The naked Aquatic Ape which could be an ancestor of all of us...

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: underwerks

What about the other marine mammals that have hair? Were they all on land first too?

Yes.

Cetaceans (whales, dolphins, and porpoises) are an order of mammals that originated about 50 million years ago in the Eocene epoch. Even though all modern cetaceans are obligate aquatic mammals, early cetaceans were amphibious, and their ancestors were terrestrial artiodactyls, similar to small deer. The transition from land to water is documented by a series of intermediate fossils, many of which are known from India and Pakistan.

link.springer.com...

originally posted by: TheRealSolarPanel
a reply to: underwerks

You seriously believe that?! Wow..

It's not as plausible as a magic man in the sky creating everything, but yes.

a reply to: underwerks

learn something new everyday.

originally posted by: Praetorius

originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Heck idk, but until someone can change my mind on evolution I believe my idea is just as good. Maybe ancient India had bombs. I read stuff supporting and disproving the India nukes theory. Both make great arguments.

...but that would be humans in India with their nukes. Kinda makes it hard for the resulting nuke fallout/etc. to cause ape-like creatures to evolve into the people who made and used the nukes.

Just thought we should get that clarified before chasing that line of thought too far..

Maybe it's nukes all the way down

a reply to: underwerks
Have you even studied all the evidence for the Bible? Combine that with billions of personal testimonies over time and to ignore you would have to be living under a rock. Not even mentioning all the predictions that are constantly unfolding. Problem is, society has literally been brainwashed and swindled away from believing in the Bible and away from even Reading it.
God is not a magical man in the sky , it's way deeper than that but you obviously haven't even looked into it...

a reply to: Praetorius

Oh you mistake my meaning. I dont believe we evolved from monkies or apes at all. I dont believe in evolution. There are ancient myths of the gods in the sky fighting. There are ancient beliefs that the world has been wiped out and began again anew. Who's to say some ancient nuclear war or ancient genetics wasnt used to make them.

a reply to: cognizant420
Fair enough that, I may have misread the finer points there.

I'm definitely a big believer that there's a lot of ancient human history we generally don't have much beyond hints at currently (catastrophism is a thing, experts! Definitely interested in the YDI hypothesis, and I think the belief that modern man having been around for ~400k years - shortsighted in my book - yet only inventing society in the last 6k years or so is ludicrous). And I certainly believe something has been making appearances throughout known history for a long time - I think the myths hold a lot more truth than we credit them for, even if the basis for most of them was less impressive than the stories we've received.

As to their being responsible for the creation/evolution of humanity, I don't subscribe personally, but it's definitely a fun though experiment at least. Star for the clarification, thanks.

a reply to: TheRealSolarPanel
The Bible? Which one exactly? The one created by Constantine to placate the masses? Later to be popularised by King James......a bisexual elitist prick? THAT Bible?

a reply to: lakenheath24

The one put together by tons of different sources but yes King James had it compiled into one book. I guess it's convenient though for a non believer to put it like that and ignore the true depth of it, including all the evidence /testimonies and prophecies that came true. Much love to you

Thank you very much, this is really interesting and Elaine was captivating to listen to.
I thought the fact about the fat layer was especially compelling. Very cool. Thanks again

a reply to: TheRealSolarPanel

Ahhh...tons of sources eh. I thought it was the word of God not tons of sources. And actually I was raised in church...got "saved" and baptised.....yet one day I came to my senses that religion is crap. One can have faith outside a book of fairy tales.

Love back atcha.

a reply to: 727Sky

What a frickin joke scientist's are,in my opinion they are all like that one idiot Bill NYE,they tell story's they created,nothing to do with true history,as we might find out something as people are now,history is scrpited,why when a swcientist find something that can't explain they give a 3rd grade answer,their true knowledge

a reply to: Oldtimer2

As opposed to Christians who tell stories others created? Even if your opinion of scientists were true. At best you get equal footing.

Well, don't Walrus, Sea Lions and Seals have Whiskers?

Aren't baby seals born with fur over all their bodies......and hence killed by humans for their pelts?

Maybe the undersea USO flying peoples are advanced Seals and Sea Lions............

The aquatic ape hypothesis does have some interesting elements, not least the observation that we (humans) are OK near, in and out of water. The hypothesis speculates that the upright walking could have aided wading in deep water, for example. Additionally, fish and shellfish contributed to the development of a big brain.

Of course, the hypothesis is just that. Getting the evidence to support a far distant ancestor who liked to swim a lot is difficult.

The hypothesis does not say our ancestors looked like dolphins, just that they lived around and depended on water.

originally posted by: Starcrossd
Thank you very much, this is really interesting and Elaine was captivating to listen to.
I thought the fact about the fat layer was especially compelling. Very cool. Thanks again

Glad you enjoyed and had the actual time and desire to listen to the Ted Talk.. There were several points she exposed that could make one think Hummmm but they could all be coincidences... Either way, for me and a few of us at ATS, like you, it was time not wasted being exposed to the possibilities.

originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: 727Sky

I dont really believe we came from monkeys or apes. Sometimes I wonder if maybe monkeys and apes are maybe some genetic mutation caused from some ancient nuclear war. To me that's easier to buy than evolution as taught in school.

Aazing in 2019 u still gotta correct people. Nobody ever said we came from monkeysvamd apes. Not one evolutionary theory does

the streamline fine hairs on our backs says it all.

for me.

Why not consciousness as a driving evolutionary force? Ehhh??? Ehhh??? ..guys?
a reply to: 727Sky

a reply to: cognizant420

When I see a video of a liberal campus protest against some perceived slight, i'm often reminded of one of those nature videos showing a tribe of monkeysapes facing off against a predator, or an opposing tribe.

I dont mean this in a racial way, so please dont try to missrepresent me as this crosses all racial boundries (a lot of campus protests are by majority white students, after all). I was more thinking along the lines of manerisms. Particularly the hands being waived above the heads and the chanting and screaming.

I can quite believe that we're still apes some times. And again, i don't mean this in a racial way.