You want proof of evolution at work, here it is.... Enjoy! (Observable and testable).

Ok, everyone keeps asking for evidence of evolution, (Raggedyman, EdMC2)… Here’s some…

I watched a programme a few years back where they were dissecting a Giraffe. Was fascinating… this is the biggest thing I took from the programme:-

In humans, the vocal chord comes from the back of the voice box in the throat, down the neck, wraps around a ventricle of the heart, then travels all the way back up the neck and connects to the brain. This is clearly not the most efficient route and clearly would not be “designed” this way…

In Giraffe’s also, believe it or not, the chord travels all the way down the neck, round the heart and all the way back to the brain up the neck. As I am sure you will agree, had this been designed this would be a ludicrous route to take.

This all comes from our (Humans and Giraffe’s) common ancestor you see… When the first mammal slithered out of the oceans all those millions of years ago it was still effectively an amphibious creature, it just evolved/mutated enough to be able to breath air, it clearly gained an advantage from this transition… In fish this route that the chord takes IS the most economical route…

This clearly proves our relation to a common ancestor… To claim that this anomaly is DESGINED this way is ridiculous… If it is designed this way then your god is very bad at design....

Please discuss…

PA

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

Whoa hey there, i understand evolution just fine. You can’t read my posts and possibly think i deny evolution. I have brought up these same examples. My fav though is whales and their obvious progression from land animals to what we witness today.

I demand you issue a retraction.

This has some potential to evolve into fun thread...God willing.

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
Ok, everyone keeps asking for evidence of evolution, (Raggedyman, Woodcarver, EdMC2)… Here’s some…

I watched a programme a few years back where they were dissecting a Giraffe. Was fascinating… this is the biggest thing I took from the programme:-

In humans, the vocal chord comes from the back of the voice box in the throat, down the neck, wraps around a ventricle of the heart, then travels all the way back up the neck and connects to the brain. This is clearly not the most efficient route and clearly would not be “designed” this way…

In Giraffe’s also, believe it or not, the chord travels all the way down the neck, round the heart and all the way back to the brain up the neck. As I am sure you will agree, had this been designed this would be a ludicrous route to take.

This all comes from our (Humans and Giraffe’s) common ancestor you see… When the first mammal slithered out of the oceans all those millions of years ago it was still effectively an amphibious creature, it just evolved/mutated enough to be able to breath air, it clearly gained an advantage from this transition… In fish this route that the chord takes IS the most economical route…

This clearly proves our relation to a common ancestor… To claim that this anomaly is DESGINED this way is ridiculous… If it is designed this way then your god is very bad at design....

Please discuss…

PA

It’s ok Woodie, just a simple error that Perfectly Anon made, nobody would ever confuse you with a creationist
As nobody would confuse the OPs empirical evidence as real empirical evidence or even remotely capable of proving anything related to evolution being a science over a faith

a reply to: Woodcarver

I do apologise... you are correct.... It was some other Psuedo-science crackpot I was supposed to name...

Please accept my deepest apologies....

PA

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

I believe what you are referring to as the 'vocal cord' is actually the vagus nerve, which has more functions than just controlling the voice box.
Vagus nerve

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
a reply to: Woodcarver

I do apologise... you are correct.... It was some other Psuedo-science crackpot I was supposed to name...

Please accept my deepest apologies....

PA

I’ll try to cope with this misdirected oppression. I’m just glad i caught it in time before any real damage could be done.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Lol... It's a fact mate... I know you creationists don't handle facts very well... Feel free to carry out your own research and provide rebuttals here... I look forward to debating facts and concepts with you...

Are you suggesting that your god DID design this in this way??

In that case my friend, your god is a fool....

PA

a reply to: Woodcarver

Thank you for being so magnanamous.. I am forever in your debt...

PA

a reply to: IAMTAT

FIngers crossed....

PA

a reply to: butcherguy

Good point... And thanks form coming to the party with facts and knowledge... We need more like you in here...

PA

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
a reply to: Woodcarver

Thank you for being so magnanamous.. I am forever in your debt...

PA

One day, i may come to you for a favor...

a reply to: [post=24458456]Woodcarver[/post

If it's backing you up in a debate, I'm there with bells on...

If it's helping to shave you ballsack, I'm gonna pass...

PA

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
Ok, everyone keeps asking for evidence of evolution, (Raggedyman, Woodcarver, EdMC2)… Here’s some…

I watched a programme a few years back where they were dissecting a Giraffe. Was fascinating… this is the biggest thing I took from the programme:-

In humans, the vocal chord comes from the back of the voice box in the throat, down the neck, wraps around a ventricle of the heart, then travels all the way back up the neck and connects to the brain. This is clearly not the most efficient route and clearly would not be “designed” this way…

In Giraffe’s also, believe it or not, the chord travels all the way down the neck, round the heart and all the way back to the brain up the neck. As I am sure you will agree, had this been designed this would be a ludicrous route to take.

This all comes from our (Humans and Giraffe’s) common ancestor you see… When the first mammal slithered out of the oceans all those millions of years ago it was still effectively an amphibious creature, it just evolved/mutated enough to be able to breath air, it clearly gained an advantage from this transition… In fish this route that the chord takes IS the most economical route…

This clearly proves our relation to a common ancestor… To claim that this anomaly is DESGINED this way is ridiculous… If it is designed this way then your god is very bad at design....

Please discuss…

PA

It’s ok Woodie, just a simple error that Perfectly Anon made, nobody would ever confuse you with a creationist
As nobody would confuse the OPs empirical evidence as real empirical evidence or even remotely capable of proving anything related to evolution being a science over a faith

Well, most everyone does accept this as empirical evidence as it spans throughout all mammals.

What’s your excuse for the transition of whales from land mammals to sea dwellers?

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

How does that prove anything, maybe a common designer
Where is the evidence, what does it prove where is the scientific relevance and how does it prove anything.
If it was a dumb design why didn’t it evolve away and instead we kept longer necks than a stupid vocal chord anomalie

Talk about pseudo scientific crackpot stupidity, you have offered nothing relevant at all and think you have completed something

Why don’t you ask Woodie in a PM why what you have said is so stupid

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
a reply to: butcherguy

Good point... And thanks form coming to the party with facts and knowledge... We need more like you in here...

PA

Yes, the vagus nerve originates in the medulla oblongata and travels down to the heart and even further. It controls a lot of different things in addition to speech. Heart rate, intestinal muscle movement, sweating and the gag reflex are all controlled by this nerve.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
Ok, everyone keeps asking for evidence of evolution, (Raggedyman, Woodcarver, EdMC2)… Here’s some…

I watched a programme a few years back where they were dissecting a Giraffe. Was fascinating… this is the biggest thing I took from the programme:-

In humans, the vocal chord comes from the back of the voice box in the throat, down the neck, wraps around a ventricle of the heart, then travels all the way back up the neck and connects to the brain. This is clearly not the most efficient route and clearly would not be “designed” this way…

In Giraffe’s also, believe it or not, the chord travels all the way down the neck, round the heart and all the way back to the brain up the neck. As I am sure you will agree, had this been designed this would be a ludicrous route to take.

This all comes from our (Humans and Giraffe’s) common ancestor you see… When the first mammal slithered out of the oceans all those millions of years ago it was still effectively an amphibious creature, it just evolved/mutated enough to be able to breath air, it clearly gained an advantage from this transition… In fish this route that the chord takes IS the most economical route…

This clearly proves our relation to a common ancestor… To claim that this anomaly is DESGINED this way is ridiculous… If it is designed this way then your god is very bad at design....

Please discuss…

PA

It’s ok Woodie, just a simple error that Perfectly Anon made, nobody would ever confuse you with a creationist
As nobody would confuse the OPs empirical evidence as real empirical evidence or even remotely capable of proving anything related to evolution being a science over a faith

Well, most everyone does accept this as empirical evidence as it spans throughout all mammals.

What’s your excuse for the transition of whales from land mammals to sea dwellers?

What transition
Are you going to tell me the whales pelvis bone is a left over from evolution and is vestigial....again
Please no, you can’t be that ignorant

Show me the evidence

Speaking of ballsacks...Why did God put them all out in the open, swinging around down there like hairy piñatas?
It's damned awkward...and don't get me started about chafing...

Silly ol' God.

S

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
a reply to: butcherguy

Good point... And thanks form coming to the party with facts and knowledge... We need more like you in here...

PA

Yes, the vagus nerve originates in the medulla oblongata and travels down to the heart and even further. It controls a lot of different things in addition to speech. Heart rate, intestinal muscle movement, sweating and the gag reflex are all controlled by this nerve.

So the whole argument has become redundant because the vocal chord doesn’t do what was said it does but it’s a nerve

Does this get any more crazy

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

Based on all the defects in my own body I can clearly attest the human body was NOT designed by any "intelligence"!!!