Brazilian mother and lesbian lover, 'tore off her nine-year-old son's penis before beheading him

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

What does this have to do with them being lesbians? Crazy is crazy, whether it's a straight or gay person we're talking about.

I dunno, ripping off his dick and sewing a fake vagina on his dead body, seems likely they didn't like boys.

Brazilian sources have a slightly different description of the events.

Attention: please do not read if you are affected by the description of gruesome actions.

The removing of the boy's penis happened one or two (according to different sources) years ago, it was not done just before the killing, as most English versions appear to imply. He was beheaded, then cut into pieces that they tried to burn. Afraid of the smoke alerting the neighbours they put the boy's remains into a suitcase they abandoned in a gutter, but were seen by some boys, so they were caught quickly.

She said she didn't like the boy because he reminded her of the boy's father, not of her father.

And no, she didn't say she killed the boy because he wanted to be a girl, The Mirror title is completely wrong.

originally posted by: gallop
I dunno, ripping off his dick and sewing a fake vagina on his dead body, seems likely they didn't like boys.

They didn't like men, and that shows on the 9 years old girl, the police says she didn't look at her father's face when he came to see her.

All things point to a typical psychopath behaviour from a pair, with one being the one that makes the decisions and the other the one that blindly follows them. The way they told what happened showed a lack of emotion, also typical of psychopaths, so in this case everything points to a couple of psychopaths that, apparently, are lesbians, but the fact(?) that they are lesbians is not the reason why they acted the way they did.

a reply to: ArMaP

Good comments. I neglected to read foreign language sites, the translation always leaves something to be desired. That falls on me however, need to be better factually equipped.

Sick people regardless of anything. One thing I think we can be certain of though, the events in this were not the of the mindset of embracing masculinity. As deranged as it was, in their reality, things were done to create something else.

Seeing the photo of the pair, well... poor children. poor child.

a reply to: ArMaP

And no, she didn't say she killed the boy because he wanted to be a girl, The Mirror title is completely wrong.

How low will you go to deflect and distract???

No, the title is not "completely" wrong: "Mum 'beheaded son, 9, after stabbing him 12 times because he wanted to be a girl'". The motive is wrong, not the absolutely horrific and unconscionable torture and violence inflicted on this boy. But you're just worried about the motive being wrong? Is their true motive -- because they wanted him to be a "girl" -- any better? Is there a justifiable motive for such monstrous acts against a child???

I understand that these women are completely and totally insane. I'm sure they literally had no knowledge or recognition of the atrocity they were committing.

What I hope I never understand is how people can make excuses and minimize the heinousness of the crime. And for what?

Heaven help us.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Crazy people do crazy things...

Crazy is crazy, and this is sick. We all know you wouldn't have posted this if it were straight people who committed the crimes though. The news probably wouldn't have even made it out of Brazil.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Crazy is crazy, and this is sick.

Yup.

We all know you wouldn't have posted this if it were straight people who committed the crimes though. The news probably wouldn't have even made it out of Brazil.

Really? So if a husband and wife had done this to their child, you really don't think it would have been newsworthy? Because heterosexual couples do this to their kids all the time? Just another ho hum day in the life of heterosexuals? You really think the story is that the mother and accomplice are lesbians? Not the absolutely horrendous thing they did to the child?

Let's think about this... any good journalist includes the 5 W's in their story: Who, what, when, where, and why... plus how when applicable. The "who" demands the inclusion of the two perpetrators, as well as their relationship to the boy. The lesbian relationship explains both their relationship to the boy as well as the access and involvement of the non-parent in the situation.

But the real story is the violent crimes against the boy -- no matter who perpetrated those crimes.

Not to be callous but this kind of crazy # happens from time to time and place to place. Brazil is kind of crazy IMO I passed through there about a decade ago and the local newspapers had articles of the recent dismembered bodies found by the river that weekend and the locals said it was a regular occurrence. Aside from being sickened about it, there is nothing for us to do.

In Mexico cartels regularly kidnap people to never be found again including men women and children. I read they have acid vats the dispose of bodies with. When I was in Tegucigalpa Honduras I felt more in danger than when I was in Iraq. The newspapers listing found bodies were a regular occurrence. The sane people and businesses had self-imposed curfews each night.

This where I am a bit callous because unless something like that happens in the US I don't pay much mind to it. News flash for some, stuff like that does happen in the US. Last shocking one I remember was a mother killing her kids because she though they were possessed there is also that religious group that doesn't believe in modern medicine and their town graveyard is full of children. For general killings on average we have Detroit.

originally posted by: Boadicea

Sure. The fact that they were gay had nothing to do with your reason for posting this. You would never start a thread with such motivation.



Of your last 9 threads, only 1 isn't LGBT bashing. It seems you have an obsession.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

I do believe that we will be seeing more of this madness more and more around the world.

Its been happening since .........

always

originally posted by: Boadicea
How low will you go to deflect and distract???

"Deflect and distract"? Just because I used the word "completely" when I said the title of that specific article was wrong?

No, the title is not "completely" wrong: "Mum 'beheaded son, 9, after stabbing him 12 times because he wanted to be a girl'". The motive is wrong, not the absolutely horrific and unconscionable torture and violence inflicted on this boy.

It's true, the title is not "completely wrong", the word "completely" was left from what I had originally written, and I didn't remove it when I reworded my post. My bad for not noticing it and for "getting your knickers in a twist" as a result.

But you're just worried about the motive being wrong? Is their true motive -- because they wanted him to be a "girl" -- any better? Is there a justifiable motive for such monstrous acts against a child???

No, I'm not worried about the motive being wrong, but as I said at the start of the post, some things were wrong on most English versions of the news, so I posted information (that you ignored, focused as you were on my opinion about the title of that article) from Brazilian sources, as I always prefer sources from the place where the event being talked about happened.

What I hope I never understand is how people can make excuses and minimize the heinousness of the crime. And for what?

Who is making excuses or minimising the heinousness of their crime?

originally posted by: gallop
Good comments. I neglected to read foreign language sites, the translation always leaves something to be desired.

That's the advantage of speaking several languages, although in this case, as it happened in Brazil, the language is the same I speak.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Boadicea

Sure. The fact that they were gay had nothing to do with your reason for posting this.

Um... I didn't post this. But if I had, it would not have because these brutal torturous murderers were gay, but because they are brutal torturous murderers. And, just as I did in my very first reply, I would have noted that they are absolutely bat# crazy; NOT because they are gay.

You would never start a thread with such motivation.

You're absolutely right, I wouldn't.

How special! I'm being stalked!!!

Do note however, that each and every one of those threads is about Trans Activism, and specifically where the Trans Activism is harming others -- especially children, and I am very clear in my distinctions in my OPs.

Of your last 9 threads, only 1 isn't LGBT bashing. It seems you have an obsession.

Again, as noted above, no L or G or B bashing at all; and the only T bashing is against the Trans Activism and agenda, not against trans people, who cannot be lumped together no matter how hard they pretend otherwise. In fact, I also understand that the L, the G and the B are often victimized by the T. So I am very clear in my distinctions.

As for being obsessed... if the Activists were policing their own for wrongdoing and harm, there would be nothing for me to post about. Instead, the guilty are protected. Think about that. The more all such despicable and abhorrent behavior is excused, dismissed, minimized, mocked and belittled, the more determined those with a heart and a conscience must be to protect the innocent and vulnerable...

That you would even try to shame me for protecting children says a whole lot more about you than it does about me.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
The Daily Mail?

Go buy a real news paper son.

If you squint and concentrate real hard, I bet you can find words to type out that somehow blame Trump for the dykes murderous rampage?

Oh he wanted to be a gurl.

No crime then huh.

Just a freakin' pro-tip here on sourcing:

Never use The Sun, Mirror and Daily Fail. They are all well-known for twisting TF out of a story and making it into a totally different animal compared to what actually happened. They're the kind of "fake news" sources to avoid like an STD-riddled bar ho.


ArMaP pointed out where they took the info and either lied by omission, misrepresented info, or outright changed the info just enough to make it look like psycho lesbians Lorena Bobbited the kid before they went whole-hog on the murder. They're still psycho lesbians, but it has less to do with what they're doing in the bedroom and what the kid wanted, and more to do with the psycho mom viewing her kid as reminding her too much of his dad and needing to get rid of him.

The kid is dead all the same, BUT, trash news sources like those three I mentioned are infamous for spinning one hell of a web of bulls# for clickbait clicks.

a reply to: ArMaP

No, I'm not worried about the motive being wrong, but as I said at the start of the post, some things were wrong on most English versions of the news, so I posted information (that you ignored, focused as you were on my opinion about the title of that article) from Brazilian sources, as I always prefer sources from the place where the event being talked about happened.

Okay -- duly noted.

It's not unusual for details to vary and be mis-reported. None of the details mis-reported change the horrifying nature of the crime. Especially that they mutilated his body over a year ago. Rather, the fact that this boy was so tortured and abused for so long makes it that much more horrifying. I ignored nothing. I just didn't see anything at all that changed the totality of circumstances or the end result -- all of which were horrific. Including the motive, which you described as "completely" wrong, thus indicating that all the information in the title was wrong, and it wasn't.

Who is making excuses or minimising the heinousness of their crime?

The one nitpicking over petty details while not once calling this the horrific crime that it is, and glossing over their own misrepresentation of the facts. And that's not me.

Women are much more merciless

a reply to: ArMaP

That's the version I saw, and I am going to go out on a limb and assume the boy knew his mother hated him and expressed a desire to be a girl because his mother likely loved and favored the sister. The poor kid probably though that if only he was a girl, the abuse would stop.

It didn't.

Poor kiddo.