Do not go communist!

Do not go communist! Here is how not to be a communist.

Do not share anything with your neighbour, it is communist and they might be a terrorists. Pay your taxes. If the digital monetary system goes down, use the paper money the government produces. Trust in your government to get rid of communists terrorists. Everything produced must be payed for and bought with money. People who don't give up their land under Government Law are communists, do not join them. Do not farm for food without government knowledge or regulation.

Report any homeless person to the police/military. If you want to live in a house(includes abandoned), you must pay for it and report to the Government by law. We are watching you for your own protection against terrorists. Beware of communist fake news, trust in the news of your own country produces.

Sharing is not caring, it is communist! Never share anything without paying money. Don't be a communist.

Nvm

originally posted by: makemap
Do not go communist! Here is how not to be a communist.

Do not share anything with your neighbour, it is communist and they might be a terrorists. Pay your taxes. If the digital monetary system goes down, use the paper money the government produces. Trust in your government to get rid of communists terrorists. Everything produced must be payed for and bought with money. People who don't give up their land under Government Law are communists, do not join them. Do not farm for food without government knowledge or regulation.

Report any homeless person to the police/military. If you want to live in a house(includes abandoned), you must pay for it and report to the Government by law. We are watching you for your own protection against terrorists. Beware of communist fake news, trust in the news of your own country produces.

Sharing is not caring, it is communist! Never share anything without paying money. Don't be a communist.

Ummm. . . .

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: makemap
Do not go communist! Here is how not to be a communist.

Do not share anything with your neighbour, it is communist and they might be a terrorists. Pay your taxes. If the digital monetary system goes down, use the paper money the government produces. Trust in your government to get rid of communists terrorists. Everything produced must be payed for and bought with money. People who don't give up their land under Government Law are communists, do not join them. Do not farm for food without government knowledge or regulation.

Report any homeless person to the police/military. If you want to live in a house(includes abandoned), you must pay for it and report to the Government by law. We are watching you for your own protection against terrorists. Beware of communist fake news, trust in the news of your own country produces.

Sharing is not caring, it is communist! Never share anything without paying money. Don't be a communist.

Ummm. . . .

this.

Do they teach this kind of stupidity or is this something you have to learn on your own?

originally posted by: FauxMulder

Let's hope so!

On this site you just never know.

I'm sure it'll be on the top ten list for the week.

😊

😊

a reply to: makemap
Heavy-handed sarcasm tends not to work here (I tried it once, near the end of 2012).

a reply to: makemap

I think the best reason not to go "Communist" is what happens to societies that do.


110 million people, foreign and domestic, were killed by communist democide from 1900 to 1987

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: makemap
Do not go communist!

Is this one of those "don't think of an elephant" kind of things, because right now all I want to do is push to give ownership of all means of production to the workers and distribute the gains according to the needs of individual citizens.

However, if I can't do that, just make me dictator. Well, not "dictator," because that has a negative connotation. Something more accessible and uplifting like "head honcho."

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: makemap
Heavy-handed sarcasm tends not to work here (I tried it once, near the end of 2012).

I think it was satire.

But I'm not sure.

The OP appears to equate sharing with government distribution based on need.

a reply to: makemap

Sounds like you do not know what communist is.

Sharing is capitalist. Communist is the government taking everything and then deciding who to share your money with. Don't like it, go to Siberia and rot.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: makemap
Do not go communist!

Is this one of those "don't think of an elephant" kind of things, because right now all I want to do is push to give ownership of all means of production to the workers and distribute the gains according to the needs of individual citizens.

However, if I can't do that, just make me dictator. Well, not "dictator," because that has a negative connotation. Something more accessible and uplifting like "head honcho."

How many resisters will have to be purged?

originally posted by: projectvxn
Do they teach this kind of stupidity or is this something you have to learn on your own?

Pretty sure it's all they teach anymore.
Have you heard some of the horror stories coming out of our public education sector these days?

They're creating an army of uneducated unproductive and heavily dependent morons.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: makemap
Do not go communist!

Is this one of those "don't think of an elephant" kind of things, because right now all I want to do is push to give ownership of all means of production to the workers and distribute the gains according to the needs of individual citizens.

However, if I can't do that, just make me dictator. Well, not "dictator," because that has a negative connotation. Something more accessible and uplifting like "head honcho."

Great.

Thanks.

Now all I can think about are elephants!

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: makemap
Heavy-handed sarcasm tends not to work here (I tried it once, near the end of 2012).

The worst thing when that happens is that you feel forced to defend yourself regardless of your actual point, and play the devil's advocate against people who couldn't get the joke in the first place.

I think a lot of Trump supporters are like that. They voted for him sarcastically, as a goof to make a point about politics, and now they feel compelled to argue in his favor due to the blowback from over-sensitive types who have limited perspectives on the whole situation. And once you start trolling, it's hard to stop.

originally posted by: infolurker
How many resisters will have to be purged?

How many you got?

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: makemap
Heavy-handed sarcasm tends not to work here (I tried it once, near the end of 2012).

This...

Peace

You missed something. Socialism/communism relies upon forced "sharing" of resources. So you are not free to choose to share or not under communism.

So telling people that sharing with their neighbors because they choose to and want to is communism is absurd.

a reply to: makemap

Being a brit I definitely catch your sarcasm but most yank's won't or will even choose not to, though you have to admit the sarcastic responses are mostly quite funny.

Communism, well there has been one form or other of Communism in the world since mankind first gathered into tribes, replaced with monarchy's and eventually as the tribes grew ever larger with entrenched class system's.

To quote from a wiki page in recognizable form it goes back thousands of years.
en.wikipedia.org...

According to Richard Pipes, the idea of a classless, egalitarian society first emerged in Ancient Greece.[11] The 5th-century Mazdak movement in Persia (Iran) has been described as "communistic" for challenging the enormous privileges of the noble classes and the clergy, for criticizing the institution of private property and for striving to create an egalitarian society.[12][13] At one time or another, various small communist communities existed, generally under the inspiration of Scripture.[14] For example, in the medieval Christian Church some monastic communities and religious orders shared their land and their other property (see religious and Christian communism).

Early Christian community's could be said to have been very commune like in there nature, in fact the Kibbutz were an almost identical model if not as severe as the early christian communes but this was lost in the christian world when the religion was taken over by the state and turned into a class based religious system in which the elite ruled as a priesthood (something Jesus would very much never have approved of since more than once he made us aware of his disdain for hypocritical priest's (Rabbi) in fine robes being lauded by the community due to there position and influence rather than anything they had actually done.

ATHEIST communism never worked, it forced people to fit into neat administrative box's and suppressed individualism and banned private ownership (except for the PARTY the new ruling royalty that in time would just as in NK become the new monarchy), people love freedom, freedom of expression and the freedom to choose there own belief, there own cloth's and have there own property.

So in many way's communism was never going to be compatible with human psychology, neither by the way is pure capitalism as both are tyrannical system's to begin with that then simply get worse over time and degenerate into very unfair society's over time.

The best way is Moderate Socialism with REGULATED Capitalism - something the neo liberal elite will never accept since they are in the process of supplanting world government's with corporations some of which are now bigger than many nation's and are moving toward creating a global capitalist empire - in fact they have already achieved it mostly with the bankers now more powerful than the government's and the corporations dictating government policy's in most of the ONCE developed world as they maneuver to bypass democratic and legal systems entirely.

Now we have the rise of non elected individuals far more powerful than any nations government whom are ruling the world like tyrant's, for them the need to accrue wealth ceased often many generations ago as many of them come from dynasty's of powerful men and family's, these modern Medici and Borgia's are not however content until they rule the entire world, they have no empathy and no respect for democracy buying there power and controlling even the most powerful government's in this world.

Make no mistake these are the corporeal form of the very same principality's and powers we were warned of.


Moderate socialism.

Partial state ownership of at least some vital industry's and full ownership were that is not viable of those without which we can not do in times of distress such as our steel industry, our vital infrastructure rail, roads, water and electricity as well as at least controlling right's in our fuel production such as the north sea (all sold off thank's to extreme conservative ideology in the UK, they were mismanaged by government previous to this but that was the problem that we should have fixed not thrown the baby out with the bathwater so some rich dick could fill his own pockets from the proceed's of state property and they should have been run for profit to pay back into the government as these were mostly profitable industry's when ran correctly).

State subsidy available for struggling employers as well as tax breaks if they can show that they are a benefit to the country and employ enough people to make it worth while to maintain there business and keep them afloat during hard time's.

Social safety net's in the form of state pension's, welfare system's, housing and health care, the welfare system can be argued to be a subsidy for the retail industry as welfare is generally very little money and in a society that has kept on top of it's crime problems' (Especially drug's) this money then goes full circle buying goods' from retailers, supporting job's and allowing income tax to be gathered with more security than otherwise since those employee's are then more stable in there job's as those job's are more stable due to the indirect support this gives the retail industry.

Argument's against (in Britain).

Our birth rate is falling so we may not be able to sustain taxation sufficiently to continue to provide state care, this is not offset by migration as those migrant's are not all having large family's and those that do are often then claiming welfare above anything they are actually paying back in the form of taxation.

BUT.

Why is our Birth rate falling?.

A number of factor's, pollution and reduced fertility being one, woman working longer and the withdrawal of state welfare being another since this leaves them with no safety net to fall back on and fear or not working, not being able to pay over priced property prices (due to a lack of social housing - thank's both to the Tory's AND the Blair years), cultural changes making marriage and motherhood undesirable as the global neo liberalism has brainwashed global society's through the media, once our school's roared with the sound of children, those same children were CARED about by the state - it does not care about them now only about the money men - and feral youth's were almost unheard of - but back then it was also OK to give a kid a good clip around the ear hole and if a kid dared to carry a knife or to strike a teacher the repercussions were far more stringent.

Instead of having a girl friend our young boy's think of going out and shacking up with complete strangers in night club's for a quick shag, venereal disease is rampant and our society has literally lost it's way since it is now three generations into this wrong direction for our society's survival and is now set to break unless we do something quickly as a nation.

Much of this also apply's to much of the rest of the so called developed world - INCLUDING the US though there is an extremely brainwashed right wing mindset there since the success of the anti communist policy's of the past from which time it was even indoctrinated into kid's how the big bad socialist was going to come and eat them all up - true if they were talking about old Joe he was a right nut job but that was communism not moderate socialism and many there tend to put the two into the same barrel wrongly.