Citizens Disobey New Zealand Gun Ban, Only 530 of 300,000 People Turned Guns In

a reply to: projectvxn

No it will simply be a government goon squad paid with your tax dollars.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Well I suppose it's time new Zealand had a civil war. We would be more than happy to sell both sides more guns to accomplish the mission. Just give us the word, and you shall be receiving weapons shipments from Croatia, Cyprus, chech republic, Romania, etc...

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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: projectvxn

No it will simply be a government goon squad paid with your tax dollars.

The only government entity with enough manpower to do this is the military, and we would never comply with such an order. It would not be a lawful order and we have no duty to follow unlawful orders. Get informed.

a reply to: face23785

Oh I see, you think you speak for the military now, that's cute.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: face23785

Oh I see, you think you speak for the military now, that's cute.

Considering I spent 13 years in, I'm pretty confident I know how the majority of us feel about gun confiscation. And I know for sure it wouldn't be a lawful order and that we're not dutybound to follow unlawful orders. Thanks for playing.

ETA: FYI for the uninformed, the military doesn't swear an oath to the President or Congress, we swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution against foreign and domestic enemies. Anyone who tried to order us to disarm the population would become a domestic enemy. You'd get a civil war, and it wouldn't be pretty for the the gun-ban crowd. It would be a lot shorter than the last one too.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: projectvxn

No it will simply be a government goon squad paid with your tax dollars.

That's what the second amendment is for.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: projectvxn

No it will simply be a government goon squad paid with your tax dollars.

That's what the second amendment is for.

He has no idea he actually demonstrated why it's so important we keep our arms.

a reply to: face23785

I don't doubt your experience in the military, however let's use your logic for a second, I have spent 30 years living in Australia does that mean I know how all Australians think and would act?

a reply to: face23785

Considering I spent 13 years in, I'm pretty confident I know how the majority of us feel about gun confiscation.

I always get a kick out of leftists using the military as a political weapon.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: projectvxn

No it will simply be a government goon squad paid with your tax dollars.

That's what the second amendment is for.

Good luck fighting your own government, you're going to need it.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I got out of the Army in 2016.

I have yet to meet anyone in the US Army that would go on a confiscation campaign.

Maybe in in 50 years if we're complacent about our rights. But not today.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I, like most modern veterans, received an immersive education in insurgent tactics.

Stay in your lane.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: face23785

I don't doubt your experience in the military, however let's use your logic for a second, noIve spent 30 years living in Australia does that mean I know how all Australians think and would act?

Yeah because that's the same thing at all. Even comparing it to the US general population doesn't work because it's not a homogeneous culture. The military is a homogeneous culture. We all share certain values, with very few exceptions and those people tend to not last long in the service.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: projectvxn

No it will simply be a government goon squad paid with your tax dollars.

That's what the second amendment is for.

Good luck fighting your own government, you're going to need it.

Ya'll who think this really have not thought it out well. What would happen is the military would split, with the majority siding with the citizenry against the small portion that stayed loyal to what would then be an unconstitutional government. Civil war. With most of the military on the gun-rights side.

Hey kiwis ask the Venezuelans how well gun control worked out for them.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: projectvxn

No it will simply be a government goon squad paid with your tax dollars.

The only government entity with enough manpower to do this is the military, and we would never comply with such an order. It would not be a lawful order and we have no duty to follow unlawful orders. Get informed.

In a perfect world you would be 100% correct, however, there are always brown nosed idiots who will do what they are told... Case in point Hurricane Katrina Gun Confiscation..youtu.be...

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I got out of the Army in 2016.

I have yet to meet anyone in the US Army that would go on a confiscation campaign.

Maybe in in 50 years if we're complacent about our rights. But not today.

If there is a need the military can force you back in, is that right, I thought the military was like hotel California, you can check out anytime but you can never leave?

originally posted by: 727Sky

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: projectvxn

No it will simply be a government goon squad paid with your tax dollars.

The only government entity with enough manpower to do this is the military, and we would never comply with such an order. It would not be a lawful order and we have no duty to follow unlawful orders. Get informed.

In a perfect world you would be 100% correct, however, there are always brown nosed idiots who will do what they are told... Case in point Hurricane Katrina Gun Confiscation..youtu.be...

That's one city during a catastrophe. We're talking about a nationwide effort. The military would never comply. It's unlawful and unconstitutional. Trust me, we know how it feels to be disarmed. We're already not allowed to defend ourselves on base.

Ladies and gents, 500 people out of 300,000 is:

0.166666666667%

Pretty big number of pooosies if you ask me. I thought Kiwi's were tougher.