Lazar, Greer and Wilson Memo

Lets just take a step back and look at the picture.

1. We have Bob Lazar detailing his 6 months experiencing in trying reverse engineer a specific warp drive (not so different from the one described by Alcubierre). Plus info on a stable isotop of element 115 and the lengthy efforts made to erase his identity.

2. We have Steven Greer, a surgeon, stepping aside medicine to pursue a "not so reputable" topic of ufology. Deep government, uncontrolled interest above nation's highest authorities (presidency, congress, Senate, courts, federal agencies...).

3. Now we have the so called "Wilson leak" (was it leaked or made available?) confirming much of what as been said by Lazar, Greer and others. Along with further names coming out.

4. We have more and more senators being debriefed on classified and supposedly alien (ET) related matters, following the announcement of a Space Force. The overall topic seems to be the need to in fact regulate the activities that for long have been conducted without proper supervision by democratic elected representatives.

5. Every day now a new sighting is reported by media, and if you pay attention you'll note there is been a shift in reporting styles, from simply dismissive to "maybe there's something more going on".

6. Foreign governments are also much more active in space field, with new space agencies being created around the world at amazing rate.

Keep an eye out and your ears open.

Coming 10 years will blow our minds.

originally posted by: Falkner

2. We have Steven Greer...

There goes the BS alert YET AGAIN...

No point moving to " 3." Things were already falling apart at " 1."

a reply to: Falkner

And the Vatican has an observatory in Arizona. They know something....

www.vaticanobservatory.va...

But I don't trust Greer, Lear, Lazar, or the rest of that spooky C2C crowd, any further than I can throw a skinwalker.

a reply to: olaru12

Ohh I’m sure you’ll be quite surprised as to how far you can toss a Skinwalker.
Quite surprised.

Heard Lazar on Joe Rogan. I think he's being truthful and has had a few of his claims substantiated. He's on record claiming things that have recently been verified. I want to believe, but I'm incredibly skeptical. Lazar has given me hope that we are not alone.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Better than sceptic? Objective.

You cannot agree with all he said, as well as you cannot prove many of what he sais.

Knowing that, some stuff are coming to daylight that are pretty close to some of the claims.

Open eye and no judgement, please.

5. Every day now a new sighting is reported by media, and if you pay attention you'll note there is been a shift in reporting styles, from simply dismissive to "maybe there's something more going on".

This is the one the caught my attention.
It can't be long now until someone gets compelling, maybe even conclusive, footage/evidence as to what these orbs are.

I've seen 2 myself before, 1 each on consecutive nights. And i know they weren't chinese lanterns, flares, drones, planes, helicopters etc etc. It annoys me to this day that i didn't have my phone on me to record them. Of course when i looked for them on subsequent nights, and i did have my phone, they didn't show up. Typical!

I also agree that there is a change of reporting, more acceptance that they're happening and not just dismissed immediately as hoaxers or 'natural phenomenon'

a reply to: Starhooker

Oh... I have no doubts we are not alone (pure act of belief and as someone said it, a pure waist of space).

Trying being objective, the fair questions are:
1. how far more advanced we are than we think we are.
2. how such technology came to be available? pure research, aliens?
3. can we start wrapping space-time and move at ease without breaking any "laws of physics or do have wrong or simply incomplete laws of physics?
4. and accountability. who is responsible for that tech?

Those are the questions I would like to see answered, more than wether we're being visited or not.

Coming 10 years will blow our minds.

I hope it doesn't take this long to get disclosure though....I'm hoping the next couple of years...max

a reply to: Falkner

Lazar made a statement about elements that aren't in our periodic table. Elements that can only be formed via binary star black holes. And that a civilization that arose in that system, with those elements beyond our limited spectrum, could make said civilization more advanced a lot quicker. They wouldn't have to rely on the energy sources we do. Like being born in the Gobi desert compared to someone born in silicon valley. I believe we're not alone, but I'd love some scientific verification.

originally posted by: Starhooker
Heard Lazar on Joe Rogan. I think he's being truthful and has had a few of his claims substantiated. He's on record claiming things that have recently been verified. I want to believe, but I'm incredibly skeptical. Lazar has given me hope that we are not alone.

Netflix has the docu. It vindicates Lazar.

a reply to: Creep Thumper
That's mostly why, I think, that he was on the show. To get more attention and hype for the documentary. I'll watch it soon. And thanks for the heads up. I was worried it would just be more fluff.

originally posted by: Falkner
a reply to: Starhooker

Oh... I have no doubts we are not alone (pure act of belief and as someone said it, a pure waist of space).

Trying being objective, the fair questions are:
1. how far more advanced we are than we think we are.
2. how such technology came to be available? pure research, aliens?
3. can we start wrapping space-time and move at ease without breaking any "laws of physics or do have wrong or simply incomplete laws of physics?
4. and accountability. who is responsible for that tech?

Those are the questions I would like to see answered, more than wether we're being visited or not.

1. - Vague - who do you mean by 'we'. Does the Military have technology that the common man doesn't understand, maybe laser targeting or armor plating or stealth coatings or special supersonic fuel blends. Sure. Every military has some of that the population doesn't know about it. Is it 'We have 'Star Trek Level stuff' that Ben Rich is supposed to have heard them say? No, that's silly.

2. So far nothing we know of hasn't come from the research and hard work. All of the claims made by 'Beyond Roswell' author Corso are stories and he's known to have fabricated stories for a long time (as per his family and kids). There are no space-faring highly intelligent sentient beings coming to Earth now or any time in the past from the Milky Way or any of the Local Group (gravitationally bound clusters) nor is there anything which would make one think so, like powerful batteries that last forever that are the size of a paperback book.

3. So far 'inertial-less' ships are still sci-fi and movies only. We have to use orbital assist to get from launch to the ISS - we don't 'fly right there'.

4. Responsible for military and technological secrets? Compartmentalized, need-to-know, to prevent espionage, primarily. Of course corporations also keep proprietary and patent secrets. It's good business practice to not inform your competitors needlessly.

HTH

a reply to: Maverick7

Do you think we know all of the possibilities of matter? Are earthly elements all that are possible in the universe. Can you say for sure that we are masters of all that is possible in physics? Could there be more elements we aren't aware of?

I think it's a good thing we're opening up to something.

Now that could end up good or bad, or somewhere in between. Of course, we all hope for the good.

The OPs point is well taken that the interesting evens of the MSM having a positive viewpoint of ufo experience, in opposition to past negative views, is in itself significant... But not revealing in itself of anything substantial.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Falkner

And the Vatican has an observatory in Arizona. They know something....

www.vaticanobservatory.va...

But I don't trust Greer, Lear, Lazar, or the rest of that spooky C2C crowd, any further than I can throw a skinwalker.

Skinwalkers are weightless. You might be able to throw a Skinwalker if you could find one

Greer is a hack plz don't associate him with Lazar.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Falkner

And the Vatican has an observatory in Arizona. They know something....

www.vaticanobservatory.va...

But I don't trust Greer, Lear, Lazar, or the rest of that spooky C2C crowd, any further than I can throw a skinwalker.

I’ve lived in Tucson since 1991. This is the first I’ve heard of this observatory. I will check it out. Less than 3 hour drive.

a reply to: olaru12


Have met, spoken to, or spent time with any of those people you've put on your "Don't Trust" list??

a reply to: Maverick7

You seem like the kind of person who would've supported the judgement against Galileo. The suggestion of the possibilities that exist beyond your limited imagination is heresy in your eyes apparently. Burn us at the stake.