Is the Bible the Book or the Word within?

Is the Bible the Book or the Word within?

I have read a few threads and posts referring to the fallible nature of the Bible as a book subject to interpretation and to be changed and altered by human hand.

I, on the other hand, tend to understand there is a difference between the Book that contain words and the Word that made the book.

The challenge, I feel, is rather to preserve and recognize the Word despite the changes operated on the book.

a reply to: Falkner

The word/letter is A, the book/letter is B.

a reply to: FlukeSkywalker

Although unclear, it appears you consider there is a difference between considering the Bible as a collection of letters in a book as opposed to the meaning conveyed by the text (which is the Bible)?

a reply to: Falkner

God created man without any manuals on how to live. They cause wars, inferiority complexes, ego elevation, etc..

It's best to be yourself, and ignore all religious texts written by man.

a reply to: carewemust

No manuals, for sure.
But certainly left some instructions, isn't our DNA some sort of code, for instance.
Does not a sense of moral (good/bad) inate to human.
If so, can you not translate such interpretations into words?
And then, should one dismiss the instruction as it is perceived and interpreted due to the flawed nature of men?

The Bible is a collection of manuscripts written over about 3500 years.

Its purpose is to describe a disconnect with the Spirit who produced us and to outline the consequences and resolution to that disconnect.

The eventual goal it outlines is the restoration of what was lost..a personal dynamic real-time relationship with the divine mind.

a reply to: troubleshooter

Sure, the Bible deals with the economy of Salvation and the destiny of the created being, body and soul.

But for some the Bible is the book and all the collection of words and texts, with every coma and paragraph.

For others the Bible is the message contained in the book, rather than the Book itself, with any room for interpretation and integration with other knowledge, tradition and teachings.

Regardless, there are religions that defend either one or other approach to what the Bible really is.

The 66 books, to be exact.

No?

a reply to: Falkner

Today's bible is big fat fake news. Your salvation lies on Jesus and his word consist 13%. The rest are St Paul's crap. 2.18 billion Christians are in vain.

Bible is updated more than iPhone IOS.

Bible

Basic
Instructions
Before
Leaving
Earth

a reply to: Falkner



What makes more sense. The militant Jewish people decided to "turn the other cheek" and to "give to Caesar what is Caesar's" or the gospel is Roman occupational war-time propaganda?

a reply to: Falkner

It all makes sense when you take into account that we are all just really smart apes, and not special beings with magic souls that can live forever after we die.

originally posted by: Falkner
a reply to: troubleshooter

Sure, the Bible deals with the economy of Salvation and the destiny of the created being, body and soul.

But for some the Bible is the book and all the collection of words and texts, with every coma and paragraph.

For others the Bible is the message contained in the book, rather than the Book itself, with any room for interpretation and integration with other knowledge, tradition and teachings.

Regardless, there are religions that defend either one or other approach to what the Bible really is.

I think these and other approaches are part of the transmission between generations and within cultures.

Even negative voices and opinions have their role.

Even the abuse of religious power has served to preserve and keep the texts active and stimulate opposition who correct the errors and continues the discussion.

There are underlying patterns in some of the biblical manuscripts that suggest divine dictation and others are just history poetry and observation. Other parts are the telling of a personal encounter with the divine being or His servants yet others the story of a deliverance of signs and descriptions of future events.

However the manuscripts are approached there are works that satisfy the criteria and always others that challenge pet theories and surprise.

One thing is certain though that there is a timeline and direction to the collection.

The Bible is in a league by itself

Just tonite the prophecy of trouble in Israel and it's enemies.....

The U S just tonite sent secret jets to Qatar....F 22s anyway.....a bunch of em

Scripture has this war starting by July......2019........what a book huh!!

a reply to: Falkner

The word within the Bible is referencing the word of distant past.
Some may have misconstrued the truth in the word over time but it messages make it through. A word that seems rooted in respect for others as well as for the self.

originally posted by: Falkner
Is the Bible the Book or the Word within?

I have read a few threads and posts referring to the fallible nature of the Bible as a book subject to interpretation and to be changed and altered by human hand.

I, on the other hand, tend to understand there is a difference between the Book that contain words and the Word that made the book.

The challenge, I feel, is rather to preserve and recognize the Word despite the changes operated on the book.

That’s right in my opinion - we read it and if our souls evolved enough our little voice tells us what to take from it and what to omit.

As recent generations at our stages in life we are really up against it to decifer what matters.

So our souls must cast a inner eye as we attempt to find light amoungst the writtings but majorically only old souls through multiple reincarnations tend to be like yourself able to look deeper than just words on a page.

However picking the bible up to start with in genuine interest no matter what evolutionary stage the soul is at is definitely a step in the right direction but taking it as literal and enforcing it as literal to others is the great deception at its best.

It's rewritten true diversionary purpose is to if not very very careful resist the souls desire to step further into the enlightenment process thus enabling souls to take the very wrong road at the fork in the road.

Colloquially known as reading between the lines - this is our inner eyes specialty of course hence why the souls evolutionary status determines for the vast majority the inner eyes power.

"Preserve" the word is a action firmly eradicated by the authors and translators - not sure if deliberately or through just uneducated understanding but "recognize" the word is a action firmly incapable of eradication if the soul and inner eye are in tandem at the right stage in spiritual evolution.

Sadly so far the overwhelming majority can not decipher whats truly written between the lines hence their litteral interpretations.

originally posted by: Falkner
a reply to: carewemust

No manuals, for sure.
But certainly left some instructions, isn't our DNA some sort of code, for instance.
Does not a sense of moral (good/bad) inate to human.
If so, can you not translate such interpretations into words?
And then, should one dismiss the instruction as it is perceived and interpreted due to the flawed nature of men?

Yes but most are not enlightened enough and actually refuse this simple consideration.

@Op: To find the Word of God, in the Bible, one has to read the Bible with the mind set on to find the Meaning.

Obviously, the Bible was written not only for the Religious people, but for everyone. So a bit of Thinking is Required.

The Bible starts with :

"In the beginning there was a Word, and the word was with God, and the word was God"

It is crucial to understand what this means, so the question what a Word is should be asked.

If i follow my Logic, then to be able to speak a word, i should have a Mouth.

While this is logical, one has to know that Spirit does not have a mouth with which it can utter a word. And God is Spirit.
So to follow the logic, even before a Man can utter a word, he as well, needs to THINK.

Therefore, interpreting it right, the Word of God is litterally the Thought of God.

And the Bible is even hinting to what this "Thought" or "Word" of God is: "Perfection".

a reply to: Falkner

the bible was written by multiple people not by one person then it was translated into the form we have today , so am sure that it will not be acurate there must be many mistakes by the writers putting their own slant to it . but if it give you comfort as it is then so be it .

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Falkner

God created man without any manuals on how to live. They cause wars, inferiority complexes, ego elevation, etc..

It's best to be yourself, and ignore all religious texts written by man.

Totally disagree. If a person actually follow the Bible (which most never do ) they would live a very healthy happy peaceful life. Bringing absolutely no harm to anyone around them. Problem is, most people only use some parts of it then justify the rest of their actions with their own beliefs.