Andrew Yangs not leaving!

I think Andrew Yang is the most stomachable politician on the democratic stage. He might not be the guy to beat Trump, which is what the Democrats want, but he isn't as looney as anyone on that stage with him.

originally posted by: JoeGee
I think Andrew Yang is the most stomachable politician on the democratic stage. He might not be the guy to beat Trump, which is what the Democrats want, but he isn't as looney as anyone on that stage with him.

Sorry, but his UBI crap doesn't even pass a basic elementary math class.

That alone, just makes him look like an imbecile to most people.

a reply to: MisterSpock

To quote a favorite movie of mine, he's the smartest Downs Syndrome kid in the room.

Does that make me not PC?

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: MisterSpock

To quote a favorite movie of mine, he's the smartest Downs Syndrome kid in the room.

Does that make me not PC?

You're a horrible person......

Probably why I like you so much.

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: MisterSpock

To quote a favorite movie of mine, he's the smartest Downs Syndrome kid in the room.

Does that make me not PC?

You're a horrible person......

Probably why I like you so much.

Coming from you I'm going to go to sleep tonight with a big smile on my face.

I'm in the right place then.

I wish him the best of luck, but his math is totally off from the get go. He can't pay for his UBI without completely tanking the US economy. He's not a career politician which is always a good thing, but his actual policies aren't going to get him very many votes in the long run.

Here's a really good interview with Andrew Yang:



I like him because he's ultra liberal!

a reply to: dfnj2015
No offense, but I've seen you post that you like AOC and Sanders in critical threads. You never seem to explain why you like them/their policies though...

originally posted by: dfnj2015
Here's a really good interview with Andrew Yang:

I like him because he's ultra liberal!

He's not "liberal" at all.

He's a Progressive.

Liberals traditionally were for no wars, smaller government, leave me alone to to what I want to my body, don't peek in my bedroom and their economic ideas were not Conservative.

There are no Liberals in the Democratic party anymore.

Which is a damn shame... we need them back.

originally posted by: thov420
a reply to: dfnj2015
No offense, but I've seen you post that you like AOC and Sanders in critical threads. You never seem to explain why you like them/their policies though...

Because he's a hard Marxist.

A Communist.

So of course he can't explain his ideology, besides posting a Youtube video of "Marxism for Dummies" about a thousand times.

Because it doesn't work if you add humans to the equation.

But let's not talk about that...

originally posted by: thov420
a reply to: dfnj2015
No offense, but I've seen you post that you like AOC and Sanders in critical threads. You never seem to explain why you like them/their policies though...

I haven't been a Republican since Grover Norquist proclaimed, "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

I can't fight corporations. I can't fight billionaires. Government is the only force strong enough to keep the cartels and monopolies in check. FDRs words from his 1936 speech really resonate with me:

"An old English judge once said: 'Necessitous men are not free men.' Liberty requires opportunity to make a living - a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for.

For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor - other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness.

Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of government."

So when I hear Republicans claim government is the problem it makes me feel like there's no hope. I think the problems in this country are not rocket science. The lobbyists force the politicians to pass laws creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing. The lobbyists are owned by the billionaires and CEOs. I can't affort a lobbyist to represent my interests.

So any politician giving us "free stuff" is GREAT as far as I am concerned. Soak the billionaires and CEOs because they been price fixing wages and products with data analytics for years!

I could show you a video on how bad wealth inequality is in this country. Or I could show you graph of the purchasing power of the dollar over the last 30 years. But I am not some naive idiot. NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. When Trump gave a HUGE tax break to the billionaires and gutted consumer protection laws it was just as I predicted. The same old same old bait and switch feed the swamp BS as usual.

It doesn't really bother me if Republicans want to destroy our country by letting the corporations turn us all into slaves. It's happening anyway. I think George Carlin said it best. There's a reason. And it's never going to change:



I'd like to see us return to FDR levels of taxation just to confirm the American people are still represented in government. Not that the government needs the money (it could always print more) although it would be nice to have a budget surplus again. No, the only reason is raising taxes back to FDR levels would make Grover suffer anguish like I have suffered with regards to wealth inequality and the purchasing power of my take home pay!

a reply to: dfnj2015

So any politician giving us "free stuff" is GREAT as far as I am concerned. Soak the billionaires and CEOs because they been price fixing wages and products with data analytics for years!

So you'r a Communist.

Glad we got that sorted out.

You are advocating for an ideology that will destroy our economy, kill tens of millions (you among them but you have to die for an ideology if you really believe in it, right?) and will force a hard restart of America...

To back to where it was.

/golf clap

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: thov420
a reply to: dfnj2015
No offense, but I've seen you post that you like AOC and Sanders in critical threads. You never seem to explain why you like them/their policies though...

Because he's a hard Marxist.
A Communist.
So of course he can't explain his ideology, besides posting a Youtube video of "Marxism for Dummies" about a thousand times.
Because it doesn't work if you add humans to the equation.
But let's not talk about that...

I'm not Communist but I am extremely pro-labor. When labor is strong our country is strong. I believe in free-markets is the only mechanism that will wring out the inefficiencies of CEO compensation and excessive shareholder dividends. But we have NO free-markets in this country. We do have a single party government in this country. The thing is the kind of communism we have in this country is NOT in the workers favor.

I don't care what you think of me. NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. You are just a tool for the billionaires and CEOs.

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: dfnj2015

So any politician giving us "free stuff" is GREAT as far as I am concerned. Soak the billionaires and CEOs because they been price fixing wages and products with data analytics for years!

So you'r a Communist.

Glad we got that sorted out.

Nope. I don't believe in government owning land. I do believe government has a role to play is addressing the excesses of laissez faire capitalism. Since you don't think government has any role in society except merging with corporate power is okay if I label you a corporatist?

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Benito Mussolini

People in this country are so funny. By the time you get old enough to realize how badly you are being screwed it's pretty much too late. That's how I feel. I'm too old. It's hard to care about much of anything than my own health. I'll be dead soon enough. The then likes of Lumenari and the rest of the right wing Retardicans can implement all their final solutions.

I just don't care anymore. I'm just killing time here another month until fantasy football gets rolling full tilt!

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: dfnj2015
Here's a really good interview with Andrew Yang:

I like him because he's ultra liberal!

He's not "liberal" at all.

He's a Progressive.

Liberals traditionally were for no wars, smaller government, leave me alone to to what I want to my body, don't peek in my bedroom and their economic ideas were not Conservative.

There are no Liberals in the Democratic party anymore.

Which is a damn shame... we need them back.

No, he'd clearly a crypo-verangian with some opulent curlicues.

When he opens his mouth, he also might not be lying!

How could anyone trust someone who might be telling the truth? At least if they always lie, obsessively, than you know it, and can trust that they are faithfully telling lies.

That's the problem with honesty and politicians, you just never know.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: thov420
a reply to: dfnj2015
No offense, but I've seen you post that you like AOC and Sanders in critical threads. You never seem to explain why you like them/their policies though...

Because he's a hard Marxist.

A Communist.

I'll tell you what I want to be:

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: thov420
a reply to: dfnj2015
No offense, but I've seen you post that you like AOC and Sanders in critical threads. You never seem to explain why you like them/their policies though...

Because he's a hard Marxist.

A Communist.

When the Berlin wall came down I had so much hope. Wow, what have I become:



"I don't think there are any Russians
And there ain't no Yanks
Just corporate criminals
Playin' with tanks"

a reply to: chr0naut

All I know is anyone who thinks Republicans are not just as bad Democrats is purely delusional. Lobbyists rule this country.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: thov420
a reply to: dfnj2015
No offense, but I've seen you post that you like AOC and Sanders in critical threads. You never seem to explain why you like them/their policies though...

I haven't been a Republican since Grover Norquist proclaimed, "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

I can't fight corporations. I can't fight billionaires. Government is the only force strong enough to keep the cartels and monopolies in check. FDRs words from his 1936 speech really resonate with me:

"An old English judge once said: 'Necessitous men are not free men.' Liberty requires opportunity to make a living - a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for.

I agree, liberty does require opportunity to make a living. Every American living today has the opportunity.

For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor - other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness.

Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of government."

I understand the appeal, especially with the huge multi-national corps we have running things today. I would also like to see a cap on management pay/compensation.

So when I hear Republicans claim government is the problem it makes me feel like there's no hope. I think the problems in this country are not rocket science. The lobbyists force the politicians to pass laws creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing. The lobbyists are owned by the billionaires and CEOs. I can't affort a lobbyist to represent my interests.

I doubt it, but if you really feel lobbyists and corps are a Republican issue then you haven't really been paying attention.

So any politician giving us "free stuff" is GREAT as far as I am concerned. Soak the billionaires and CEOs because they been price fixing wages and products with data analytics for years!

Free stuff always sounds great, the problem is how are we going to pay for it? The only money the government has is taxpayer money.

I could show you a video on how bad wealth inequality is in this country. Or I could show you graph of the purchasing power of the dollar over the last 30 years. But I am not some naive idiot. NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. When Trump gave a HUGE tax break to the billionaires and gutted consumer protection laws it was just as I predicted. The same old same old bait and switch feed the swamp BS as usual.

I get how bad the inequality is in this country, I've been on the bottom 10% my whole damn life. The Trump tax cuts affected everybody though, not just the rich and corps. More $ in every paycheck is more money period. Even if a few extra dollars feels like nothing, it's still a tax cut for everybody.

It doesn't really bother me if Republicans want to destroy our country by letting the corporations turn us all into slaves. It's happening anyway. I think George Carlin said it best. There's a reason. And it's never going to change:

I'd like to see us return to FDR levels of taxation just to confirm the American people are still represented in government. Not that the government needs the money (it could always print more) although it would be nice to have a budget surplus again. No, the only reason is raising taxes back to FDR levels would make Grover suffer anguish like I have suffered with regards to wealth inequality and the purchasing power of my take home pay!

You still seem to place the blame on Reps, it takes Congress to pass bills into law. One single party hasn't screwed this country over, Dems or Reps. Honestly things would be so much better if we could get rid of parties all together and agree/disagree on individual policies.