Unidentified - Inside America's UFO Investigation - series on History Channel

a reply to: data5091

Thanks much for your reply. I totally agree that with both current and active duty Navy making these reports, it does definitely lend credibility. I was so excited to see last night's episode.

I strongly believe that big government will have to listen and respect just what it is that's going on. I agree with those on this series that these UFO's are a national security threat. They have no respect for our restricted airspace and almost seem to be toying with us.

I have so much respect for everyone on this series. You can tell that they are passionate about what they're doing. This is all very credible and well thought out.

a reply to: ChiefD

I have just got so much respect, for what these former, and current and military people are doing, by stepping forward to relay their stories. But the current military are taking a BIG risk by coming forward and talking, so a big shout out to them is in order me thinks. Next weeks show looks like it will be at least partly on Rendlesham I saw in the trailer.

a reply to: data5091

You should have seen us at Kotar in ‘88 when our Echo Band SAM battery (training range) painted a SR71 at above its listed operational ceiling. The screens went fritzoid, and about 1hr later the “cease and desist” came thru the Comm Ctr.

There’s a lot going on in DOD and MIC R&D that rank and file (even Top Gun elites) have no idea about.

I’ll reserve further comment until Epi 3 & 4 completed.

S1E1.

- The military witnesses are pretty damn impressive.
- The Unidentified Team is pretty experienced and credentialed. Unknown agenda?
- Neither sets of F18s dispatched to intercept UFOs carried munitions. If a threat, why not arm your F18s? Paints a picture of “someone” knowing it wasn’t a threat. Paints a picture of this tech getting real world testing.
- Constant reference to these as “threat” when they’ve really not threatened anyone. Unknown or mysterious isn’t necessarily a threat.
- Possible that there are breakthrough tech that all levels of government may not be aware of. DOD/MIC is highly compartmentalized. This type of tech is breakthrough; would be handled with highest security. Just because you have access to highest spheres of intel doesn’t mean you have access to all spheres.
- Not ruling out civilian sector making the breakthrough. Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Program (BPP) 1996 -> 2002. Became Tau Zero Foundation. Diametric Drive.

S1E2.

- When tic tacs dropped off Princeton radar was it due to range limit or they literally disappeared of radar within its max range?
- Captains, Admirals do not seem phased by these events. Already “read in”? Already told “do not pursue”?
- One tic tac went underwater at 70 knots.
- Helo landed and confiscated tapes and required deletion of data. Really smells as MIC covering its own tracks.
- Steve Justice (Skunkworks) cannot eliminate possibility of human developed tech. He would not discuss Skunkworks testing protocols.
- This type tech would be huge leap… Prop -> Jet or Mechanical -> solid state.

S1E3.

- Lou is very guarded about his “knowing” of things he cannot share.
- Craft appear capable of trans medium environments. Propulsion? Guidance? Offensive/Defensive Capabilities? Operational Limits?

S1E4

- Active Duty Pilot -> Aerospace Engineer. Extremely credible. Cube inside Sphere. East Coast (USS Roosevelt) sightings. Go Fast & Gimbal videos.

- What is this about object flying into 120 knot winds? 120 knot wind = CAT 4 hurricane?!?
- None of the 3 videos show any heat signature (exhaust). Non exhaust/heat propulsion methods? Anti gravity?
- Possible enemy tech used to spy on US war games/training? Then why show yourself?
- Graves mentions watching HD versions of these videos. Why are public released versions the 640x640 versions? In a 4K world, where are the HD versions?

SUMMARY 1 -> 4. Still not sold on these being non-human technology. My current theory is Skunkworks type company has made breakthrough. Normal tech development or reverse engineer something that crashed in past? I’m open to either. Former seems most likely. I am convinced the anti gravity or other non-heat generating propulsion system has been created. How far along the R&D roadmap is the question.

Really interested in knowing more about BPP -> Tau Zero.

a reply to: Groot

Makes one wonder if something major is going to happen and they are just here to observe it.

I kind of feel that way myself sometimes.

Almost like I am here to observe something major.

c(_)

*sip*

But really, who knows?
Certainly the Gov. doesn't.

That is what scares them.

I think I might have actually seen a couple of these things about a year and a half ago high up over Burbank, Calif. Two very small things very high up. They would remain stationary for a while, then would move off in a straight line. They moved toward each other and then spun around each other, and then drifted apart in different directions until they just faded out. I thought they were"guided gallons" being used by Google for mapping, or like DARPA has been testing over Kansas City lately. Now I'm not sure. Haven't seen any since.

Thank you all for your posts and your thoughts, much appreciated. Please keep 'em coming.

At this point, my thoughts are that these craft may be something the Chinese intel stole from the U.S. And somehow reverse engineered. The Chinese like to steal our military tech, so it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

Whatever it is, it's very intriguing.

a reply to: ChiefD

This entire "UFOs exist and are here now!" scam is a very longterm deepstate hoax. Go way back to the early 20th century and find who was pushing this con job. You know there is some Leftist in the shadows somewhere deep in the military and media working on a hundred year plan to con Americans out of their birthright.

With the advent of the internet us ordinary citizens have wised up.

We now know about such deeply planted agents working long cons against the United States.

There ain't no UFOs and their ain't no aliens. It is all a bunch of nonsense. The AVgeeks are behind it with their smoke and mirrors.

a reply to: Generation9

There ain't no UFOs and their ain't no aliens.

So everyone is lying when they say they saw something in the sky they couldn't identify?

they actually know what they are seeing and lying by saying they don't and its a UFO to them, an unidentified flying object?

Aliens and UFOs are 2 separate things.

UFO exists simply because of observation, we can see and look up in the sky. we can see things in the skies that are alien (alien as in unknown not ET alien) to our knowledge at the time of observation.

Many UFOs with enough information can be identified but initially they are UFOs especially to the observer who cannot identify what they saw in the sky.

originally posted by: PilSungMtnMan
Still not sold on these being non-human technology.

Attn: Pil & Gen9,

Your Taos, New Mexico, beach condo with ocean view is now available for move-in.

Please make your checks out for $1,000,000 even and post them by end of day today.

I've only watched the first episode, but I believe these craft are ET. I mentioned this in another thread; but there has to be a realistic number to how much technology was extracted from the history of crashes we've had here. Maybe not all of them were known to the public over the past 50 years. Maybe countries traded technology with each other. But you'd assume that ET's would be smart enough to design the craft technology to only work if an ET is present while inside.

The ET's piloting these craft obviously want us to know that they are here. They know the air fighters won't shoot at them while on training exercises. The craft's technology could easily shut down the air fighter's functions it needed to. So the only logical reasoning I can think of is that they want us to know of their presence. When air pilots are questioned; they are asked "Was the UFO hostile". Since the UFO's don't shoot, the answer will always be "No, it just evaded us at a high speed until it appeared again".

a reply to: Generation9

Please do not insert politics in my thread. We are discussing UFO's, not deep state or politics. Go troll in the political forums please. Keep it out of here. Thanks in advance.

originally posted by: Hollywood1127
They know the air fighters won't shoot at them while on training exercises.

Nice post Hollywood!
I would like to start a thread called “UFO Advanced Discussion”.
Basically “The aliens are here ~ so what are they doing?” thread.
None of this “are they here?” waste of time nonsense.

But I do not know if anyone besides you and I would show up to comment in it.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

I would like to start a thread called “UFO Advanced Discussion”. Basically “The aliens are here ~ so what are they doing?” thread. None of this “are they here?” waste of time nonsense.

Its actually free to do so

wont cost anything than some time to type words you want read and replied too.

But I do not know if anyone besides you and I would show up to comment in it.

That attitude will keep to stuck in whatever box you be in at any certain point in your life.

If its in the aliens and UFO forum you will be guaranteed to get at least a few pages.

With that title and premise you will get many posts.

I think you are just scared of the critical posts, many will agree and many will point out other view point critical to yours.

You can do it

originally posted by: Generation9
You know there is some Leftist in the shadows somewhere deep in the military and media working on a hundred year plan to con Americans out of their birthright.

Yeah, right. "Leftist." That's hilarious.

Looking very much forward to episode 5 tonight, the Atomic Connection.

Why are so many ufo's interested in our weapons, esp. nuclear weapons.

originally posted by: data5091
Looking very much forward to episode 5 tonight, the Atomic Connection.

Why are so many ufo's interested in our weapons, esp. nuclear weapons.

It's annoying that - for me - clicking that link leads directly to a UK version of History (©2019 AETN UK All Rights Reserved) which of course does not allow the option to watch 'Unidentified' over here, or even read related articles on the US site. Accessing the US site via Google doesn't work either. I'll watch the actual episode via 'alternative' means, though.

Are you able to copy and paste the US History site's blurb on this episode, data5091? It's of special interest since TTSA are about to take fresh 'ownership' of the UK's own 1980 Rendlesham Forest case (arguably the Number One case in ufology).

I know from the trailer that Colonel Halt makes an appearance. Are any other witnesses named on the site?

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

S 1 E 5
The Atomic Connection
TV-PG L

An encounter in the American heartland indicates a disturbing twist to the UFO phenomenon. The team follows a trail of explosive evidence connecting UFOs to the most destructive weapons in human history. A former U.S Air Force Colonel discloses an encounter on Christmas Eve 1980 at a base hiding a secret stockpile of nuclear weapons, while where another former Air Force officer describes a UFO-related injury. Was the U.S. military planting UFO misinformation to distract attention from top secret test, or are they hiding an even more ominous threat?

Premieres on:Jun 28, 2019

Haven't watched it yet but will be in a few.

I just finished watching episode 5, another excellent episode. In this episode, they discuss the link between UFO's and nuclear missle sites, along with above ground nuclear missle testing that took place in the 50's. It seems these UFO's are very interested in anything nuclear. UFO's would show up before, after testing, and sometimes even during testing.

The Navy aircraft carriers that the UFO's were around were also nuclear powered. This is a compelling link, and more than just a coincidence. It is unnerving.

Then they discussed the Rendlesham Forest incident which took place on Rendlesham Air Force base in 1980. Colonel Halt was the deputy commander of the base then, and was sent to investigate some strange lights. These lights were not any type of aircraft, birds, weather phenomena, etc. They couldn't explain what they were, but they seemed very interested in the secretly stored nuclear weapons underground. Again a nuclear connection.

Colonel Halt taped what was going on. The higher ups took the tape, and nothing came of it. As usual, the higher ups cover these things up. An enlisted policeman by the name of John Burroughs went to investigate the lights with another Sergeant. The lights buzzed both of them, and Burroughs seemed to temporarily vanish. He stated he and the other guy then had lost time, didn't remember anything from that point until the next day.

Subsequently, Burroughs and the other guy wound up with all types of unexplained medical problems. He filed a claim, but the Air Force classified his medical records! Very sketchy on their part. They even tried to say he wasn't even in the Air Force in 1980. It took a dedicated staffer of Senator John McCain to get those records. She said she never experienced the stonewalling and difficulty she did getting those records.

I've never heard of any branch of the military classifying one's medical records. It just isn't done. Lots of sketchy things going on by the powers that be.

They actually addressed head on whether Luis Elizondo was creating disinformation, as he was in counter intelligence for 20 years. He adamantly denied this, and I believe him. I feel he truly wants to get the truth out there. The government cannot continue to claim that all these people are having hallucinations. They cannot continue to sweep this under the rug.

Something else that was addressed was that there is a theory that the whole UFO thing is a disinformation campaign by the government to cover up advanced weapons and aircraft testing. In the past, I believed this, but the more I see and hear about, the more I think that is bs. I think there are secrets the government is keeping from the people on UFO's, and the truth needs to come out. As Luis Elizondo stated, this is a national security threat. It's alarming that these UFO's are so interested in nukes. They invade restricted air space at will.

And the government continues to use our military personnel as guinea pigs. I think that is appalling and disgusting.

Please let me know your thoughts on this.

a reply to: ChiefD

It was interesting, I noted John Burroughs seems to be shocked that Jim Penniston had been compensated too.

Am sure there will be a lot discussed as time continues with all of this.