Houses Passes Ammendment Questioning Penatagon About Weaponizing Ticks

House Passes Amendment Ordering Pentagon To Review Whether U.S. Experimented With Weaponizing Ticks

Well this struck me as an ATS headline! I don't know if this effort is so much about conspiracies in bio weapon warfare, or more an effort to receive funding. I can't find anything specific from Rep Smith himself, but nonetheless, makes for an interesting dialogue.

New Jersey Republican Rep. Chris Smith to order the Pentagon inspector general to conduct a review about whether the military experimented with making ticks into biological weapons. The amendment, passed by the House last week by a voice vote, would require the Pentagon inspector general to examine "whether the Department of Defense experimented with ticks and other insects regarding its use as a biological weapon between the years of 1950 and 1975."

Smith said the investigation would explore the following questions:
-What were the parameters of the program?
-Who ordered it?
-Was there ever any accidental release anywhere or at any time of any diseased ticks?
-Were any ticks released by design?
-Did the program contribute to the disease burden?
-Could any of this information help current-day researchers find a way to mitigate these diseases?

Could be interesting hearing some answers, if any. Books have been written on the subject about the conspiratorial aspect of ticks as bio weapons but nothing has ever been substantiated. Lyme disease did not start during the time frame of suspected activities at Plum Island. Supposedly the Pentagon spent millions of dollars on replicating tick borne diseases during the 60-70's. My thought is, however...who knows? Nothing would really surprise me any more these days. I will refrain from heading down this rabbit hole but ATS search will reveal various thread on that matter.

Smith has been a fierce advocate of raising awareness about Lyme disease and increasing prevention efforts. Smith, the co-chair of the House Lyme Disease Caucus, earlier this year introduced the "Ticks: Identify, Control, and Knockout Act'' (TICK Act), a bill to come up with a national strategy to fight Lyme disease. If passed, the measure would authorize an additional $180 million to boost funding for Lyme disease research, prevention and treatment programs. The CDC currently spends about $11 million on Lyme disease research.

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Well I am for more funding/resources to research thus disease, for it is a growing issue, particular in certain areas of the US(Northeast) The number of cases has tripled since the 90's and increases at the rate of about 10,000 per year.

There seems to be some reservation among physicians in diagnosing Lyme disease and perhaps putting more light on the issue will help to clarify and expand upon the subject. It used to be hard to test for Lyme disease but now it is easier and they are finding that previous diagnosis of some chronic pain fatigue and fibromialgia cases may be from Lyme disease.

If the goal of this is indeed for additional funding, well kudos for a creative and provocative framework I suppose.

A televised hearing would surely be interesting.

a reply to: waftist

I hope not. Here in NJ ticks are a big problem. I go to the forest a lot.

a reply to: Trueman

Yep...Tennessee is out of control infested too. With multiple species, including the lonestar tick, with the meat allergy disease.

Not joking, I had one latch on my peehole the other day.
I looked like that dude in the leech scene of Stand By Me.
Major Heeeeeeeebeeeeeejeeeeeebeeees!!

Now I regret reading the op and feel like s!$% is crawling on me now.

a reply to: waftist

They will simple say the files were destroyed along with all the stuff we burnt shredded and ect when the Church committee ask for stuff.

a reply to: Mandroid7

Dude, I feel you! Had one attached to the side of my peehole as well, sucker was dug in, was just barely able to grab him and pull
Him out with quite the loud snap! Thank god I got it all and didn't just yank the body off and leave the head inside, ewwwww......!!

Lyme disease was the first thing I though about reading this headline. There are cases of it here in Australia, there maybe some slight regional differences going on with the specific toxins involved, but heaps of similarities around the world with it.

Sounds like the door to better treatment options is getting pushed open.

Looks like some people are ticked off 😎

originally posted by: waftist

House Passes Amendment Ordering Pentagon To Review Whether U.S. Experimented With Weaponizing Ticks

Well this struck me as an ATS headline! I don't believe it is so much about conspiracies in bio weapon warfare, but it sure sounded like it.

New Jersey Republican Rep. Chris Smith to order the Pentagon inspector general to conduct a review about whether the military experimented with making ticks into biological weapons. The amendment, passed by the House last week by a voice vote, would require the Pentagon inspector general to examine "whether the Department of Defense experimented with ticks and other insects regarding its use as a biological weapon between the years of 1950 and 1975."

Smith said the investigation would explore the following questions:
-What were the parameters of the program?
-Who ordered it?
-Was there ever any accidental release anywhere or at any time of any diseased ticks?
-Were any ticks released by design?
-Did the program contribute to the disease burden?
-Could any of this information help current-day researchers find a way to mitigate these diseases?

Could be interesting hearing some answers, if any. Books have been written on the subject about the conspiratorial aspect of ticks as bio weapons but nothing has ever been substantiated. Lyme disease did not start during the time frame of suspected activities at Plum Island. My thought is, however..who knows? Nothing would really surprise me any more these days. I will refrain from heading down this rabbit hole but ATS search will reveal various thread on that matter.

Smith has been a fierce advocate of raising awareness about Lyme disease and increasing prevention efforts. Smith, the co-chair of the House Lyme Disease Caucus, earlier this year introduced the "Ticks: Identify, Control, and Knockout Act'' (TICK Act), a bill to come up with a national strategy to fight Lyme disease. If passed, the measure would authorize an additional $180 million to boost funding for Lyme disease research, prevention and treatment programs. The CDC currently spends about $11 million on Lyme disease research.

source
Well I am for more funding/resources to research thus disease, for it is a growing issue, particular in certain areas of the US(Northeast) The number of cases has tripled since the 90's and increases at the rate of about 10,000 per year.

There seems to be some reservation among physicians in diagnosing Lyme disease and perhaps putting more light on the issue will help to clarify and expand upon the subject. It used to be hard to test for Lyme disease but now it is easier and they are finding that previous diagnosis of some chronic pain fatigue and fibromialgia cases may be from Lyme disease.

If the goal of this is indeed for additional funding, well kudos for a creative and provocative framework I suppose.

A televised hearing would surely be interesting.

I've had lymes disease 3 times.......just look at the proximity of Plum Island NY [bio-weapons lab ?]and Old Lyme Conn....seems to be a connection......hmmmmm, where could the name for lymes disease have come from ?

I hear some of you guys, and I recently had 3 on me down in the nether regions and I immediately began googling info on Lyme disease. I have 4 friends/acquaintances that have it(clinically diagnosed) and it has some bizarre symptoms. One of them's hands swole up like balloons! Supposedly if you get them off of you within 24 hours you minimize chances of contracting Lyme, so whenever you get back from frolicking in nature check yoself...with a mirror! A Lyme infection doesn't always have the traditional bullseye pattern either, although that is a tell tale sign.

There are over a dozen serious infections you can get from ticks. My cousin recently got bit by the lone star tick and the effects are eating red meat makes her throw up. Everyone thought it was psychosomatic until the evidence was presented.

Here is a list of tick bite disease. Chickens and (O)possums help greatly reduce tick population on property but in the wild one has to take extra precautions.

The last few years the population here down South has exploded!! I have heard from numerous folks about how they are seeing more and more compared to previous decades. Hell my Dad saw them crawling across the concrete on their trailer pad at a vacation campground that they have visited for years.

You guys with those peehole tick stories. I didn't know that was possible. I'm using a condom next time I go hiking.

Just a little research will provide the answers they are looking for. After WWII, project Paper Clip brought over one scientist that was weaponizing ticks in Germany to infect Russian cattle with diseases. He was assigned to Plum Island in the 1950s to continue his work there. Lyme Connecticut, where Lyme disease was first identified, is only about tens miles away from Plum Island.

“And what was on Plum Island? A germ warfare lab to which the U.S. government had brought former Nazi germ warfare scientists in the 1940s (Project Paperclip) to work on the same evil work for a different employer. These included the heard of the Nazi germ warfare program who had worked directly for Heinrich Himmler. On Plum Island was a germ warfare lab that frequently conducted its experiments out of doors. After all, it was on an island. What could go wrong?

Documents record outdoor experiments with diseased ticks in the 1950s. Even the indoors, where participants admit to experiments with ticks, was not sealed tight. And test animals mingled with wild deer, test birds with wild birds.By the 1990s, the eastern end of Long Island had by far the greatest concentration of Lyme disease. If you drew a circle around the area of the world heavily impacted by Lyme disease, which happened to be in the Northeast United States, the center of that circle was Plum Island.”

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The House of Reps is way late to this party, far too late to find the true culprits and bring them to justice. At least they may prove that this was far from a theory, but a true conspiracy. Likely nothing will come of this and these type of labs will continue to produce new infections that escape and infect the innocent masses.

I used to love going out into the woods. Now I don't, because of stuff like ticks. Also, is it just me, or has poison ivy and oak gotten a LOT more widespread than it used to be?

This is coming from a Pennsylvania perspective, not sure if it's the same elsewhere.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Wow what an eye opening article. Thanks for linking it.

a reply to: FreeFalling

You're very welcome.

My hate of vile ticks and parasites knows no bounds. I was researching ticks when I started getting them on me when I worked at a nearby campground. Looking into Lyme disease brought up this conspiracy theory right away. The main tick we have locally is the American Dog Tick, a common native tick that has been a growing problem in my area for about the past ten years, but not as big of a problem as the Black Legged and Lone Star ticks for spreading disease. The lone star was never this far north until it escaped from Plumb Island and spread northwest to Michigan.

Although not as common as the American Dog Ticks, I find one or two Lone Star ticks almost every season along with a few of the Black Legged Ticks. In my woods, there were never any ticks until some 6 or 7 years ago. Now I do everything I can to keep them away from my yard and house. Ticks have been spreading across West Michigan for awhile now and the diseases they spread are increasing dramatically.

This year wasn't as bad as last, but I've already found four crawling on me this season after short trips into the woods on my property. I seriously don't enjoy studying my aging naked body in a full length mirror, but it is a daily ritual after being outside.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Yea I did a little digging trying to find any articles from the 70's about the program and was unable to find any. Not that it would have been a public announcement by any means, but still. Lyme disease and the bacteria Borellia burgdorferi, that cause it, has been around for a long time but was not found in US until the 70,s

Ticks and Lyme disease have been around for thousands of years. In fact, a recent autopsy on a 5,300-year-old mummy indicated the presence of the bacteria which causes Lyme disease. A German physician, Alfred Buchwald, first described the chronic skin rash, or erythema migrans, of what is now known to be Lyme disease more than 130 years ago. However, Lyme disease was only recognized in the United States in the 1960s and 1970s. And the bacteria that causes it – Borrelia burgdorferi – wasn’t officially classified until 1981.

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I just realized one reason for so much reluctance/avoidance from the gov in addressing Lyme disease could be because of the liability issue. Can you imagine the class action lawsuits?

As far as "late to the party," I suspect you are right, for surely any documentation has been destroyed (lost). I wonder if there was anything about Plum Island and Lyme Disease in the Freedom of Info Act released papers in the 90's. The book Lab 257 sounds like a good read for further insight as well as the book Bitten. Wonder if any of the people cited in these books could be called upon for testimony or to reveal their sources of information?

Thanks for your input!

ETA: responding to your second post - Man I noticed a lot more smaller tics the last couple of years. In all my years in the woods I never had tiny ticks, only medium and larger ones, but last summer, the few times I found several at once on me, most of them were pinhead size. I don't know if they were Seed ticks, or nymphs in early growth stage. Also the pics my Father had taken at the lake, of tics crawling across concrete in droves were mostly tiny. Could just be burgeoning populations from climate.

Waftist,

From my research it is believed that the small baby ticks are more likely to attach to smaller mammals like mice and voles. Then they go through a process of growth and shedding at which point they attach to larger animals like rabbits. The larger they get, the higher they perch on weeds and brush to attach to ever larger animals. This is how I usually get them, off taller plants and bushes.

The large adult ticks will even drop down from above you, to spite what the experts say, I know from experience and I am certain they will climb as much as ten feet to "quest" for new hosts. Their instinct is to climb up and attach onto the back and behind or around the neck where it is harder for animals to scratch them off.

They are not as dumb or unaware as you would think. I did some experiments on them last year when I found them. I felt like a Nazi scientist while I did some pretty nasty stuff to those vile bastards, all for the sake of knowledge mind you. I've learned a few things that have given me a sick respect for them. I almost hated killing them after I experimented on them, but they had to DIE!

As far as finding tiny ones on a cement slab, is it possible that these were merely mites? Mites are tiny, resemble ticks, are red and can be seen running around on cement sidewalks a lot of the time.

If there was Lyme and all the other tick-borne diseases here when Columbus landed I think the Indians would still run the US - if they managed to survive the tickpocolypse.

I definitely believed it was bio-engineered and accidentally (or nefariously who knows?) released and is raising havoc on the human population in the East. I know a half-dozen people with serious ailments due to ticks.

The thing is, that if the Germans were studying this as far back as the 1930s, they wouldn't have the gene altering tech we have now. So it is likely they used whatever diseases that ticks naturally carry to weaponize and use in warfare.

I have no doubt that most of the engineered diseases have a natural origin as it would be far easier to use what you can find than invent it from scratch in a lab. No doubt they altered them to become bio-weapons, but they really don't make these diseases without a natural prototype to work from.

That’s crazy but we’ve had some insane ideas in the past.

Remember the bat bombs during World War II?
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a reply to: waftist

Coincidence?

Red meat allergy caused by ticks. Extremist Vegan biological warfare?