The Need For God is Hot-Wired

Many of us believe in God.

Many of us don't.

There are a lot of us aren't there. Yep. Everywhere. We all go through are own experiences, live our own lives...right?

Why don't you believe in God?

Have observed that many here rejecting even their very upbringing, have come to believe God exists.

Sometimes it is a logical thinking mind who hears just one simple explanation of things that shatters their reality. Others it takes years of study and then of practice in scientific fields to wonder at the awe that we are being shown.

Life is not a joke.

What makes us live is not a joke.

What we see when we wake up every morning is not a joke.

The suffering people go through, that I have gone through, that I go through is not a joke.

Humans cannot and will never fix it. It is beyond our ability.

Why would any human want to have power over another?


To end it I will leave this:

Matthew 5:3:
“Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them."

Inspirational, but do you mean hard-wired or hot-wired?

a reply to: Jeri0

Here is my opinion on the supernatural....

A) any proof of anything supernatural (prayer, spel, ghost, aliens, Bigfoot, exc)... and I do mean proof of ANYTHING supernatural , would make the owner of that property/spell/prayer/exc. insanely wealthy..

A legit scientifically verifiable haunted house , prayer, spell , exc would instantly be worth BILLIONS..


So why isn’t every corporation and hedge fund manager on planet earth investing billions into haunted houses??

B) with basically every human being in history putting untold hours into seeking some form of the supernatural, and what do they have to point to as evidence???

Testimonials.. not one single instance of a repeatable , verifiable spell/prayer/exc that has ANY effect on reality.

a reply to: Jeri0

for me...this "need" for God you speak of...is simply fear. Fear of nothingness. Fear that human life is no more special then that of an ant. It is an ego thing.

a reply to: Jeri0

If you look at society over all and it’s advancement, monotheistic religions have only been a bad thing, which your OP points out pretty well..


With the Greek and Roman pagan religions the gods were fallible, a regular mortal could even beat them.. that led to the romans/Greeks assuming they were the masters of their own destinies. Rather than just players in a gods plan.

And technological advancements skyrocket..





Monotheism takes over where god is infallible and we are irrelevant because “it is all gods plan “ no matter what you do..


And advancement relatively stops until after secular organizations began to take over western society.

Two things to add. I feel that humans have "invented God" for two reasons.

1. To give some sort of higher meaning to life then just born, eat, drink, have children, die.
2. To scare people into submission.

a reply to: Jeri0

The Need For God is Hot-Wired

Been posted many times before, use ATS search function

The suffering people go through, that I have gone through, that I go through is not a joke.

If a 'god' helps you thats great.

To end it I will leave this: Matthew 5:3:
“Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them."

Ah - nothing like an exclusive club, us poor "unconscious of our spiritual need" will never be part of your club.

But whose to say my spiritual needs will be fulfilled by your particular god? ( and don't say the Bible says so -

Last I checked many gods to choose from, or dare I say no need for god.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

The idea of god was around before people thought like modern men and women so applying modern thought to it probably won’t find the answer.

I would leverage that the idea of spiritual understanding grew arbitrarily from men trying to make sense of a new world they had not yet explored and did not understand so they applied logic to things they saw as mystical as we now see as profane.

I don’t believe early man was as malicious as modern man.

originally posted by: fatkid
Inspirational, but do you mean hard-wired or hot-wired?

He got it right the first time. Hot-wired.

Their brains got jacked and now they think all god all the time.

a reply to: Jeri0

Life is not a joke.
What makes us live is not a joke.
What we see when we wake up every morning is not a joke.

Learn to laugh again.

Of course life is a joke

Defn: Joke

1. a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.

The punchline is heaven so why woudnt you laugh?

But you would rather quench peoples spiritual thirst through fear. Ain't gonna work. People have wised up.

a reply to: fatkid

I don’t believe early man was as malicious as modern man.

I disagree.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Their brains got jacked and now they think all god all the time.

I'd have a diffcult time doing that even if God started with the letter 'p' and ryhmed with 'corn'.

a reply to: Jeri0

It's not so much that they don't believe in god, rather it's that they refuse to.

After all usually when someone sees something terrible they usually scream oh my god or jesus christ subconsciously and inexplicably to them, i mean it even happens to some trying their very best to not take gods name in vain as instructed.

They refuse to because they don't understand what they cannot see, in other words they have no faith - a pre requisite to receiving salvation of course.

Now for the most part it's completely understandable when taking into account the religious establishments on offer and those establishments refusal to adhere to the basic guidelines of the ten commandments - ie commandment 1, but more importantly in relation to these religious establishments commandment 2- honor no graven image in thy name etc. I mean it's plain as day and yet just look at all their graven images, idolatry
Etc i could go on and on.

You can only do so much, the rest is well - unfortunate for them.

Matthew 5:3:
“Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them."

A fake bible quote, how appropriate for religion. Fake is hard-wired into it.

originally posted by: roadgravel

A fake bible quote, how appropriate for religion. Fake is hard-wired into it.

poor
πτωχοὶ (ptōchoi)
Strong's Greek 4434: Poor, destitute, spiritually poor, either in a good sense (humble devout persons) or bad.

I think he got closer to the true meaning Jesus was trying to convey by spelling out the definition rather than simply saying "poor".

a reply to: Jeri0

The purpose of religion is provide answers to the following four great existential questions:

1. Who am I?
2. Why am I here?
3. What does it all mean?
4. What is going to happen to me when I die?

In many ways, these questions are unanswerable questions. But most people are very uncomfortable with the not-knowing aspects of their participation in reality. So people invent religion to provide a context in which they can live a meaningful life. Meaningful is not a strong enough word. People invent a context in which they are participating in a "sacred" life.

The opposite to this invention is the idea of nihilism. With nihilism one rejects of religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless. The problem with nihilism is it is self-inconsistent. I have become the ultimate nihilist and choose to believe not only is life meaningless BUT it is also meaningless that it is meaningless. By being the ultimate nihilist I choose to believe life is meaningful. What difference does it ultimately make how you choose anyway since it's all meaningless. So I choose to be an anti-nihilist. I choose to believe in God not based on any reason. I choose to believe in God because I don't care what the nihilists think.

So what is God? God is just a word. The word God is different than every other word in our dictionary. God is a word that represents every possible thought and experience that has occurred or will ever occur. God is a container word that holds the meaning of every other possible word inside its glove. No other word in our dictionary is as big or complete than the word God.

So I think the interesting question is what could possibly be the greatest amount of information the word God could represent. Taking into account elements of modern physics this is what I've come up with. Assume our Big Bang is the result of a star collapsing to black hole in another previously existing space-time dimension. Assume the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is true. So given this larger view of time, then it is possible for every possible quantum state to be realized over this larger expanse of multi-dimensional time.

In one Universe you marry Susan. In another Universe you marry Jane. In one space-time dimension you are saint. And in another you are serial killer. Every possible possibility gets realized eventually. So every possible possibility realized over an uncountable amount of space-time Universe dimensions eventually creates a single whole at some higher dimension. God is the word that represents this greatest possible single collection of every possibility realized.

Once you accept this greatest possible definition of God then the next interesting question becomes does any of us have any control of what will be the next thought that comes into our minds.



"He's like a piece of meat that keeps on living."

a reply to: roadgravel

Apparently "poor" means "happy" in the mind of the OP author.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I agree with you. God must be a woman because no man could have created something so damn beautiful!

a reply to: cooperton

The point was

That is not what is considered an accepted quote of the chapter. If it is your interpretation then label it as such.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Fair enough