UK: Boy suspended from school for saying there are ‘only two genders’

originally posted by: continuousThunder
a reply to: Raggedyman

i never forced nothing on no one buddy, i'm just droppin in to check for UFO sightings between eps of Babylon 5 and seeing nothing but a wall to wall expanse of 10-page threads using any excuse under the sun to rant about trans people.
certainly sounds obsessive to me.

No but you said we had a narrow mindset.
This thread is about punitive actions against people who don’t agree with a minority narrative
It’s not about abuse, disrespect nor exclusion unless you happen to think that chromosomes make up gender identity, it’s about opinion
And you don’t like ours

Again, a person who doesn’t accept their gender identity has my support and compassion but, they have psychological issues
Their chromosomes make up their identity not their opinion in my opinion

a reply to: Raggedyman

It’s not about abuse, disrespect nor exclusion unless you happen to think that chromosomes make up gender identity, it’s about opinion

The boy was suspended for his conduct, not for his opinion.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Raggedyman

It’s not about abuse, disrespect nor exclusion unless you happen to think that chromosomes make up gender identity, it’s about opinion

The boy was suspended for his conduct, not for his opinion.

Giving an opinion was his conduct
I didn’t see any conduct that deserved suspension only the video he recorded

You have nothing but an opinion sookie, sorry we disagree and I will leave it there
Each to his or her, it’s own

a reply to: JPtruther

I respect the content but people are asking the wrong question, why are those that govern mentality pushing this agenda? Is the question we should be looking to answer, for me its just another thing to create confusion, distraction and division... Same shhh always through multiple agendas.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Boadicea

This isn't about the "trans agenda". The boy wasn't suspended for his opinion. He was suspended for his behavior. That kind of public disruption and disrespect gets people into trouble with authority figures, whether it be law enforcement, school authorities or you boss at work. It's just common sense.

I'm so used to you playing the victim card. YAWN...

Shut up and obey!

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Raggedyman

Schools shouldnt preach and that is what they are doing

No they weren't. They were explaining their policy and how they expect the student body to treat their transgender fellow students.

Really, I didn’t hear anyone say they didn’t treat anyone with disrespect, just the teacher demanding the student to conform to a silly belief

Men are not women, women are not men
It had nothing to do with the student body, it was an opinion over belief

I respect and treat trans people sincerely but I don’t believe a man serving me coffee dressed as a woman is a woman.

Telling people what they have to believe is not treating people with respect

If the student tells a trans woman that she is not a woman that is an act of disrespect to the trans woman. The teacher tells the student to keep his opinions to himself, and he should when he is in that institution that asks everyone to respect each other and follow their policies.

Define "woman", please. And please give the set of objective and non-circular criteria by which one can determine the case. Oh, that's right: you pink, white and blue flag wavers can't even provide us with a clear, consistent and coherent sense of the word you use. You are all literally blathering meaningless nonsense.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: BelowLowAnnouncement

So because he doesn't believe there are more than 2 genders,

No I think that his behavior speaks for itself, because of the way he disrupted the class, disrespected his teacher and rejected the school policy of inclusion, that the teacher was trying to explain. If he acted that way in a classroom discussion, I believe that he will be equally disruptive and disrespectful to his fellow students in the hallways.

He lives in a world where the reality is that people express their gender in more than 2 ways, and he better get used to it, or he's going to have more problems with authority.

It appears you're the one with a problem with authority, namely, your constant invocation of it as something we ought to bow down to.

a reply to: Theosist

You don't think that high school students should respect their teachers when they're informing the student body of school policy and how they're expected to behave in certain situations?

originally posted by: Theosist

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Raggedyman

Schools shouldnt preach and that is what they are doing

No they weren't. They were explaining their policy and how they expect the student body to treat their transgender fellow students.

Really, I didn’t hear anyone say they didn’t treat anyone with disrespect, just the teacher demanding the student to conform to a silly belief

Men are not women, women are not men
It had nothing to do with the student body, it was an opinion over belief

I respect and treat trans people sincerely but I don’t believe a man serving me coffee dressed as a woman is a woman.

Telling people what they have to believe is not treating people with respect

If the student tells a trans woman that she is not a woman that is an act of disrespect to the trans woman. The teacher tells the student to keep his opinions to himself, and he should when he is in that institution that asks everyone to respect each other and follow their policies.

Define "woman", please. And please give the set of objective and non-circular criteria by which one can determine the case. Oh, that's right: you pink, white and blue flag wavers can't even provide us with a clear, consistent and coherent sense of the word you use. You are all literally blathering meaningless nonsense.

What I am proposing on this thread is that when a student is confused or has misinformation, it is not enough for school authority to simply quote policy or let a situation escalate as it did here. Granted, maybe the student was just acting out, but even still, a student acting out is something that should be explored.

I am proposing that educators should be trained in how to engage student's who act out, first, by providing them with some outlet whereby more information on the specific subject in which they may seem confused about. In this case, it seems the subject of transgenderism and/or respect for diversity and/or human rights for all is causing this student to act.

Then if the question arose to define 'woman', hopefully, an intelligent and educational exchange might happen.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Theosist

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Raggedyman

Schools shouldnt preach and that is what they are doing

No they weren't. They were explaining their policy and how they expect the student body to treat their transgender fellow students.

Really, I didn’t hear anyone say they didn’t treat anyone with disrespect, just the teacher demanding the student to conform to a silly belief

Men are not women, women are not men
It had nothing to do with the student body, it was an opinion over belief

I respect and treat trans people sincerely but I don’t believe a man serving me coffee dressed as a woman is a woman.

Telling people what they have to believe is not treating people with respect

If the student tells a trans woman that she is not a woman that is an act of disrespect to the trans woman. The teacher tells the student to keep his opinions to himself, and he should when he is in that institution that asks everyone to respect each other and follow their policies.

Define "woman", please. And please give the set of objective and non-circular criteria by which one can determine the case. Oh, that's right: you pink, white and blue flag wavers can't even provide us with a clear, consistent and coherent sense of the word you use. You are all literally blathering meaningless nonsense.

What I am proposing on this thread is that when a student is confused or has misinformation, it is not enough for school authority to simply quote policy or let a situation escalate as it did here. Granted, maybe the student was just acting out, but even still, a student acting out is something that should be explored.

I am proposing that educators should be trained in how to engage student's who act out, first, by providing them with some outlet whereby more information on the specific subject in which they may seem confused about. In this case, it seems the subject of transgenderism and/or respect for diversity and/or human rights for all is causing this student to act.

Then if the question arose to define 'woman', hopefully, an intelligent and educational exchange might happen.

You are assuming the student is wrong and the teacher is right...
Interestingly, Bill Gates’ Common Core was meant to go worldwide and I think it has gone to other countries via the UN. The gender fluidity indoctrination is not just about having social justice. One had to go back to what former kgb operative Yuri Besmenov told us about destabilizing countries to allow for takeover from outside. pjmedia.com...

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Theosist

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Raggedyman

Schools shouldnt preach and that is what they are doing

No they weren't. They were explaining their policy and how they expect the student body to treat their transgender fellow students.

Really, I didn’t hear anyone say they didn’t treat anyone with disrespect, just the teacher demanding the student to conform to a silly belief

Men are not women, women are not men
It had nothing to do with the student body, it was an opinion over belief

I respect and treat trans people sincerely but I don’t believe a man serving me coffee dressed as a woman is a woman.

Telling people what they have to believe is not treating people with respect

If the student tells a trans woman that she is not a woman that is an act of disrespect to the trans woman. The teacher tells the student to keep his opinions to himself, and he should when he is in that institution that asks everyone to respect each other and follow their policies.

Define "woman", please. And please give the set of objective and non-circular criteria by which one can determine the case. Oh, that's right: you pink, white and blue flag wavers can't even provide us with a clear, consistent and coherent sense of the word you use. You are all literally blathering meaningless nonsense.

What I am proposing on this thread is that when a student is confused or has misinformation, it is not enough for school authority to simply quote policy or let a situation escalate as it did here. Granted, maybe the student was just acting out, but even still, a student acting out is something that should be explored.

I am proposing that educators should be trained in how to engage student's who act out, first, by providing them with some outlet whereby more information on the specific subject in which they may seem confused about. In this case, it seems the subject of transgenderism and/or respect for diversity and/or human rights for all is causing this student to act.

Then if the question arose to define 'woman', hopefully, an intelligent and educational exchange might happen.

You are assuming the student is wrong and the teacher is right...
Interestingly, Bill Gates’ Common Core was meant to go worldwide and I think it has gone to other countries via the UN. The gender fluidity indoctrination is not just about having social justice. One had to go back to what former kgb operative Yuri Besmenov told us about destabilizing countries to allow for takeover from outside.

I am assuming that we all have a lot more to learn about it, in many ways. Again, exchanges such as these need to be looked at and taken to a place of mutual open-mindedness with science and the human element as our guide. Close mindedness, fear and hate will keep us down...the takeover is from the inside in that respect.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Theosist

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Raggedyman

Schools shouldnt preach and that is what they are doing

No they weren't. They were explaining their policy and how they expect the student body to treat their transgender fellow students.

Really, I didn’t hear anyone say they didn’t treat anyone with disrespect, just the teacher demanding the student to conform to a silly belief

Men are not women, women are not men
It had nothing to do with the student body, it was an opinion over belief

I respect and treat trans people sincerely but I don’t believe a man serving me coffee dressed as a woman is a woman.

Telling people what they have to believe is not treating people with respect

If the student tells a trans woman that she is not a woman that is an act of disrespect to the trans woman. The teacher tells the student to keep his opinions to himself, and he should when he is in that institution that asks everyone to respect each other and follow their policies.

Define "woman", please. And please give the set of objective and non-circular criteria by which one can determine the case. Oh, that's right: you pink, white and blue flag wavers can't even provide us with a clear, consistent and coherent sense of the word you use. You are all literally blathering meaningless nonsense.

What I am proposing on this thread is that when a student is confused or has misinformation, it is not enough for school authority to simply quote policy or let a situation escalate as it did here. Granted, maybe the student was just acting out, but even still, a student acting out is something that should be explored.

I am proposing that educators should be trained in how to engage student's who act out, first, by providing them with some outlet whereby more information on the specific subject in which they may seem confused about. In this case, it seems the subject of transgenderism and/or respect for diversity and/or human rights for all is causing this student to act.

Then if the question arose to define 'woman', hopefully, an intelligent and educational exchange might happen.

You are assuming the student is wrong and the teacher is right...
Interestingly, Bill Gates’ Common Core was meant to go worldwide and I think it has gone to other countries via the UN. The gender fluidity indoctrination is not just about having social justice. One had to go back to what former kgb operative Yuri Besmenov told us about destabilizing countries to allow for takeover from outside.

I am assuming that we all have a lot more to learn about it, in many ways. Again, exchanges such as these need to be looked at and taken to a place of mutual open-mindedness with science and the human element as our guide. Close mindedness, fear and hate will keep us down...the takeover is from the inside in that respect.

There is a difference between closed mindedness and not allowing bizarre globalist agendas to eliminate real science.
Believe it or not, I understand and respect your metaphysical approach. I too am a metaphysician. There are many wonderful, new things being explored which challenge old thinking, such as neuroplasticity, new brain cells where they thought the cells just die and thats that, or quantum physics in the universe. I have to ask, what is the real agenda of gender fluidity, and why would we accept the idea of radical surgery and hormone therapies on small children who are unable to defend themselves against obsessive adults ? Does this not go against the Yin and yang balance of our Father-Mother God?
King James Bible
“I AM Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.“ Revelation 22:13
Also, why do they not teach reincarnation and the androgynous soul who is male in many lifetimes then has to take incarnation as a female? Why do they not help the soul understand the true metaphysics instead of confusing the ;&))our of them and sending them into radical therapies? I believe the answer is rooted in Satanic black magic practiced worldwide.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Theosist

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Raggedyman

Schools shouldnt preach and that is what they are doing

No they weren't. They were explaining their policy and how they expect the student body to treat their transgender fellow students.

Really, I didn’t hear anyone say they didn’t treat anyone with disrespect, just the teacher demanding the student to conform to a silly belief

Men are not women, women are not men
It had nothing to do with the student body, it was an opinion over belief

I respect and treat trans people sincerely but I don’t believe a man serving me coffee dressed as a woman is a woman.

Telling people what they have to believe is not treating people with respect

If the student tells a trans woman that she is not a woman that is an act of disrespect to the trans woman. The teacher tells the student to keep his opinions to himself, and he should when he is in that institution that asks everyone to respect each other and follow their policies.

Define "woman", please. And please give the set of objective and non-circular criteria by which one can determine the case. Oh, that's right: you pink, white and blue flag wavers can't even provide us with a clear, consistent and coherent sense of the word you use. You are all literally blathering meaningless nonsense.

What I am proposing on this thread is that when a student is confused or has misinformation, it is not enough for school authority to simply quote policy or let a situation escalate as it did here. Granted, maybe the student was just acting out, but even still, a student acting out is something that should be explored.

I am proposing that educators should be trained in how to engage student's who act out, first, by providing them with some outlet whereby more information on the specific subject in which they may seem confused about. In this case, it seems the subject of transgenderism and/or respect for diversity and/or human rights for all is causing this student to act.

Then if the question arose to define 'woman', hopefully, an intelligent and educational exchange might happen.

You are assuming the student is wrong and the teacher is right...
Interestingly, Bill Gates’ Common Core was meant to go worldwide and I think it has gone to other countries via the UN. The gender fluidity indoctrination is not just about having social justice. One had to go back to what former kgb operative Yuri Besmenov told us about destabilizing countries to allow for takeover from outside.

I am assuming that we all have a lot more to learn about it, in many ways. Again, exchanges such as these need to be looked at and taken to a place of mutual open-mindedness with science and the human element as our guide. Close mindedness, fear and hate will keep us down...the takeover is from the inside in that respect.

There is a difference between closed mindedness and not allowing bizarre globalist agendas to eliminate real science.

Real science, as everything else here, seems to be subjective no matter the evidence or methodology. So, here we are.

a reply to: InTheLight

Others, like Triller Haver, say that teaching the subject of gender identity to kindergartners encroaches on paren

The Obama admin mandated some things www.google.com...
Everything about that admin is/was radical and I think even diabolical . I have always thought there was a hugely Statist edge on the Progressive side ...
I remember Obama the candidate at the Saddleback Forum
Talking about parents as if they are the enemy of the State, and indeed they are, in the eyes of a One World Socialist superstate.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Theosist

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Raggedyman

Schools shouldnt preach and that is what they are doing

No they weren't. They were explaining their policy and how they expect the student body to treat their transgender fellow students.

Really, I didn’t hear anyone say they didn’t treat anyone with disrespect, just the teacher demanding the student to conform to a silly belief

Men are not women, women are not men
It had nothing to do with the student body, it was an opinion over belief

I respect and treat trans people sincerely but I don’t believe a man serving me coffee dressed as a woman is a woman.

Telling people what they have to believe is not treating people with respect

If the student tells a trans woman that she is not a woman that is an act of disrespect to the trans woman. The teacher tells the student to keep his opinions to himself, and he should when he is in that institution that asks everyone to respect each other and follow their policies.

Define "woman", please. And please give the set of objective and non-circular criteria by which one can determine the case. Oh, that's right: you pink, white and blue flag wavers can't even provide us with a clear, consistent and coherent sense of the word you use. You are all literally blathering meaningless nonsense.

What I am proposing on this thread is that when a student is confused or has misinformation, it is not enough for school authority to simply quote policy or let a situation escalate as it did here. Granted, maybe the student was just acting out, but even still, a student acting out is something that should be explored.

I am proposing that educators should be trained in how to engage student's who act out, first, by providing them with some outlet whereby more information on the specific subject in which they may seem confused about. In this case, it seems the subject of transgenderism and/or respect for diversity and/or human rights for all is causing this student to act.

Then if the question arose to define 'woman', hopefully, an intelligent and educational exchange might happen.

You are assuming the student is wrong and the teacher is right...
Interestingly, Bill Gates’ Common Core was meant to go worldwide and I think it has gone to other countries via the UN. The gender fluidity indoctrination is not just about having social justice. One had to go back to what former kgb operative Yuri Besmenov told us about destabilizing countries to allow for takeover from outside.

I am assuming that we all have a lot more to learn about it, in many ways. Again, exchanges such as these need to be looked at and taken to a place of mutual open-mindedness with science and the human element as our guide. Close mindedness, fear and hate will keep us down...the takeover is from the inside in that respect.

There is a difference between closed mindedness and not allowing bizarre globalist agendas to eliminate real science.

Real science, as everything else here, seems to be subjective no matter the evidence or methodology. So, here we are.

There is something called “ the Scientific Method”.

The word "science" is derived from the Latin word scientia, which is knowledge based on demonstrable and reproducible data, according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. True to this definition, science aims for measurable results through testing and analysis. Science is based on fact, not opinion or preferences. The process of science is designed to challenge ideas through research.

www.google.com...
In honesty, how much does ideology drive the scientific community and determine the output?

There are FOUR lights!

Good on you for standing your ground!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: projectvxn
More trans activist BS.

Coddling the mentally ill by marginalizing normal people.

To be fair its Sexes. Sex is what gender is confused with. Scientificaly he was wrong.

In my opinion, a lot of the confusion and civil disobedience comes from gender assigned role models. Girls wear pink and play with dolls. Boys wear blue and play with trucks. When personalities rebel and deviate from gender role models, society as a whole becomes uncomfortable.

Fashion apparel is a huge gender role identifier, and some people suffer by the social inability to express themselves through gender acceptable fashion. And that's where you're seeing the most deviation, in a person's choice of expressing themselves through their gender assigned fashion apparel choices.

Well you know what ... I’ve seen a lot of businessmen wear pink button down shirts... so it’s ok for a man to wear pink. I know a woman who’s a sharp shooter (I live in the Wild West). Lots of women pursue martial arts. What is NOT ok is for adults to push their confusion on to small children who are impressionable and vulnerable and push for radical therapies on children involving surgical alteration with life altering consequences. This is an insane way for people to behave. It is one of the most outrageous things I’ve seen in my lifetime. And why are these people targeting schoolchildren ?

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

You think that kid in the video, the one that got suspended for his behavior, was a small child?

This was a high school. In class the teachers were instructed to relay the school's policy on the treatment of transgender students by their fellow students, and teachers too I would presume. It wasn't up for debate, and arguing with the teacher was not only futile, in this case it was disrespectful and disruptive. Which is why the teenage high school student was suspended.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

You think that kid in the video, the one that got suspended for his behavior, was a small child?

This was a high school. In class the teachers were instructed to relay the school's policy on the treatment of transgender students by their fellow students, and teachers too I would presume. It wasn't up for debate, and arguing with the teacher was not only futile, in this case it was disrespectful and disruptive. Which is why the teenage high school student was suspended.

High school is the time of maturity which should also include emotional, intellectual and scientific debate. I don't know, the more I see the more I mourn for humanity.

a reply to: InTheLight

I hear ya, but that's pretty progressive. In real life, where big wheels move really slow, high school teaches you about authority. It's power is everywhere. In education, in the job world, in the religious sector and certainly in law enforcement and the penal code. If that kid had talked that way to his boss about a company policy, he would have been fired. If it was the police, and he was arguing about the injustice of some law he just broke...…