Iran responsible for 'blatant assault' on oil tankers in Gulf of Oman, Mike Pompeo says

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

USA is the worlds poloce man a role it took on ost 1950 and in that role tampers with every country on planet Earth one way bor another, especially when those nations are ultimate threats to wolrd peace.

Iran at this moment in time is probably the biggest threat to world peace and has a track history of murdering westernerers, indeed the examples of 300 US Marines muredered in Lebano by Iran or Lockerby taken down rthough the backdoor by Iran through their pay as you go teeorits Colonel Gaddafi, one way or another meddling in the whole of ME or even SArgentina bombngs, Iran is a very real threat to Planet earth. Heck even Araab and Israeli are finding union on thsi one

False flag by the Trump administration

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Know where you'r coming from there....................... The locals are still not ready for indepence being hoest and realistic abot it.

Nature vs nurture would say that the epicenter of civilization that also brought us algebra and many other bases for us to build modern society would point to nurture.

Nature would be they are susceptible to the same flaws other societies are, such as abuse of power and restriction of rights.

Other case studies such as many South American countries tired of foreign influence prop up "strong" leaders to maintain sovereignty. That often comes with a price.

Either way, I don't think modern colonialism would work, because America is trying that with Iraq and Afghanistan. This may come as a surprise, but some people don't like occupying forces. And while you may see it as bringing them salvation, many people don't want something forced on them by people who not only don't understand them, but don't care to.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Iran at this moment in time is probably the biggest threat to world peace

I think you could sell that statement more if you said biggest threat to regional peace, and I'd humor that along with you.

Iran has about a third of a GDP as Texas. They are a long ways off from being able to project out of their regional influence.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

Either way, I don't think modern colonialism would work, because America is trying that with Iraq and Afghanistan. This may come as a surprise, but some people don't like occupying forces. And while you may see it as bringing them salvation, many people don't want something forced on them by people who not only don't understand them, but don't care to.

So where is the answer if non intervention is they key?

Left to mitself with no outsife intervention we are likely to see a war of global proportions break out that will encompass the whole ME, Sunni pitted against Shia and here is the really scary bit....................vAt some point in the very near futureboth Sunni and Shia are going to get their nuclear arsenals and when the shiy hit the fan the the whole world is going to goup in smoke. That is the end result of the non interventionost idea, total nuke war between the factiond taking us all dow with them.

The cat is out of the bag now and that cat is far too bdangerous to let it roam around on its own. Only by controlling the ME can we avoid the scenario above. There is no other route at this point in time that can save the worlf from nuclear war

South America you gave by the way an intresresting bexample and at theb same time we need to remember that regio is in itself colonised today by the western ideas and religion of the Christians and our economic and judicial influences. South America might be the example of how to deal with the ME in the future if the tribes are tostop killing each other but howmlong has colonisation taken in S America................ Hundreds of years?

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

USA is the worlds poloce man a role it took on ost 1950 and in that role tampers with every country on planet Earth one way bor another, especially when those nations are ultimate threats to wolrd peace.

Iran at this moment in time is probably the biggest threat to world peace and has a track history of murdering westernerers, indeed the examples of 300 US Marines muredered in Lebano by Iran or Lockerby taken down rthough the backdoor by Iran through their pay as you go teeorits Colonel Gaddafi, one way or another meddling in the whole of ME or even SArgentina bombngs, Iran is a very real threat to Planet earth. Heck even Araab and Israeli are finding union on thsi one

You're an absolute space cadet mate

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

So where is the answer if non intervention is they key?

That's the trillion dollar question, but non intervention would save my country a multiple of that number, hence my stance.

Left to mitself with no outsife intervention we are likely to see a war of global proportions break out that will encompass the whole ME, Sunni pitted against Shia and here is the really scary bit....................vAt some point in the very near futureboth Sunni and Shia are going to get their nuclear arsenals and when the shiy hit the fan the the whole world is going to goup in smoke. That is the end result of the non interventionost idea, total nuke war between the factiond taking us all dow with them.

Taking us all down with them is a bit dramatic. None of the countries aside from Israel have the ability to deliver past a medium range. Their regional quarrel is just that, regional.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Nature vs nurture would say that the epicenter of civilization that also brought us algebra and many other bases for us to build modern society would point to nurture.

I'll give you algebra.

A^2 (with A=Arabs) x O^10 (with O=Oil) + F (with F=Freedom) = MCF (with MCF=Mongolian Cluster Intercourse)

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Nature vs nurture would say that the epicenter of civilization that also brought us algebra and many other bases for us to build modern society would point to nurture.

I'll give you algebra.

A^2 (with A=Arabs) x O^10 (with O=Oil) + F (with F=Freedom) = MCF (with MCF=Mongolian Cluster Intercourse)

Knowledge is power.

Soon Iran will hear the helicopters flying over, blasting the music of Lil Yaughty, with GenZ kids jumping out with pickle rick stickers on their helmet. Upon landing they will start yeeting mfers right and left. Then they will do fortnite dances over their bodies.

a reply to: CriticalStinker


The thought of that brought a tear to my eye. I'll make sure to thumbs up their selfies on the Instygram.

If the US populace actually buys in to this we deserve what we get. The US has used the "Our ships were attacked so we need to invade," line at least once every decade for the past 70 years.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Iran at this moment in time is probably the biggest threat to world peace

I think you could sell that statement more if you said biggest threat to regional peace, and I'd humor that along with you.

Iran has about a third of a GDP as Texas. They are a long ways off from being able to project out of their regional influence.

Germany had one of the lower GDPs per capita in Europe leading into WW2. It's a poor indicator of how big a threat military-wise a country is to the rest of the world.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Not exactly one of the best examples. After 1933 the German economy was growing almost 10% every year and most of that was due to military production. Modern Iran is hardly comparable.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
If the US populace actually buys in to this we deserve what we get. The US has used the "Our ships were attacked so we need to invade," line at least once every decade for the past 70 years.

Thats exactly how Nam started with the false flag with the USS Maddox in the Gulf of Tonkin . How'd that work out?

How soon we forget...

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Not exactly one of the best examples. After 1933 the German economy was growing almost 10% every year and most of that was due to military production. Modern Iran is hardly comparable.

They had a considerably higher real growth rate than the US in the last 2 years recorded (2016 and 2017).
www.indexmundi.com...
GDP - real growth rate: 3.5% (2017 est.)
12.5% (2016 est.)
-1.6% (2015 est.)

www.indexmundi.com...
GDP - real growth rate: 2.2% (2017 est.)
1.5% (2016 est.)
2.9% (2015 est.)

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Iran at this moment in time is probably the biggest threat to world peace

I think you could sell that statement more if you said biggest threat to regional peace, and I'd humor that along with you.

Iran has about a third of a GDP as Texas. They are a long ways off from being able to project out of their regional influence.

Germany had one of the lower GDPs per capita in Europe leading into WW2. It's a poor indicator of how big a threat military-wise a country is to the rest of the world.

Do you think Iran intends to project past their region?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
If the US populace actually buys in to this we deserve what we get. The US has used the "Our ships were attacked so we need to invade," line at least once every decade for the past 70 years.

Didn't you see the grainy pictures that looked like they were from WWII era?

Assuming the allegations were correct, does them removing a mine well above the water level not prove to you that they were in fact behind it?

Yea, this one stinks to high heaven. And I'm not the type to totally discount Iran carrying it out, they definitely have the capacity to... But does it seem like the most sensible conclusion?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Iran at this moment in time is probably the biggest threat to world peace

I think you could sell that statement more if you said biggest threat to regional peace, and I'd humor that along with you.

Iran has about a third of a GDP as Texas. They are a long ways off from being able to project out of their regional influence.

Germany had one of the lower GDPs per capita in Europe leading into WW2. It's a poor indicator of how big a threat military-wise a country is to the rest of the world.

Do you think Iran intends to project past their region?

I don't think any country that is a serious threat to spark a world war initially intends to project past their region. It all starts with invading neighboring countries. That said, everyone who is demonstrating a "Oh no, poor Iran is getting blamed without evidence" attitude here seems to totally ignore the simple fact that Iranian leadership has openly threatened exactly what happened here for years. If the guy down the street tells you day after day "I'm going to kill your dog" and one day you come home and find your dog dead mutilated on your front lawn, who is the first suspect in your mind and who will you instantly accuse?