NYC Helicopter Crash: Details Not Adding Up

Hey everyone,

I wanted to make a post about this here as my city's been having some interesting mishaps. This "helicopter crash" was in my line of sight all day long from my office building, and I have a few thoughts about that which I'd like to share with you.

If you've read my posts before, you know that I'm not a stranger to NYC happenings. I'm just going to get right down to it and be as succinct as possible:

We've had a streak of nothing but sunshine and warm weather for the past week until the day of this incident, which didn't strike me as anything odd at first. The moment I got into Midtown that day, you really couldn't see any skyscrapers past about 40-50 floors up because of the dense fog. In fact, it was so dense that from ground level you could only see faint black smoke coming from the rooftop. Something about this just seems way too convenient for me. Here's where my mind is going with this:

- All of the news stories coming out about this incident state that the man has been killed. I get it, this might seem like a moot point, but i don't take anything the MSM does anymore at face value. Why "killed" instead of "died in a helicopter crash?"

- The man was either FDNY or an FDNY volunteer, who resided in Clinton Corners, NY. Funny thing about Clinton Corners, NY?

In 1788 the Dutchess County Legislature reorganized the precincts into towns; Clinton was formed from parts of Charlotte and Rhinebeck precincts, and named in commemoration of the service of Governor George Clinton. In 1821 the current boundaries were set when the towns of Pleasant Valley and Hyde Park were created out of the larger Clinton town.

However, Governor George Clinton, considered to be one of the founding fathers, doesn't have any obvious relation to the Clinton family we think about today. I just found it really funny that this comes up the moment you start looking into who he was.

- He's apparently had his pilot license since 2004, wasn't scheduled to fly yesterday, and only stayed airborne for 11 minutes before making a "hard landing." I have a hard time following the logic of what we're told based on these details. Has a flight plan or any video of the actual crash been released that I don't know about? From what I've seen, there is no apparent footage of the helicopter crashing into the building.

- This incident is coming directly on the heels of 2 NYPD Policemen, one deputy chief and one homicide detective, allegedly committing suicide over the past 4-5 days:

Two Veteran Police Officers Died By Suicide In 24 Hours

i don't know of a way to say this without coming off like an idiot, so i'm just going to bluntly state what i'm thinking:

- When the NYPD obtained Imran Awan's laptop, Debbie Wasserman Schultz started acting like the godfather:



Imran Awan later plead guilty in court to falsifying a bank loan, upon which he had to serve no jail time, and was cleared on basically anything else he was accused of as part of his plea deal. Interesting excerpt from the article link below:

Awan and his associates were assigned to work for individual lawmakers, but they shared job duties and log-in information for multiple servers, a practice that is prohibited under House rules. Gowen said that and other security concerns that led to the loss of Awan’s access to the House network illustrated a culture of “disorganization” in Congress rather than espionage.

The U.S. Capitol Police said that although the investigation found nothing to substantiate illegal computer access, it did uncover “violation of House IT internal controls” that would be referred to House officials for “administrative action.”

Awan Reaches Plea Deal

- When the NYPD apparently obtained Weiner's laptop back in November '16, this still-unverified quote from an unnamed NYPD chief turned some heads:

“What’s in the emails is staggering and as a father, it turned my stomach,” the NYPD Chief said. “There is not going to be any Houdini-like escape from what we found. We have copies of everything. We will ship them to Wikileaks or I will personally hold my own press conference if it comes to that.”

No major news outlet has ran this story as far as I'm aware, nor has it been proven to be a fake story. For all we know, this internal battle is still alive and well.

- If you're above the law with abundant resources, and you know you're above the law with abundant resources, how hard would it be to kill someone on a rooftop during an oddly intense foggy day, and make it look like the guy went completely aloof, deciding to fly a helicopter for 11 minutes before realizing it was a bad idea? I understand what this implies, and I'm not committed to it, but this very much bothers me.

- Considering the above, if you are above the law with abundant resources, how hard would it be to "suicide" 2 NYPD Police in the midst of an obvious rift between the NYPD and the Feds over leaked info?

I could be wrong about all of this, but i felt compelled to express this and get your thoughts on the current state of affairs here. Does this all seem coincidental to you?

I took a nap before noon and a helicopter crashed because of it. What else do you need to know?

a reply to: FlukeSkywalker

***hillaryclintonchuckle.mp3 intensifies***

I've heard that he had an emergency but then who would pick the skyscraper without a helipad vs the river?
Maybe the poor guy was hoping for a softer landing and saving his machine. Helicopters with engine problems don't fall from the sky like rocks do.

a reply to: facedye

The Wiener laptop supposedly had a video as well.

At work and on my phone, but others from that precinct that had the laptop have died as well.

Going from memory so sorry, but one female cop that saw the video afterwards volunteered for a demotion, volunteered for 6 months of counseling and became a beat cop again.

She was later, in the words of the newspaper articles on it, assassinated.

Bullet to the head.

Interestingly enough, Trump when he went to a tribute to the police and thier fallen chose her family out of the blue to come with him and be on stage with him.

There is a copy if the video online... not going to post it here.

But yea, there is more to the Wiener laptop then we know about.

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: facedye

The Wiener laptop supposedly had a video as well.

At work and on my phone, but others from that precinct that had the laptop have died as well.

Going from memory so sorry, but one female cop that saw the video afterwards volunteered for a demotion, volunteered for 6 months of counseling and became a beat cop again.

She was later, in the words of the newspaper articles on it, assassinated.

Bullet to the head.

Interestingly enough, Trump when he went to a tribute to the police and thier fallen chose her family out of the blue to come with him and be on stage with him.

There is a copy if the video online... not going to post it here.

But yea, there is more to the Wiener laptop then we know about.

Which video, the one on the laptop that she was supposedly killed over?

a reply to: MisterSpock

The video that some police said they saw then nobody claimed to have seen it but everyone who first claimed to have seen it is now dead.

Did you ever notice the strange amount of people who suicide in national parks and national forests?

Did you know that the laws are different there?

Did you know the CIA knows this and is a preferred spot for lethal intervention?

I'ma shut up now... LOL

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: MisterSpock

The video that some police said they saw then nobody claimed to have seen it but everyone who first claimed to have seen it is now dead.

Did you ever notice the strange amount of people who suicide in national parks and national forests?

Did you know that the laws are different there?

Did you know the CIA knows this and is a preferred spot for lethal intervention?

I'ma shut up now... LOL

If the video is available online, I'm surprised it doesn't pop up or get discussed more. What exactly was on it?

Weiner's weiner. It has the mark of death on it. All who see it.. die. The CIA knows who's seen it because of secret technology in the video. It tells them who's seen it, then.. they lose their careers, are victims of gang stalking, then get suicided by the CIA.

Clinton is involved because someone was from a county called Clinton.

Scary #. The people who view it online end up dead too.

originally posted by: r0xor
Weiner's weiner. It has the mark of death on it. All who see it.. die. The CIA knows who's seen it because of secret technology in the video. It tells them who's seen it, then.. they lose their careers, are victims of gang stalking, then get suicided by the CIA.

Clinton is involved because someone was from a county called Clinton.

Scary #. The people who view it online end up dead too.

You mean just watching the video online can cause your brain to instantly burst and you die on the spot?????

Sounds like your run of the mill buzzfeed video.

a reply to: MisterSpock

Lol, no. Your ip address is recorded and you're traced, then stalked by the CIA until they have an opportunity for you to die. The office that the laptop was in was being monitored by other means. Those who saw it there were identified visually.

The video is Weiner exposing himself for an underage girl that he sent to her. She wanted to see it and liked it, but she was a victim of his predatory pedophilia psychological techniques.

Clinton is involved because Weiner's wife, Huma Abedin, was Clinton's top adviser and would've been Secretary of State. Weiner shamed her family which is Saudi and connected to the Saudi Intelligence.

You know, the people that injected Jamal Kashoggi with a sedative and dismembered him with hand tools while he was still alive, then smuggled his parts out of the embassy in Turkey in suitcases and bags.

The CIA knew about that as it was happening too. The CIA and Saudi Intelligence are very close, and the CIA/FBI are a tool of the Democrats which circles back to Clinton. That's why the Mueller investigation against Trump took place.

a reply to: Lumenari

does anybody know where that damn thing is nowadays, or who has it in custody? I swear this story literally disappeared right after this supposed NYPD chief was about to make a big stink about it.

also, can you please link me to that newspaper article in private? I haven't heard of that incident before, that's really curious. i'd much appreciate it!

a reply to: r0xor

Clinton is involved because someone was from a county called Clinton.

lol i'm not sure how to respond to this. did you think that's what I believe? I very obviously stated I just found it funny that that's what came up the moment I started looking into this pilot. what about the rest of my post?

a reply to: facedye

Just speculating, but it's also possible that the pilot landed and faked his own death to escape something or someone. He/they could've just blown up the heli after he landed. If it's true he had ties to the Clintons or Epstein, maybe he wanted to disappear but not die.

originally posted by: facedye
a reply to: r0xor

Clinton is involved because someone was from a county called Clinton.

lol i'm not sure how to respond to this. did you think that's what I believe? I very obviously stated I just found it funny that that's what came up the moment I started looking into this pilot. what about the rest of my post?

The best way to respond is not to respond at all because most of what I write is satire, sarcasm and comedy with edgy subjects. Deny Ignorance they used to say and I'm about that life. That's what the regulars have learned to do. They adapted true to Darwin's theories on the fittest of the species.

As for the OT, I don't think the CIA or anyone else killed these suicided officers and I don't think the CIA smuggles murder victims into national parks to commit suicide because they saw a nasty video on a pedophiles laptop. This is where conspiracy fantasy enters reality because its fun to think and write about. I think its fun to joke about and poke fun at the conspirators and we all got some fun out of it.

Unless you think seeing a video on Weiner's laptop then getting suicided by the feds under the direction of the shadow liberal government that still holds the power from previous administrations is fun.

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: facedye

Just speculating, but it's also possible that the pilot landed and faked his own death to escape something or someone. He/they could've just blown up the heli after he landed. If it's true he had ties to the Clintons or Epstein, maybe he wanted to disappear but not die.

It could've also been a test flight for breaking Guzman out of prison if they allow him a few minutes of recreation per week on top of a barbed wire, guarded prison rooftop. That was the argument for denying his request in court recently after his lawyer gained a hearing to air his grievances. He's an escape master afterall.

Needless to say, one does not simply take a helicopter out for a flight alone over skyscraper rooftops and accidently crash on one killing themselves. Unless they chose it for a suicide which is highly unlikely because death isn't certain. One would do much better to crash from more altitude at a faster speed.

The biggest question is why was he flying where he was and alone.

Guys...guys!! C'mon!!

The pilot was a storied firefighter (and even a Chief if I'm not mistaken) for a volunteer FD. He was a 54 year old "white" male.

If you look at the video, it's fairly obvious he's having some fairly serious flight control issues...and he keeps the helo over water while having them! It appears he thought he had it stabilized enough to land (on land)...and then lost control again. After that, he probably just tried to pick a place to crash.

I've seen some pretty deep conspiracy theories here on ATS before, but I don't think this is one of them.

And seriously, WTF does ANY of this have to do with Debbie Waserman Slut and Weiner man and/or pizza?????

(it was like this sudden psychic jump to Shultz and Weiner...did I miss something???)

Geezus!!

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

what video?

a reply to: facedye

There's TONS of video out there of the helicopter before the crash! Just look on any MSM website. There was a gal on Twitter who took pictures of it nosediving over the water.