herd.

a reply to: moonrunner

a reply to: turbonium1

... as opposed to creationism which is a pillar of rigorous scientific inquiry!

God wins!

a reply to: puzzlesphere

God always wins.

a reply to: Gothmog

Space Aliens did it.
God did it.
Bill and Ted did it.

Pick one, two or all 3 at once.

originally posted by: Heruactic
a reply to: Gothmog

Space Aliens did it.
God did it.
Bill and Ted did it.

Pick one, two or all 3 at once.

Please expand on how "Bill and Ted" did it.

originally posted by: Gothmog

Please expand on how "Bill and Ted" did it.

Ironically, It's more probable than random chance doing it.

a reply to: cooperton

From your point of view... yes... Bill & Ted is just as likely as your god... essentially the same thing... both are stories.

originally posted by: puzzlesphere
a reply to: cooperton

From your point of view... yes... Bill & Ted is just as likely as your god... essentially the same thing... both are stories.

No no no, bill and ted are like 0.0000000000000...(almost infinite number of 0's)....00001% likely to have created the universe. Random chance is a solid 0%.

a reply to: cooperton

Where did you pull your probabilities from? Same place as your god? Imagination? lol

Or nowhere... just like your god, pulling a species out of a hat!

originally posted by: puzzlesphere
a reply to: cooperton

Where did you pull your probabilities from? Same place as your god? Imagination? lol

Or nowhere... just like your god, pulling a species out of a hat!

Given the ordered systems all throughout the cosmos, geology, chemistry, biology, physics, and so on, there is an absolute 0% chance this universe was caused by random chance.

Random chance most certainly did not create the ordered universe we see around us, and within us.

a reply to: cooperton

So you can show me the math then?

Rather than just your opinion?

I'd like to see those probabilities mathematically defined thank you... otherwise you are pulling numbers from thin air, just like god creating a species. Just like the whole concept of creationism.

No you can't show the numbers... because you are caught in a cognitive dissonant feedback loop, where you think you believing it makes it so... lol

originally posted by: puzzlesphere
a reply to: cooperton

So you can show me the math then?

Rather than just your opinion?

I'd like to see those probabilities mathematically defined thank you...

Well... the existence of mathematically predictable systems shows that we were not created by random chance. Instead, It is a well-designed intelligent system, proven by the meticulous physical laws that help keep our world in working order.

Your random chance atheist religion is the least probable solution to the question of life.

End of story.

Good night.

I still wish peace for you.

a reply to: cooperton

Avoid the question completely, don't provide numbers... state some theological BS... claim victory and leave.

Classic creationist!

Bravo!
Good night, no hard feelings!... just gobsmacked at your mental gymnastics!

a reply to: puzzlesphere

Dude..

a reply to: Gothmog

One day, Ted (Theodore) Logan (ain’t that Wolverine’s name??) looked over at Bill S. Preston, Esq., (ain’t he the fifth Beatle??) and said with a locked jaw, “I can’t quit you...”

And that is the rest of the story!

originally posted by: puzzlesphere
a reply to: cooperton

Avoid the question completely, don't provide numbers... state some theological BS... claim victory and leave.

Classic creationist!

Bravo!
Good night, no hard feelings!... just gobsmacked at your mental gymnastics!

Have you ever heard of laws being created by random chance? No. Never. Laws always requires intelligent and rational beings to enact them. The laws of the universe are no exception. They require an intelligent faculty to create them. This is why there is a 0% chance that random chance created our universe. You can believe otherwise, but it is not based in logic.

a reply to: cooperton

"Law" is a human concept that we use to best describe some fundamental aspect of the universe.

The way we make "laws" has nothing at all to do with how our best description of the fundamentals (laws) of the universe work, or came to be... you are creating a false equivalence between "human laws" and "natural laws".

You are then using that false equivalence as some type of justification of the unknown... you don't know how the fundamentals of the universe came to be, and it is complete arrogance and ignorance to claim that you "know" for sure.

This is why creationism fails against science.

What you are doing, is twisting logic to suit your pre-defined belief.

You are grasping at thin air.

Everything you state is based on a baseless belief in a human created story.

originally posted by: puzzlesphere
a reply to: cooperton

"Law" is a human concept that we use to best describe some fundamental aspect of the universe.

The way we make "laws" has nothing at all to do with how our best description of the fundamentals (laws) of the universe work, or came to be... you are creating a false equivalence between "human laws" and "natural laws".

They are equivalent. You saying they are not is based on nothing. Me saying laws require intelligence is based on legal systems throughout the world requiring immense intelligent input. Do you have an example of a law coming to be at random? Do you want to argue that physical laws and chemical laws should be renamed to something other than laws? If not, then it is most probable that the chemical and physical laws were created by intelligence.

You can go ahead and ignore the obvious conclusion, but realize how baseless your faith is.