Aileen Wuornos OR Warned us ?

a reply to: opethPA

Did you choose to have no sympathy or do you feel you have no choice in the matter?

It seems that you find it near on impossible to understand that anyone could have any empathy or compassion for a person that kills.

So I am guessing that you feel you have no choice...... you cannot feel any compassion for anyone that has killed?

I do not 'want' to feel compassion..... I just do! There is no choice as far as I can tell.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: opethPA

Did you choose to have no sympathy or do you feel you have no choice in the matter?

It seems that you find it near on impossible to understand that anyone could have any empathy or compassion for a person that kills.

So I am guessing that you feel you have no choice...... you cannot feel any compassion for anyone that has killed?

I do not 'want' to feel compassion..... I just do! There is no choice as far as I can tell.

We just arent going to agree and neither approach is right or wrong , just different.

You feel some sympathy for her and I don't.

a reply to: opethPA

My point is.....
Is there really any choice?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: opethPA

My point is.....
Is there really any choice?

There is absolutely choice.

She chose to become a serial killer
I chose to have no sympathy for her because of that.
You are choose to have sympathy for her.

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: opethPA

My point is.....
Is there really any choice?

There is absolutely choice.

She chose to become a serial.
I chose to have no sympathy for her because of that.
You are choose to have sympathy for her.

I'm approaching this as a package deal. There were aggravating and mitigating circumstances.

That she continued to murder is certainly an issue, but the psychology behind her actions is important to me as a human being and a woman.

That I am a woman makes a difference in how I view her case. Judge me for it in a negative light if you want. I, however, am comfortable with my perception of the whole.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: opethPA

My point is.....
Is there really any choice?

There is absolutely choice.

She chose to become a serial.
I chose to have no sympathy for her because of that.
You are choose to have sympathy for her.

I'm approaching this as a package deal. There were aggravating and mitigating circumstances.

That she continued to murder is certainly an issue, but the psychology behind her actions is important to me as a human being and a woman.

That I am a woman makes a difference in how I view her case. Judge me for it in a negative light if you want. I, however, am comfortable with my perception of the whole.

As I have said a few times on this thread..

I have no sympathy for her and it wouldn't matter if she was a man or not. That just doesn't play into the equation for me.

You have sympathy for her for the reasons you listed.

Neither is right, neither is wrong they are just different sides of the same terrible picture.

a reply to: opethPA

Are you a woman?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: opethPA

Are you a woman?

Nope and that makes me no more or less qualified to think what I do on this topic.

Some people feel bad for the serial killer

Some people don't feel bad for the serial killer.

Most importantly everyone should feel the worst for the people she killed.

a reply to: opethPA

The only reason I ask is because Creep Thumper mentioned that they are a woman (not Aileen) but I think you missed it.


And as I stated in my first post on this thread...... I know that not everyone feels compassion.

a reply to: AQ6666

Her video evolved into a Rant... and her rant/scolding about the System I can't disagree about

and then the 2019 asteroid/meteor that she hoped would rain Terror & Destruction upon the Earth and
kill multitudes in the process... I think she rationalized the future space rock destruction as 'Payback' for her
rotten lifetime and legalized murder-by-government

If she ever prayed for anything---- It was probably for that 2019 meteor/asteroid strike to kill millions and destroy whole Cities, in memory of her

a reply to: AQ6666

Interesting... I even went to the entire interview to make sure the video in the OP wasn't doctored. It's not.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: opethPA

The only reason I ask is because Creep Thumper mentioned that they are a woman (not Aileen) but I think you missed it.


And as I stated in my first post on this thread...... I know that not everyone feels compassion.

A great example of someone not feeling compassion would be the serial killer being defended.

If justifying or scapegoating her actions is an example of compassion you are right, I don't have that.

However the people, known and unknown, that I have shown compassion and empathy towards would disagree with your implied statement that I feel none.

Regardless, some people want to justify her and some don't. That is the way the world works.

originally posted by: MerkabaTribeEntity
a reply to: AQ6666

I know she did some bad things in her time, but I've always felt terrible for her.

I hope she has finally found peace, no one should have to endure the life that that poor woman did.

As to the OP topic, very interesting, s&f

I don't feel bad for her. No offense, but that's just the nanny state taking control and talking. She was abused at a young age and that part sucks, but she was old enough to know better. These are the kinds of people mental asylums were made for. That's not to take away from her prediction though, crazy people aren't crazy in every aspect.

a reply to: opethPA

Stop it. I love doom porn and you're ruining it.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

While you're at it, research how of those who said they were abused, also say they're innocent.

a reply to: Creep Thumper

What? What does being a woman change? I'm a man and feel no compassion for men who were abused and grew up to be killers. I feel compassion for their childhood, but no longer for them.

a reply to: LSU2018
I think studies have found that woman tend to be more compassionate than men and have more empathy than men.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Creep Thumper

What? What does being a woman change? I'm a man and feel no compassion for men who were abused and grew up to be killers. I feel compassion for their childhood, but no longer for them.

I'm sorry you're so clueless. My condolences.

This woman was badly abused. One abused woman to another, it's called empathy.

Are you happy I've outed myself now?

a reply to: Creep Thumper

No, I'm not happy you outed yourself, but I think it's safe to say that you didn't let your abuse control your life and go on a killing spree because of it. This woman had something deeper than the effects of abuse going on. The abuse embedded the demons further into her soul. See below:

On May 27, 1974, at age 18, Wuornos was arrested in Jefferson County, Colorado, for driving under the influence (DUI), disorderly conduct, and firing a .22-caliber pistol from a moving vehicle. She was later charged with failure to appear.

In 1976, Wuornos hitchhiked to Florida, where she met 69-year-old yacht club President Lewis Gratz Fell. They married quickly, and the announcement of their nuptials was printed in the local newspaper's society pages. However, Wuornos continually involved herself in confrontations at their local bar and went to jail briefly for assault. She also hit Fell with his own cane, leading him to gain a restraining order against her within weeks of the marriage. She returned to Michigan where, on July 14, 1976, she was arrested in Antrim County and charged with assault and disturbing the peace for throwing a cue ball at a bartender's head. On July 17, her brother Keith died of esophageal cancer and Wuornos received $10,000 from his life insurance. Wuornos and Fell annulled their marriage on July 21 after only nine weeks. In August 1976, Wuornos was given a $105 fine for drunk driving. She used the money inherited from her brother to pay the fine and spent the rest within two months buying luxuries including a new car, which she wrecked shortly afterwards.

On May 20, 1981, Wuornos was arrested in Edgewater, Florida, for the armed robbery of a convenience store, where she stole $35 and two packs of cigarettes. She was sentenced to prison on May 4, 1982, and released on June 30, 1983. On May 1, 1984, Wuornos was arrested for attempting to pass forged checks at a bank in Key West. On November 30, 1985, she was named as a suspect in the theft of a revolver and ammunition in Pasco County. On January 4, 1986, Wuornos was arrested in Miami and charged with car theft, resisting arrest, and obstruction of justice for providing identification bearing her aunt's name. Miami police officers found a .38-caliber revolver and a box of ammunition in the stolen car. On June 2, 1986, Volusia County deputy sheriffs detained Wuornos for questioning after a male companion accused her of pulling a gun in his car and demanding $200. Wuornos was found to be carrying spare ammunition, and police discovered a .22 pistol under the passenger seat she had occupied.

Around this time, Wuornos met Tyria Moore, a hotel maid, at a Daytona Beach gay bar. They moved in together, and Wuornos supported them with her earnings as a prostitute. On July 4, 1987, Daytona Beach police detained Wuornos and Moore at a bar for questioning regarding an incident in which they were accused of assault and battery with a beer bottle. On March 12, 1988, Wuornos accused a Daytona Beach bus driver of assault. She claimed that he pushed her off the bus following a confrontation. Moore was listed as a witness to the incident. Up until her execution, Wuornos claimed to still be in love with Moore.

She killed:
Richard Mallory
David Spears
Charles Carskaddon
Peter Siems (Body still hasn't been found)
Troy Burress
Charles Humphreys
Walter Antonio

Walter's body is the only body that was missing clothes. That tells me the rest hadn't even taken their clothes off, they were killed just to be killed. She was sick. Much sicker than a girl who had been abused as a child and found the will to fight the memories off.

a reply to: LSU2018

I know all about her. I'm not going to out the profession I retired from.

Let's just say I probably know a lot more than most people about the psychology, criminal and otherwise, involved here.