Miracles do Happen. The Story of John Smith.

I am aware that this story is from 2015. As a matter of fact, I wasn't even aware of this event until the movie "Breakthrough" came out. I am a sucker for movies like this one, based on real life events which prove there is more than just the material world and that happy endings, although rare, do happen.

This is the story of a Missouri teen, John Smith, who drowned after saving the life of another friend, and despite the fact that his brain did not get oxygen for almost 47 minutes, he recovered completely and had no brain function loss whatsoever.

What's miraculous about this case is that first responders and doctors tried to revive this teen for a long time, 42 minutes, and gave up on him. It was only after his mother entered the hospital room and began to pray aloud that he came back to life as all of a sudden the teen got a pulse. But not only that, he had no oxygen for almost 45 minutes yet he recovered all his brain activity. (they manually gave him oxygen for 12 minutes)

Meanwhile it is true that he was underwater in an icy lake for 15 minutes, there have been other cases in which people have drowned in icy waters, yet never recovered completely, or simply died.

Even Dr. Kent Sutterer, who is a specialist in drowned victims, stated that this case: "It's a bonafide miracle."

Feb. 5, 2015, 9:22 AM MST / Updated Feb. 5, 2015, 9:51 AM MST
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John and two friends were walking over ice-covered Lake St. Louise when the trio fell through. One of the teens managed to swim back to shore while another clung to ice. By the time paramedics arrived, John had been submerged for more than 15 minutes. Crews attempted CPR for 15 minutes before doctors at SSM St. Joseph Hospital West continued the procedure for another 27 minutes, KSDK reported. During that time, he showed no signs of life. But just then, John's mother, Joyce, entered the trauma room and started praying loudly, said Dr. Kent Sutterer. "Within a matter of a minute or two, his heart started again," the doctor told KSDK.
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www.nbcnews.com...

Very interesting. I’m curious to hear about what John experienced during that 57 minutes.

I didn’t see it mentioned in the article - did he have an NDE?

That’s an amazing story about the power of prayer and the power of a mother’s love. Prayers don’t always get answered, miracles don’t always result, which can be disheartening and confusing to those of us on this side of heaven. God must have plans for this young man!

a reply to: VegHead

If what was said in the movie is true, he said that he doesn't remember anything.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I don't get what the conspiracy is.

Is it that SSM Health Cardinal Glennon Children's Foundation is using the story to solicit money?
www.glennon.org...

a reply to: pthena

The fact that miracles do happen despite atheist claiming the contrary.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Okay.

Seems to be plenty of documentary evidence and witness statements.
I suppose some people may dispute it without contradictory evidence out of principle.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

nothing demonstrates how assanine the claims of miracles are - more sucinctly than - claims of miracles

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

nothing demonstrates how assanine the claims of miracles are - more sucinctly than - claims of miracles

Sounds like sour grapes to me. You never received a miracle, so they can't be real. It's a common self centered reaction.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Somebody must be lying then. It's physically not possible to be dead for 40 minutes under typical conditions and come back at all, let alone with no brain damage. The praying part makes me a little suspicious.

One example of prayer successfully treating a patient versus the hundreds of cases where it does exactly nothing. This is why it's a miracle, unexpected victory is correlated with unreasonable methods. Like dancing and weather.

originally posted by: hombero
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Somebody must be lying then. It's physically not possible to be dead for 40 minutes under typical conditions and come back at all, let alone with no brain damage. The praying part makes me a little suspicious.

Another "intelligent argument".

"But... but... I dont BELIEVE in miracles! That means someones lying! Oh, plus I dont believe in religion either so the praying makes me even More suspicious!"

DUHHHHH!!!!!!!!

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

After doing a bit of fact checking, I've decided there is a conspiracy.

Some people involved have been misrepresented in the book and in the movie.
These people may now, due to popular demand, be pressured into making statements supporting the official narrative.

Praying people should pray that those who should be left with their memories and beliefs intact aren't coerced into saying things that they don't want to say, or get fired from their jobs and run out of town.

a reply to: pthena

I never really expected to be living in the future but here I am! 

It's a miracle!

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

BTW, I had to change the 57 minutes without oxygen comment back to 47 minutes. He was dead for 57 minutes, but the first responders and doctors were manually giving him oxygen for 10 minutes until they gave up.

originally posted by: hombero
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Somebody must be lying then. It's physically not possible to be dead for 40 minutes under typical conditions and come back at all, let alone with no brain damage. The praying part makes me a little suspicious.

Why simply because you say so? Where is the evidence that "somebody is lying"? If there is such proof show it. Otherwise you are only making a claim based on your own belief.

a reply to: pthena

How about you show proof that "somebody is lying and people are being coerced" as you claim?

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: hombero
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Somebody must be lying then. It's physically not possible to be dead for 40 minutes under typical conditions and come back at all, let alone with no brain damage. The praying part makes me a little suspicious.

Another "intelligent argument".

"But... but... I dont BELIEVE in miracles! That means someones lying! Oh, plus I dont believe in religion either so the praying makes me even More suspicious!"

DUHHHHH!!!!!!!!

I know right?

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: pthena

How about you show proof that "somebody is lying and people are being coerced" as you claim?

Can I ask what your point is? You are trying to prove miracles are real? Is that all?